Egypt: from 2011 demonstrations to today (14 Viewers)

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,574
Find hearing/reading this faggots comments sickening:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/02/tony-blair-mubarak-courageous-force-for-good-egypt

Tony Blair describes Mubarak as 'immensely courageous and a force for good'

The former British prime minister praised Mubarak over his role in the negotiations and also warned against a rush to elections that could bring the Muslim Brotherhood to power

ony Blair has described Hosni Mubarak, the beleaguered Egyptian leader, as "immensely courageous and a force for good" and warned against a rush to elections that could bring the Muslim Brotherhood to power.

The former British prime minister, who is now an envoy to the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, praised Mubarak over his role in the negotiations and said the west was right to back him despite his authoritarian regime because he had maintained peace with Israel.

But that view is likely to anger many Egyptians who believe they have had to endure decades of dictatorship because the US put Israel's interests ahead of their freedom.

Speaking to Piers Morgan on CNN, Blair defended his backing for Mubarak.

"Where you stand on him depends on whether you've worked with him from the outside or on the inside. I've worked with him on the Middle East peace process between the Israelis and the Palestinians so this is somebody I'm constantly in contact with and working with and on that issue, I have to say, he's been immensely courageous and a force for good," he said. "Inside Egypt, and I have many Egyptian friends, it's clear that there's been a huge desire for change."

But asked if the west had not been an obstacle to change, Blair defended the policies of his and other governments.

"I don't think the west should be the slightest bit embarrassed about the fact that it's been working with Mubarak over the peace process but at the same time it's been urging change in Egypt," he said.

Blair argued that the region has unique problems which make political change different from the democratic revolutions in Eastern Europe. He said the principal issue is the presence of Islamist parties which he fears will use democracy to gain power and then undermine the freedoms people seek.

"It's perfectly natural for those of from the outside to want to support this movement for change at the same time as saying let's be careful about this and make sure that happens in this process of change is something that ends in free and fair elections and a democratic system of government and it doesn't get taken over or channelled in to a different direction that is at odds with what the people of Egypt want," he said.

Blair said that meant there should not be a rush to elections in Egypt.

"I don't think there's a majority for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. On the other hand, what you've got to watch is that they are extremely well organised and well funded whereas those people who are out on the street at the moment, many of them will be extremely well intentioned people, but they're not organised in political parties yet. So one of the issues in the transition is to give time for those political parties to get themselves properly organised," he said.

But Blair said he did not doubt that change is coming to Egypt.

"People want a different system of government. They're going to get it. The question is what emerges from that. In particular I think the key challenge for us is how do we help partner this process of change and help manage it in such a way that what comes out of it is open minded, fair, democratic government," he said.
 

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JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
75,181
So Blair says he has been good for the West and their politics but shit for the Egyptians, no surprise coming from Bush's pet dog. As he is the leader of Egypt you would think that Mubarak might consider the Egyptian people as a priority.
 

Naggar

Bianconero
Sep 4, 2007
3,494
What I read in the news and see on tv is completely different from where I live


so the streets are burned on tv, people are protesting, fighting, shooting and dying.. houses being robbed.. and all
but right here we're living normally like before Jan 25th except the streets are empty at night, but since "ba7ary" is the old part of Alexandria, the people are way too fantastic, no one dared to attack or steal or burn here, everything is safe, none of us even had to go down or protect anything, and when the army came, they talked to the store owners down here and left, apparently we're in a different country
so I didn't go away from my neighbourhood to be honest, and the demonestrations I took part in were here as well

glad ahmed and wahdan are fine, and many thanks to everyone else in this thread for the concern
 

Naggar

Bianconero
Sep 4, 2007
3,494
I don't know when will this nightmare end..
I'm very disgusted by the government, the police and the pig on top, what a shame

There will be another big demonestration on Friday to 'finally' take him off (hopefully) and I see another river of blood coming, I can't believe this is happening, all because of the selfish pigs in their positions
God have mercy on us

I'm also worried of what happens after, this won't be easy, many parties are waiting to jump on the chance of ruling the country, and they'd do anything to get there, which means more chaos
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
If the revolution works, will they change the name to "Islamic republic of Egypt" or will they keep it like it is?
 

Naggar

Bianconero
Sep 4, 2007
3,494
Way too early to think of the future, I understand USA and Israel fears of an Islamic country, beside Iran's hopes

but like I said I'm too worried of the future, people like me who aren't in a specific party or desire to rule, they just want safety, rights, democracy, jobs, good minimal wages and more 'basic' rights
now we don't care much who will bring that, but we will get it

at the same time, those parties are getting up on our backs to get to the ruling position, obviously politics is a dirty game
we fight and die, then one of Mubarak's people, Baradaey, Muslim brotherhood and all the other parties, will take it all
we just want Mubarak gone and our rights
 

Gamaro

The Arabian Knight
Aug 6, 2007
1,289
Way too early to think of the future, I understand USA and Israel fears of an Islamic country, beside Iran's hopes

but like I said I'm too worried of the future, people like me who aren't in a specific party or desire to rule, they just want safety, rights, democracy, jobs, good minimal wages and more 'basic' rights
now we don't care much who will bring that, but we will get it


at the same time, those parties are getting up on our backs to get to the ruling position, obviously politics is a dirty game
we fight and die, then one of Mubarak's people, Baradaey, Muslim brotherhood and all the other parties, will take it all
we just want Mubarak gone and our rights
:tup:
These are the most important things,whoever rules should bring to the people these things whether they will make it an Islamic state or a communist state,they shoud bring Justice and all those things you mentioned.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Way too early to think of the future, I understand USA and Israel fears of an Islamic country, beside Iran's hopes

but like I said I'm too worried of the future, people like me who aren't in a specific party or desire to rule, they just want safety, rights, democracy, jobs, good minimal wages and more 'basic' rights
now we don't care much who will bring that, but we will get it

at the same time, those parties are getting up on our backs to get to the ruling position, obviously politics is a dirty game
we fight and die, then one of Mubarak's people, Baradaey, Muslim brotherhood and all the other parties, will take it all
we just want Mubarak gone and our rights
I wish the best for your country or to any other one, Mubarak should definitely leave, and many other Arab leaders too, but to take these Arab countries forward, to a better life, they should keep the governments away from religious freaks. Taking off Mubarak, and putting in a religious freak in charge is a step back and ruining everything. The same goes for Tunisia. Just like it happened in Iran decades ago..
 

Gamaro

The Arabian Knight
Aug 6, 2007
1,289
Ikhwan Muslmeen ofcourse.
Muslim brotherhood are not leading it,in this revolution all kinds of people joined together Christians,Muslims,secular,communists and even those poor and simple people who doesn't know how to read and right.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Muslim brotherhood are not leading it,in this revolution all kinds of people joined together Christians,Muslims,secular,communists and even those poor and simple people who doesn't know how to read and right.
True, but you can deny that they can take this chance to rule Egypt, no?
 

Gamaro

The Arabian Knight
Aug 6, 2007
1,289
True, but you can deny that they can take this chance to rule Egypt, no?
Logically,even if they intend to do that,they won't do it.Simply because they know very well if people could force one of the worst and most powerful dictator in the world to step down they can easily revolt against anyone after him.

They only way they could rule the country is through elections,and if people choose them then no one can complain about it at that time.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Logically,even if they intend to do that,they won't do it.Simply because they know very well if people could force one of the worst and most powerful dictator in the world to step down they can easily revolt against anyone after him.

They only way they could rule the country is through elections,and if people choose them then no one can complain about it at that time.
Which is my and everyone's concern.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Naggar its nice to hear its peaceful where you are, glad to hear that really.

As for Bisco, Wahdan, Hist and Hazem, our thoughts and prayers are with you guys. I sincerely hope that this nightmare can end as fast as possible and all the outlaws and mercenaries responsible for this madness are brought to justice, most of all i wish that ras el shar Mubarak not only gets overthrown, but hopefully gets caught arrested and brought to justice himself, the fucking criminal. These are promising yet scary times at the same time, the era of tyrants in the Arab world is nearing an end. Again, i hope all you guys are safe and sound, and so are your families.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Naggar its nice to hear its peaceful where you are, glad to hear that really.

As for Bisco, Wahdan, Hist and Hazem, our thoughts and prayers are with you guys. I sincerely hope that this nightmare can end as fast as possible and all the outlaws and mercenaries responsible for this madness are brought to justice, most of all i wish that ras el shar Mubarak not only gets overthrown, but hopefully gets caught arrested and brought to justice himself, the fucking criminal. These are promising yet scary times at the same time, the era of tyrants in the Arab world is nearing an end. Again, i hope all you guys are safe and sound, and so are your families.
He shouldn't escape easily from this, he should pay for the money he stole the past decades, should be jailed until he dies.
 

Naggar

Bianconero
Sep 4, 2007
3,494
I just want this nightmare to end, I totally support the cause and I participated in it but enough blood at this point

I'll wait until Mubarak leaves and then we'll see.
 

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