Egypt: from 2011 demonstrations to today (23 Viewers)

[Turk_Bianconero]

That's what illiteracy does to people, keep them ignorant. And people wonder why the Middle-East stays the same.

Military dictatorship proudly presents. This is where their secularist oppressors took them.

 

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[Eddy]

I am surprised Egyptians even voted for the MB, does no one remember Sadat ? Him and Nasser were the only charismatic leaders of the last century in the Middle East.

 

[IrishZebra]

Military dictatorship proudly presents. This is where their secularist oppressors took them.

Afghanistan, true islamic state, worst education system in the world

 

[Eddy]

Afghanistan, true islamic state, worst education system in the world

Dude, he's just gona reply back that their is no Islamic state present in the world.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Afghanistan, true islamic state, worst education system in the world

Go read about education's importance in Islam before making any assumptions. Start from the first verse which is ''Read''.

 

[Eddy]

Go read about education's importance in Islam before making any assumptions. Start from the first verse which is ''Read''.

Then it's not the West's fault, it's the "Islamists" fault or their society's fault for not following their religion's importance of education. It is quite disturbing to what they do to girls who just want to go to a decent school over there. Have you seen Afghanistan in the 50's ? It was quite the opposite of today.

 

[IrishZebra]

Dude, he's just gona reply back that their is no Islamic state present in the world.

I know.

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Then it's not the West's fault, it's the "Islamists" fault or their society's fault for not following their religion's importance of education. It is quite disturbing to what they do to girls who just want to go to a decent school over there.

Sexually repressed sober killjoys.

Rape you soon as stone you...

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Because Afghanistan is such a good example for Islamic states. Pretend like there was no never-ending battle going on there and they had so much time to establish a proper country. How can they radicalize so much while everything is going so well!? Mind blowing, really.

 

[IrishZebra]

It's exactly what you will get with an Islamist government.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

It's exactly what you will get with an Islamist government.

How do you judge? If you think it's Islamists fault the shit is going on, you're either a laicist bigot or unable to analyze the history and current situation of this geography. How can they held responsible while its' laicists, nationalists, socialists, religious minorities ruling them? These sects have been appointed as jailors. It was their task to keep these nations in turmoil, keep people illeterated. They were succesfull so far.

 

[Eddy]

Turk, you are incredibly lucky you live in a secular society.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Turk, you are incredibly lucky you live in a secular society.

Explain.

 

[Eddy]

Explain.

Religion corrupts policies. Name me 1 Islamic state that was successful the last 500 years. Democratic or dictatorship, it doesn't matter.

Which Islamic state in the last 500 years is an ideal role-model for a future country to put it's practices into ?

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Religion corrupts policies.

Only if your criteria for religion is changed catholic belief and corrupted church.

 

[Eddy]

Only if your criteria for religion is changed catholic belief and corrupted church.

Ignorance is bliss. My religion is better than yours, yours is better than mine.


EDIT: Sorry, I thought you were asking a good question for once, guess not.

 

[IrishZebra]

How do you judge? If you think it's Islamists fault the shit is going on, you're either a laicist bigot or unable to analyze the history and current situation of this geography. How can they held responsible while its' laicists, nationalists, socialists, religious minorities ruling them? These sects have been appointed as jailors. It was their task to keep these nations in turmoil, keep people illeterated. They were succesfull so far.

You basically just said YOUR side is oppressed by everybody else in history. I mean come on man, all I've done is study politics for half a decade, the wars, the systems, the 'great men' and what I can tell you is that the blinkered approach you are propagating is reminiscent of Slobodan Milosevic. You don't want a glorious islamic state, you want your group to get power and to settle scores with those who 'opressed' you.

Have you ever even lived amongst other people? actually? I mean don't go to germany to be an engineer because I don't want you flying into a skyscraper but maybe you could learn a lot if you weren't so ignorant.

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Only if your criteria for religion is changed catholic belief and corrupted church.

You jelly of the biggest religion in the world ?

 

[Eddy]

I think Turk just wants to conquer everyone with his imaginary caliphate idea. Should he fall in battle, all the people of his kingdom shall be there to mourn him, and I mean, everybody.

Ignorance is bliss. I'm done with this thread.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

You basically just said YOUR side is oppressed by everybody else in history. I mean come on man, all I've done is study politics for half a decade, the wars, the systems, the 'great men' and what I can tell you is that the blinkered approach you are propagating is reminiscent of Slobodan Milosevic. You don't want a glorious islamic state, you want your group to get power and to settle scores with those who 'opressed' you.

You can study as much you want but you will never truly understand what was/is going on here. I don't have a group other than Muslims around the world, i also did not suffer directly because of the oppressors. I react for the people i never met, is this something impossible for you to understand?

I think Turk just wants to conquer everyone with his imaginary caliphate idea. Should he fall in battle, all the people of his kingdom shall be there to mourn him, and I mean, everybody.

Ignorance is bliss. I'm done with this thread.

Assumptions and weak joke attempts. Nothing else.

 

[IrishZebra]

You can study as much you want but you will never truly understand what was/is going on here. I don't have a group other than Muslims around the world, i also did not suffer directly because of the oppressors. I react for the people i never met, is this something impossible for you to understand?

Assumptions and weak joke attempts. Nothing else.

I feel sorry for you, and everybody that has to deal with your blinkered Fascism.

 

[Eddy]

Assumptions and weak joke attempts. Nothing else.

Ignorance

— n
lack of knowledge, information, or education; the state of being ignorant including his own ideas to a particular subject or fact