Berardi can wait a year, we can organise some buy back dealio with Sassuolo. Let them use Coman next season to sweeten the deal.
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if we arent bringing back Berardi (which if we sign Dybala and another forward like Cavani/Falcao/whoever doesent seem to be the case) then what would we do. can we afford all the targets we want this summer if we spend 15M on a player we arent using next season? would it be better to buy and loan him out, or sell his half with a buyback option? would we agree to a 30M buyback (15M half > 30M full) and would Sassuolo accept a lower buyback like 20-25M after they spend 15M on his half? curious to see what will Marotta do
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how do you know that for sure? our revenue is higher each year (so is our spending power), we cleared our debt (or we are close to, cant remember clearly), and we spent almost nothing last 2 mercatos. accoring to the names we are linked with (Dybala, Cavani, Witsel, Allan) we could have much more to spend than we are used to. but on the other hand could also be total bullshit by media so better not expecting too much either
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how do you know that for sure? our revenue is higher each year (so is our spending power), we cleared our debt (or we are close to, cant remember clearly), and we spent almost nothing last 2 mercatos. accoring to the names we are linked with (Dybala, Cavani, Witsel, Allan) we could have much more to spend than we are used to. but on the other hand could also be total bullshit by media so better not expecting too much either
Whats so strange? It seems he is not in our sporting plans.
Im not arguing against his quality. Of course i rate him a lot. But all is pointing that the board will go for a classic 10 (dybala) to continue our 4312 instead of having to move a lot of players and go for a 433 where berardi can fit. Berardi is not a 10 like Tevez who can put the workload, he is not a fantasista like dybala seems to be, and it seems he is not good enought to warrant a formation change to 433 and build the team around him. On top of that he is a card magnet.
Im all for bringing him back since he will be cheap in comparison with the likes of dyabala ,is italian and seems to have a good career in front of him given his numbers... but for the reasons mentioned.. i fear we will get rid of him. Sounds risky and borderline stupid...but it all depends on what marotta and allegri have in mind.
lets hope so. We need a real goalscorer.
Something on those lines. As long as Tevez is here.. i feel Berardi will not find space in our team, because we will not play 433 and put tevez on the wings. Also, i find tevez is not a classical CF ...and one of him or Morata would have to go to the wings to fit Berardi. Berardi as the main SS?=...just no.
Im not arguing against his quality. Of course i rate him a lot. But all is pointing that the board will go for a classic 10 (dybala) to continue our 4312 instead of having to move a lot of players and go for a 433 where berardi can fit. Berardi is not a 10 like Tevez who can put the workload, he is not a fantasista like dybala seems to be, and it seems he is not good enought to warrant a formation change to 433 and build the team around him. On top of that he is a card magnet.
Im all for bringing him back since he will be cheap in comparison with the likes of dyabala ,is italian and seems to have a good career in front of him given his numbers... but for the reasons mentioned.. i fear we will get rid of him. Sounds risky and borderline stupid...but it all depends on what marotta and allegri have in mind.
Stop fighting it, it will only hurt more when it happens.
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Something on those lines. As long as Tevez is here.. i feel Berardi will not find space in our team, because we will not play 433 and put tevez on the wings. Also, i find tevez is not a classical CF ...and one of him or Morata would have to go to the wings to fit Berardi. Berardi as the main SS?=...just no.
I'm not advocating Berardi here next year... but Tevez is gone, for sure the year after. So 1 more season with Tevez. Than we have Morata potentially leaving for Madrid that same summer. If that happens we'll have 30 mil to replace him, so that wouldn't be the end of the world, even if keeping him would be ideal.
Berardi in my opinion should be bought, as it's only 15 mil. Total outlay on the player will be pretty low. His performance so far as U20 in Serie A is astonishing and it would be ridiculous not to buy him. And yes, I do rate the fact he is Italian, as this would be massive for Juve to have the next great Italian attacking talent. There hasn't been one since Del Piero and Totti (Giuseppe Rossi was the closest). That's a long time.
He should be loaned out next year and allowed to develop further. Any number of mid-table clubs would love to have him.
From watching him play these last two years, I think he could easily play SS, and be superb at it. His creativity is massively underrated, as is his passing. Look at his assist numbers. 6 last year, 8 already this year. That's excellent. I think he'd be versatile across the entire front-line aside from a traditional CF type. Good finishing, good passing, decent creativity. He'd borderline be able to play a no 10 role in the hole behind 2 strikers. It wouldn't be ideal of course. I'd love to see him here. Even if just as a rotational option, allowing us more tactical flexibility. With Coman, Berardi, Pepe, Pereyra all able to play on the wings, it would be very easy for us to rotate into a 4-3-3 for some matches.
Something like Coman--Morata/Dybala--Berardi might be incredible in 2-3 years time if we groom Coman and Berardi into these roles well.
Berardi in my opinion should be bought, as it's only 15 mil. Total outlay on the player will be pretty low. His performance so far as U20 in Serie A is astonishing and it would be ridiculous not to buy him. And yes, I do rate the fact he is Italian, as this would be massive for Juve to have the next great Italian attacking talent. There hasn't been one since Del Piero and Totti (Giuseppe Rossi was the closest). That's a long time.
He should be loaned out next year and allowed to develop further. Any number of mid-table clubs would love to have him.
From watching him play these last two years, I think he could easily play SS, and be superb at it. His creativity is massively underrated, as is his passing. Look at his assist numbers. 6 last year, 8 already this year. That's excellent. I think he'd be versatile across the entire front-line aside from a traditional CF type. Good finishing, good passing, decent creativity. He'd borderline be able to play a no 10 role in the hole behind 2 strikers. It wouldn't be ideal of course. I'd love to see him here. Even if just as a rotational option, allowing us more tactical flexibility. With Coman, Berardi, Pepe, Pereyra all able to play on the wings, it would be very easy for us to rotate into a 4-3-3 for some matches.
Something like Coman--Morata/Dybala--Berardi might be incredible in 2-3 years time if we groom Coman and Berardi into these roles well.
I'm not advocating Berardi here next year... but Tevez is gone, for sure the year after. So 1 more season with Tevez. Than we have Morata potentially leaving for Madrid that same summer. If that happens we'll have 30 mil to replace him, so that wouldn't be the end of the world, even if keeping him would be ideal.
Berardi in my opinion should be bought, as it's only 15 mil. Total outlay on the player will be pretty low. His performance so far as U20 in Serie A is astonishing and it would be ridiculous not to buy him. And yes, I do rate the fact he is Italian, as this would be massive for Juve to have the next great Italian attacking talent. There hasn't been one since Del Piero and Totti (Giuseppe Rossi was the closest). That's a long time.
He should be loaned out next year and allowed to develop further. Any number of mid-table clubs would love to have him.
From watching him play these last two years, I think he could easily play SS, and be superb at it. His creativity is massively underrated, as is his passing. Look at his assist numbers. 6 last year, 8 already this year. That's excellent. I think he'd be versatile across the entire front-line aside from a traditional CF type. Good finishing, good passing, decent creativity. He'd borderline be able to play a no 10 role in the hole behind 2 strikers. It wouldn't be ideal of course. I'd love to see him here. Even if just as a rotational option, allowing us more tactical flexibility. With Coman, Berardi, Pepe, Pereyra all able to play on the wings, it would be very easy for us to rotate into a 4-3-3 for some matches.
Something like Coman--Morata/Dybala--Berardi might be incredible in 2-3 years time if we groom Coman and Berardi into these roles well.
Berardi in my opinion should be bought, as it's only 15 mil. Total outlay on the player will be pretty low. His performance so far as U20 in Serie A is astonishing and it would be ridiculous not to buy him. And yes, I do rate the fact he is Italian, as this would be massive for Juve to have the next great Italian attacking talent. There hasn't been one since Del Piero and Totti (Giuseppe Rossi was the closest). That's a long time.
He should be loaned out next year and allowed to develop further. Any number of mid-table clubs would love to have him.
From watching him play these last two years, I think he could easily play SS, and be superb at it. His creativity is massively underrated, as is his passing. Look at his assist numbers. 6 last year, 8 already this year. That's excellent. I think he'd be versatile across the entire front-line aside from a traditional CF type. Good finishing, good passing, decent creativity. He'd borderline be able to play a no 10 role in the hole behind 2 strikers. It wouldn't be ideal of course. I'd love to see him here. Even if just as a rotational option, allowing us more tactical flexibility. With Coman, Berardi, Pepe, Pereyra all able to play on the wings, it would be very easy for us to rotate into a 4-3-3 for some matches.
Something like Coman--Morata/Dybala--Berardi might be incredible in 2-3 years time if we groom Coman and Berardi into these roles well.
We will almost certainly spend more than 50m. Dybala and Pereyra alone will be like 45m and there's no way they will be our only signings. Even if it's just Zaza that's already more than 50m, and on top of that we've been linked with centre mids and should be looking at a full back as well. Hopefully we're able to recoup close to 20m on Llorente and Ogbonna because I could easily see us spending 70-80m this summer.
80 will be enough to buy dybala, pereyra and berardi. 
= 80 mil mercato
I said a couple weeks ago, I think we're in line for a 60-80 mil mercato, as we've had a zero net spend over the last two years total.
-15 this past year, and +18 the year before. So we're actually +3 on the transfers over the last 2 years.
With the increased revenue this year, I really see us spending big (relatively speaking).
30 mil Dybala, 15 mil Pereyra, 15 mil Berardi, 20 mil Darmian
= 80 mil mercato
I said a couple weeks ago, I think we're in line for a 60-80 mil mercato, as we've had a zero net spend over the last two years total.
-15 this past year, and +18 the year before. So we're actually +3 on the transfers over the last 2 years.
With the increased revenue this year, I really see us spending big (relatively speaking).
= 80 mil mercato
I said a couple weeks ago, I think we're in line for a 60-80 mil mercato, as we've had a zero net spend over the last two years total.
-15 this past year, and +18 the year before. So we're actually +3 on the transfers over the last 2 years.
With the increased revenue this year, I really see us spending big (relatively speaking).
30 mil Dybala, 15 mil Pereyra, 15 mil Berardi, 20 mil Darmian
= 80 mil mercato
I said a couple weeks ago, I think we're in line for a 60-80 mil mercato, as we've had a zero net spend over the last two years total.
-15 this past year, and +18 the year before. So we're actually +3 on the transfers over the last 2 years.
With the increased revenue this year, I really see us spending big (relatively speaking).
= 80 mil mercato
I said a couple weeks ago, I think we're in line for a 60-80 mil mercato, as we've had a zero net spend over the last two years total.
-15 this past year, and +18 the year before. So we're actually +3 on the transfers over the last 2 years.
With the increased revenue this year, I really see us spending big (relatively speaking).
a lot of British newspapers are now reporting that Juve are set to sign Cavani
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...nchester-United-target-join-Carlos-Tevez.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...nchester-United-target-join-Carlos-Tevez.html
Bright future ahead, but we're better off without the Uruguayan.
Anybody with working internet can watch PSG matches and he is not the guy we knew.
In Napoli he has passed his prime already
Truth be told they did a great job loading Cavani off.
I doubt he is good enough for PSG let alone Juventus at this stage.
Not very likely for Beppe to drop $$$ on him.
Great Man will focus on rejuvenation with Dybala and co.
Praising his old days is nice and dandy but let's stay realistic.
Ibarbo would have been a transfer of similar quality for smaller money.
Anybody with working internet can watch PSG matches and he is not the guy we knew.
In Napoli he has passed his prime already
Truth be told they did a great job loading Cavani off.
I doubt he is good enough for PSG let alone Juventus at this stage.
Not very likely for Beppe to drop $$$ on him.
Great Man will focus on rejuvenation with Dybala and co.
Praising his old days is nice and dandy but let's stay realistic.
Ibarbo would have been a transfer of similar quality for smaller money.
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