Edin Džeko - Striker - Manchester City - Part 2 (25 Viewers)
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They have history for loaning out the strikers, if they are worrying about wage structure it would be a possible solution. Not many big teams hunting for expensive bombers at the moment. And we are more competitive in the market than Milan and merda.
I agree they would prefer the sale, of course, but I wouldn't rule out a loan to facilitate another big move.
I agree they would prefer the sale, of course, but I wouldn't rule out a loan to facilitate another big move.
Not a chance in hell mate. Milan tried it with Tevez and we laughed at them. Italian teams are so damn cheeky lol. You want world class players for peanuts. You aren't bidding for a player we are desperate to be rid of. We have 4 top strikers at City. Mancini wants RvP but he's happy to keep Edin. It would take a cash bid of £20M at the bare minimun for us to even consider it.
We loaned out Bellamy, Adebayor and Santa Cruz because they were surplus to requierments and were (in Ade and Ballamys case) a disruption to the harmony of the squad. Edin is both wanted and loved at the club. Plus we know now an Italian clubs word is worthless in terms of those loan with an option to buy deal. We loan you Edin and buy RvP, Then at the end of the season he is a flop or you can't afford him and you don't want to pay. Fu*ck that. If you want him, Pay for him.
We loaned out Bellamy, Adebayor and Santa Cruz because they were surplus to requierments and were (in Ade and Ballamys case) a disruption to the harmony of the squad. Edin is both wanted and loved at the club. Plus we know now an Italian clubs word is worthless in terms of those loan with an option to buy deal. We loan you Edin and buy RvP, Then at the end of the season he is a flop or you can't afford him and you don't want to pay. Fu*ck that. If you want him, Pay for him.
Loan+rights to buy is something that is usually done come the end of the transfer window and it usually suits both teams.
In your case, if you buy RVP you will have 5 strikers. That would probably mean a lot less playing time for Edin and his price next summer will be perhaps a double less than now. His wages are on your shoulders, he's unhappy, he wants to play, you can't give it to him and you sell for some 13-15m.
Ideally you'd sell him outright now for some 20-25m eur. But if no offer comes, then a loan+rights to buy for 20m eur isn't a bad deal. Someone else pays for his wages and you might get 20m eur next year...something you surely won't get if you glue him on the bench or in the stands.
And if he won't perform and the team that loans him decides not to buy him, then it's the same for you. His price will drop just like it will if you keep him on the bench all the time, but at least someone will pay his wages.
In your case, if you buy RVP you will have 5 strikers. That would probably mean a lot less playing time for Edin and his price next summer will be perhaps a double less than now. His wages are on your shoulders, he's unhappy, he wants to play, you can't give it to him and you sell for some 13-15m.
Ideally you'd sell him outright now for some 20-25m eur. But if no offer comes, then a loan+rights to buy for 20m eur isn't a bad deal. Someone else pays for his wages and you might get 20m eur next year...something you surely won't get if you glue him on the bench or in the stands.
And if he won't perform and the team that loans him decides not to buy him, then it's the same for you. His price will drop just like it will if you keep him on the bench all the time, but at least someone will pay his wages.
The chance that any Italian club would want to pay any loaned players wages let alone a City size wage is almost none existant mate. They would want us to pay the majority for you to get the benefit... No thanks. I understand your point, but you don't understand how City play. It was my own fault really for saying myself that we have 4 strikers. I guess if you don't watch City much then Tevez, Dzeko, Balotelli and Aguero would be seen as just strikers fighting for 1 maybe 2 spots. But that's not how we play mate.
City play with a front 4 with Barry and Yaya behind them. The front 4 could be Silva, Nasri, Aguero, Tevez... Or Johnson, Balotelli, Dzeko, Milner... Or any combination of the above players. We don't have a strike force persay. Just very talented attacking players who swap positions as the play demands it. We rotate it due to form, fitness and amount of games. Sometimes Silva starts wide left but ends up in the middle or up top. Nasri out right but ends up out left. It's completely fluid with no real striker. Infact. Dzeko is probably the only traditional "Center Forward" we have. With that system we play and the amount of games we play in a season (up to 80+) all these players get plenty of game time.
8 players, two squads, both capable of winning every game. This is Mancinis plan. Get RvP in and sell Dzeko or Tevez. Or Keep Dzeko and Tevez and lose out on RvP. It's not that big a deal. We aren't desperate to sell. And a loan deal of any kind, especialy to Italian clubs who are notorious for this kind of deal (Care to remind me what happened with Aquelani?) is in no way good for us and it simply wont happen.
City play with a front 4 with Barry and Yaya behind them. The front 4 could be Silva, Nasri, Aguero, Tevez... Or Johnson, Balotelli, Dzeko, Milner... Or any combination of the above players. We don't have a strike force persay. Just very talented attacking players who swap positions as the play demands it. We rotate it due to form, fitness and amount of games. Sometimes Silva starts wide left but ends up in the middle or up top. Nasri out right but ends up out left. It's completely fluid with no real striker. Infact. Dzeko is probably the only traditional "Center Forward" we have. With that system we play and the amount of games we play in a season (up to 80+) all these players get plenty of game time.
8 players, two squads, both capable of winning every game. This is Mancinis plan. Get RvP in and sell Dzeko or Tevez. Or Keep Dzeko and Tevez and lose out on RvP. It's not that big a deal. We aren't desperate to sell. And a loan deal of any kind, especialy to Italian clubs who are notorious for this kind of deal (Care to remind me what happened with Aquelani?) is in no way good for us and it simply wont happen.
Juventus loaned at least 10 players and for only a couple we didn't use the right to buy. For some, like Matri for example, we are talking about 18m eur, and for Quagliarella, Pepe etc +10 or +15m euro. We bought a huge majority of the players we loaned in the last 3 years.
Aquilani was simply too bad to pay so much money for him. It was actually Liverpool who wanted that transfer to happen. They couldn't sell him even for 10, but if Aquilani performed on loan they were gonna get 16m eur. I'm sure that we were gonna buy him outright if Pool asked for a more realistic price. But Liverpool wanted to get most of what they invested in Aquilani, even though he wasn't worthy. That's why they were betting that he'll perform in Juve and they will get 16m eur. They fucked up. All they had to do was to sell him outright for realistic 10m eur, but they wanted much more and they loaned him with the hope that he'll play well.
Aquilani was simply too bad to pay so much money for him. It was actually Liverpool who wanted that transfer to happen. They couldn't sell him even for 10, but if Aquilani performed on loan they were gonna get 16m eur. I'm sure that we were gonna buy him outright if Pool asked for a more realistic price. But Liverpool wanted to get most of what they invested in Aquilani, even though he wasn't worthy. That's why they were betting that he'll perform in Juve and they will get 16m eur. They fucked up. All they had to do was to sell him outright for realistic 10m eur, but they wanted much more and they loaned him with the hope that he'll play well.
It's not even certain there's any intrest in Dzeko from juve yet. Just speculation. but if there is, And you do try for the sneaky Italian loan with an option to buy deal. City should send the ball right back into your court with a counter offer of Loan with a legal guarantee to buy or kindly fu*ck right off, lol
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