Domenico Berardi (17 Viewers)

[LiquidPLP]

I believe all the $#@! we hear from his agent is in the hopes of selling him to the highest bidder. His agent has financial motives, which is understandable.

In the end, it'll be up to Berardi to decide. Him being an Inter fan doesn't mean anything, Chiellini was a Milan fan, etc. Did you see Berardi celebrate when he scored the winner vs. Inter? The kid wants to play, he wants to be part of a project, and he wants to grow his career. I could understand his fears of joining Juve, but he's going to have to have balls like Dybala and really prove he's worth the hype.

Another thing is the tactical issues. Where does Berardi slot in? The obvious answer is at RWB, I think he could do just fine there...we'll lose some defence but increase in offence. I don't think he'd be worse then Cuadrado tracking back, but I think he'd more potent than Cuadrado in attack. Another option is maybe in the "trequartista" spot in the 4-3-1-2. More of a free role though, receive & distribute the ball centrally or drift out wide to send in a cross or cut inside the box. Another option is obviously SS.

What I think will happen this summer: Real Madrid will take their 30M option for Morata, we'll reinvest that money back into Berardi. Then its up to Allegri to figure out where Berardi fits most optimally (RWB, AM, SS) and then Marotta fills in the gaps from there.

I really think he's talented and he could do well here but in the end if he doesn't come here its because he didn't have the courage and the confidence to take the next step. (Dybala and Zaza did). It would be a shame to see talent like that go to waste, but Juve will live on with or without him.

That's my prediction from a couple of weeks/months ago. Berardi can simply rotate with Dybala. He definitely could play AM too, Pereyra is more of a winger than anything else and it worked too. If we play 442/433 he could be used on the right wing easily.

 

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[Suns]

4-3-3 doesn't work because of Dybala. He doesn't fit well in that formation.

And if we do end up decided going with 4-3-3 we would have to sign a LW as well. So that would mean spending money on Berardi, a new LW and Cuadrado.

I say sign Berardi and make him Dybala's reserve. If that isn't enough for him then no big deal. He can go somewhere else.

 

[juventino320]

I believe all the $#@! we hear from his agent is in the hopes of selling him to the highest bidder. His agent has financial motives, which is understandable.

In the end, it'll be up to Berardi to decide. Him being an Inter fan doesn't mean anything, Chiellini was a Milan fan, etc. Did you see Berardi celebrate when he scored the winner vs. Inter? The kid wants to play, he wants to be part of a project, and he wants to grow his career. I could understand his fears of joining Juve, but he's going to have to have balls like Dybala and really prove he's worth the hype.

Another thing is the tactical issues. Where does Berardi slot in? The obvious answer is at RWB, I think he could do just fine there...we'll lose some defence but increase in offence. I don't think he'd be worse then Cuadrado tracking back, but I think he'd more potent than Cuadrado in attack. Another option is maybe in the "trequartista" spot in the 4-3-1-2. More of a free role though, receive & distribute the ball centrally or drift out wide to send in a cross or cut inside the box. Another option is obviously SS.

What I think will happen this summer: Real Madrid will take their 30M option for Morata, we'll reinvest that money back into Berardi. Then its up to Allegri to figure out where Berardi fits most optimally (RWB, AM, SS) and then Marotta fills in the gaps from there.

I really think he's talented and he could do well here but in the end if he doesn't come here its because he didn't have the courage and the confidence to take the next step. (Dybala and Zaza did). It would be a shame to see talent like that go to waste, but Juve will live on with or without him.

nothing to add

 

[Kopanja]

What do you think about playing 433 with Berardi and Dybala playing free role like Dybala playing now? In this case we still have a CF who makes our attack deeper and grants both this guys space to operate and 3 midfielders could guarantee enough defensive presence in the middle.

 

[Salvo]

What do you think about playing 433 with Berardi and Dybala playing free role like Dybala playing now? In this case we still have a CF who makes our attack deeper and grants both this guys space to operate and 3 midfielders could guarantee enough defensive presence in the middle.

As in at the same time? It could work in certain situations but you need a more "traditional winger" on one side for it to be a starting formation.

 

[Kopanja]

As in at the same time? It could work in certain situations but you need a more "traditional winger" on one side for it to be a starting formation.

Why do you need one "traditional winger" ? You need two strong two-way fullbacks (A. Sandro fills this role perfectly) and two of your midfields except regista should defense properly (Pogba is all-around player and Sturaro is good in tackling). In this case Pogba will be a little limited offensively, but he covers so much ground and so physically sound so he might be able to make good runs in free space esp. when Dybala and/or Berardi drops lower with defender and create space in opponents defense.

 

[juventino320]

I dont think dybala will do well in LW, i think berardi can adopt playing on the right for 352 and we can shift easily to 433 with him when its needed.

Other option is to play 4312, dybala behind mandzu and berardi as second stiker who push wide on the right, if you look to how dybala playing lately drpoing deep to connect with the mids and push for attack i dont think its hard for him to play behind mandzu and berardi.

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---- buffon
lich-bon-chelo-sandro
--sami-cheso-pogba
-------dybala
berardi-mandzu


---------GK
RB---CB---CB---LB
--CM---DM---CM
--------AM
--SS---ST

 

[Salvo]

Why do you need one "traditional winger" ? You need two strong two-way fullbacks (A. Sandro fills this role perfectly) and two of your midfields except regista should defense properly (Pogba is all-around player and Sturaro is good in tackling). In this case Pogba will be a little limited offensively, but he covers so much ground and so physically sound so he might be able to make good runs in free space esp. when Dybala and/or Berardi drops lower with defender and create space in opponents defense.

Balance mainly.

 

[K.O.]

I know Allegri monitors him on daily basis, but I'm still unconvinced of the argument Dybala cannot play on the wing based on his qualities.

So, let's just copy Barcelona's 4-3-3 system

Dybala -> poor's man Messi
Morata -> poor's man Suarez
Berardi -> poor's man Neymar

With slightly better midfield and obviously better defense, we can make it work just fine.

 

[Osman]

Hmm I ask because I don't watch him enough but the little I've seen my impression is that he's way to offensive to play as a proper RWB. But then thats what we thought would be the case with Cuadrado and he's decent defensively.

Or did you mean RS as SS?

Nah kid is a forward much more then wing back.

 

[dolph]

I know Allegri monitors him on daily basis, but I'm still unconvinced of the argument Dybala cannot play on the wing based on his qualities.

So, let's just copy Barcelona's 4-3-3 system

Dybala -> poor's man Messi
Morata -> poor's man Suarez
Berardi -> poor's man Neymar

With slightly better midfield and obviously better defense, we can make it work just fine.

More like, a homeless, living in a cardboard box, eating things he found in the bin behind the liqourstore man Neymar

 

[K.O.]

More like, a homeless, living in a cardboard box, eating things he found in the bin behind the liqourstore man Neymar

One way to put it. Although it can also be used for Dybala when compared to Messi and Morata when compared to Suarez.

 

[dolph]

One way to put it. Although it can also be used for Dybala when compared to Messi and Morata when compared to Suarez.

No no poor mans Suarez and Messi fits well their. It is just the Berardi one that is a hugh understatement.

 

[Hydde]

Another thing is the tactical issues. Where does Berardi slot in? The obvious answer is at RWB, I think he could do just fine there...we'll lose some defence but increase in offence. I don't think he'd be worse then Cuadrado tracking back, but I think he'd more potent than Cuadrado in attack. Another option is maybe in the "trequartista" spot in the 4-3-1-2. More of a free role though, receive & distribute the ball centrally or drift out wide to send in a cross or cut inside the box. Another option is obviously SS.

What I think will happen this summer: Real Madrid will take their 30M option for Morata, we'll reinvest that money back into Berardi. Then its up to Allegri to figure out where Berardi fits most optimally (RWB, AM, SS) and then Marotta fills in the gaps from there.

I really think he's talented and he could do well here but in the end if he doesn't come here its because he didn't have the courage and the confidence to take the next step. (Dybala and Zaza did). It would be a shame to see talent like that go to waste, but Juve will live on with or without him.

I think this too. He will be our post-morata option.

4-3-3 doesn't work because of Dybala. He doesn't fit well in that formation.

And if we do end up decided going with 4-3-3 we would have to sign a LW as well. So that would mean spending money on Berardi, a new LW and Cuadrado.

I say sign Berardi and make him Dybala's reserve. If that isn't enough for him then no big deal. He can go somewhere else.

I dont think Berardi will come here to be dybalas understudy, and it doesnt make sense to not use all our best players at the same time...sepcially berardi who is known for scoring lots of goals out of nowhere (well ...was, this season he is off, but sassuolo is weaker so..)

IMO, in a 4312...either one of dybala or berardi will have to adapt to a trequartista role...and most likely it will have to be Berardi because dybala is working fine as SS. I would prefer dybala as AM because im pretty sure he can do that but allegri will not put him there.

Now, when playing 352... i dont see Berardi being there, unless he is heavily tutored in the arts of a wingback. It could work tho, but it depends on him. At the very least, we will have a winger with real endproduct...not like cuadrado. And the right CM will have to be good at defending to cover Berardi´s back when going to the front which he will be doing a lot obviously. Someone like Sturaro always at his back.

In a 433, Dybala cannot be deployed on the left. Period. ALL his goals have been done with his left foot...so putting him on the left to slot Berardi on the right wing will HUGELY affect dybala´s offensive output. Thats a no go. I would prefer to use the 433 as a dybala-less formation... using Berardi on the right, a CF and Pereyra on the left, or Pogba.

Another way to force a 433 would be to use Dybala on the right wing... and slot Berardi as a CM at the right of Pogba and MArchisio. That way he can support the attack from dybala´s side, and try long range shots with his venomous left foot. He will have to put defensive workload of course.

As you can see, there are many ways to use him..but he will need to adapt to roles. Thats the only way. If he can do that, we will have a great asset and we can kill many birds with one shot without misplacing Dybala.

 

[Signora Omicidi]

No no poor mans Suarez and Messi fits well their. It is just the Berardi one that is a hugh understatement.

You will eat your words when u see this guy in our jersey benching dybala and morata...Yeh he is that good.

 

[zizinho]

You will eat your words when u see this guy in our jersey benching dybala and morata...Yeh he is that good.

no need for that.

----Berardi
Dybala-Morata

Berardi-Dybala-Morata

 

[Signora Omicidi]

no need for that.

----Berardi
Dybala-Morata

Berardi-Dybala-Morata

much better
There r other factors you just can't see in stats like his first touch and game reading ability.for me he has the best first touch in the league by far (neymar level) , he hardly ever misplace a pass under pressure and always looking forward to make 1-2 with other players.and he is very intelligentt on the ball and of the ball movments.
It's surprising people here haven't learned from their mistakes when they reacted in the same manner when we wanted to sign verratti from serie b.

 

[zizinho]

much better
There r other factors you just can't see in stats like his first touch and game reading ability.for me he has the best first touch in the league by far (neymar level) , he hardly ever misplace a pass under pressure and always looking forward to make 1-2 with other players.and he is very intelligentt on the ball and of the ball movments.
It's surprising people here haven't learned from their mistakes when they reacted in the same manner when we wanted to sign verratti from serie b.

people decided that his "bad" season after the previous 2 great one dont make him a special player anymore. hes also not enough of a fancy dribbler to be considered a special player. in reality, hes a very effective player who often drops deep to collect the ball under pressure from where he can send a long ball or make a pass to free himself up again. hes strong on the ball, is a threat from setpieces, has great shot and through balls from around the box and is inteligent in his movements off the ball. not to mention his defensive contribution. the type of player we could definitely use in this lineup. the only issue is his discipline record...

also, this season he is statwise not as impressive as previous seasons (6 goals, 3 assists in 1501 minutes, a goal/assist every 166 minutes), but that doesent mean hes been terrible. hes Sassuolos (7th in Serie A) top scorer together with Defrel and top assister together with Vrsaljko and Duncan. at 22 hes already playing his 3rd season in Serie A (4th if we count the one in B) where he is carrying the ofense of his team. thats enough said tbh

and yes, if he doesent refuse to, we are definitely gonna get him here.

 

[Hydde]

He was injured the beggining of the season, and lets be honest... sassuolo´s offensive is rather weaker now in comparison to previous years with the departure of zaza and floro flores. Zaza is a workhorse and helped to ease Berardi´s job.

In a team like juve, with real champs supporting him...his numbers will scalate again quickly.

 

[Suns]

I think this too. He will be our post-morata option.



I dont think Berardi will come here to be dybalas understudy, and it doesnt make sense to not use all our best players at the same time...sepcially berardi who is known for scoring lots of goals out of nowhere (well ...was, this season he is off, but sassuolo is weaker so..)

IMO, in a 4312...either one of dybala or berardi will have to adapt to a trequartista role...and most likely it will have to be Berardi because dybala is working fine as SS. I would prefer dybala as AM because im pretty sure he can do that but allegri will not put him there.

Now, when playing 352... i dont see Berardi being there, unless he is heavily tutored in the arts of a wingback. It could work tho, but it depends on him. At the very least, we will have a winger with real endproduct...not like cuadrado. And the right CM will have to be good at defending to cover Berardi´s back when going to the front which he will be doing a lot obviously. Someone like Sturaro always at his back.

In a 433, Dybala cannot be deployed on the left. Period. ALL his goals have been done with his left foot...so putting him on the left to slot Berardi on the right wing will HUGELY affect dybala´s offensive output. Thats a no go. I would prefer to use the 433 as a dybala-less formation... using Berardi on the right, a CF and Pereyra on the left, or Pogba.

Another way to force a 433 would be to use Dybala on the right wing... and slot Berardi as a CM at the right of Pogba and MArchisio. That way he can support the attack from dybala´s side, and try long range shots with his venomous left foot. He will have to put defensive workload of course.

As you can see, there are many ways to use him..but he will need to adapt to roles. Thats the only way. If he can do that, we will have a great asset and we can kill many birds with one shot without misplacing Dybala.

The only formation I can think of that could work with those guys is Ancelloti's good ol' christmas tree formation.

Mandzu
Dybala - Berardi
Pogba - Marchisio - Khedira

If that is were they are going then I'd actually be ok with it.