Domenico Berardi (34 Viewers)

Tomice

Senior Member
Mar 25, 2009
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Anyway...

Whats up with the all mentaly ready/ not ready BS arguments? Like anyone here have a insight to base anything on, there are no similar cases, we are talking about an indvidual that no one here realy knows beside watching an handfull of games for a low level and inconstintent team

Anyone sat with the guy for a talk or watched him in training? How can anyone assume as to how he is going to Cope? Is Genie Scout is a real thing now?
 

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Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,472
Seriously, I'm done with trying to convey to these fuucktards how many ounces of IQ-reducing dung they consume everyday just by clicking "load" on their saved Football Manager game. No, playing time in Serie A is not the most important thing for young players, and no, posters here have certainly never played a game of football in real life.

"They need to play games, otherwise they suck!"

"There's no way they can ever get good without playing for other teams (who are all garbage Serie A teams anyway who always lose!)!"

"we have to loan them so they can play against the best sides (the sides they want to play for anyway, which defeats the purpose of loaning!)!

If that is the case, please stick with FM and do not ever get your fat fuucking asses on the pitch.
Letting youngsters train with the squad and sit on the bench could help them acclimatise to the conditions of a top club or it could completely kill their confidence. It could go either way. It's not black and white. The outcome is probably dependent upon the player and the club he's being loaned out to. Some managers and staff are better at developing youth than others. I don't see how playing games at a top level isn't preferable to not getting game time either.

What wealth of footballing experience do you have that shows you really know what you're talking about? You've never played football even near this level.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,055
Seriously, I'm done with trying to convey to these fuucktards how many ounces of IQ-reducing dung they consume everyday just by clicking "load" on their saved Football Manager game. No, playing time in Serie A is not the most important thing for young players, and no, posters here have certainly never played a game of football in real life.

"They need to play games, otherwise they suck!"

"There's no way they can ever get good without playing for other teams (who are all garbage Serie A teams anyway who always lose!)!"

"we have to loan them so they can play against the best sides (the sides they want to play for anyway, which defeats the purpose of loaning!)!

If that is the case, please stick with FM and do not ever get your fat fuucking asses on the pitch.
:sergio:
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
62,842
Letting youngsters train with the squad and sit on the bench could help them acclimatise to the conditions of a top club or it could completely kill their confidence. It could go either way. It's not black and white. The outcome is probably dependent upon the player and the club he's being loaned out to. Some managers and staff are better at developing youth than others. I don't see how playing games at a top level isn't preferable to not getting game time either.

What wealth of footballing experience do you have that shows you really know what you're talking about? You've never played football even near this level.
:agree: Some will benefit, others won't. What is Zach's argument and what is the counter argument? I am of the opinion that if he comes back next season, so be it, hopefully he goes well, if not he is young enough to have another season under his belt before he comes back.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,115
Zach's argument is that he hasn't shown enough in his debut season to warrant a place in our team next season. He says he was too anonymous in a long run of games, and only scored goals in "blocks" which made his stats look better than what they were.

The others' argument is that he is a 19 year old making his debut season in Serie A, and he has scored 19 goals, shown plenty of skill and confidence, playing in a shitty team under tough circumstances.

The truth, of course, is somewhere in the middle. I fall in the camp of wanting him to come back to Turin. I think he's ready for a big club.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Says the fucker who never adds anything apart from homosexual fantasies with Klin. Good Job.

But since i've got an exam in 3 houres, i'll actually do that.

In the mean time, go fuck yourself to death plz

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Zach's argument is that he hasn't shown enough in his debut season to warrant a place in our team next season. He says he was too anonymous in a long run of games, and only scored goals in "blocks" which made his stats look better than what they were.

The others' argument is that he is a 19 year old making his debut season in Serie A, and he has scored 19 goals, shown plenty of skill and confidence, playing in a shitty team under tough circumstances.

The truth, of course, is somewhere in the middle. I fall in the camp of wanting him to come back to Turin. I think he's ready for a big club.
This, i agree with.

Unfortunatly, i'll get banned by the time i'm back to further discuss it, so people can go ahead and hype this, to prepare crapping down when he isnt performing in a game next year.

Bye
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,998
This is a youngster that already proved something. Because of that, he deserves to be coached by superior coaches and do the training next to superior players, even at the expense of less playing time.
His flaws will be terminated by better experts, not by playing more minutes in an inferior team and coaches who won't work on the problem. It is here where he'll become a better player, not Sassuolo, nor Genoa, Parma or Torino.
I'm happy to have this player in the squad. As mentioned, this is not just another youngster. He's the first teenager in +60 years that managed to score 16+ goals in a serie A season. Juve should be his home.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,115
This is a youngster that already proved something. Because of that, he deserves to be coached by superior coaches and do the training next to superior players, even at the expense of less playing time.
His flaws will be terminated by better experts, not by playing more minutes in an inferior team and coaches who won't work on the problem. It is here where he'll become a better player, not Sassuolo, nor Genoa, Parma or Torino.
I'm happy to have this player in the squad. As mentioned, this is not just another youngster. He's the first teenager in +60 years that managed to score 16+ goals in a serie A season. Juve should be his home.
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Jul 1, 2010
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This is a youngster that already proved something. Because of that, he deserves to be coached by superior coaches and do the training next to superior players, even at the expense of less playing time.
His flaws will be terminated by better experts, not by playing more minutes in an inferior team and coaches who won't work on the problem. It is here where he'll become a better player, not Sassuolo, nor Genoa, Parma or Torino.
I'm happy to have this player in the squad. As mentioned, this is not just another youngster. He's the first teenager in +60 years that managed to score 16+ goals in a serie A season. Juve should be his home.
:agree:
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Zach's argument is that he hasn't shown enough in his debut season to warrant a place in our team next season. He says he was too anonymous in a long run of games, and only scored goals in "blocks" which made his stats look better than what they were.

The others' argument is that he is a 19 year old making his debut season in Serie A, and he has scored 19 goals, shown plenty of skill and confidence, playing in a shitty team under tough circumstances.

The truth, of course, is somewhere in the middle. I fall in the camp of wanting him to come back to Turin. I think he's ready for a big club.
And that he is mentally weak. Not ready for a top club "mentally".

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This is a youngster that already proved something. Because of that, he deserves to be coached by superior coaches and do the training next to superior players, even at the expense of less playing time.
His flaws will be terminated by better experts, not by playing more minutes in an inferior team and coaches who won't work on the problem. It is here where he'll become a better player, not Sassuolo, nor Genoa, Parma or Torino.
I'm happy to have this player in the squad. As mentioned, this is not just another youngster. He's the first teenager in +60 years that managed to score 16+ goals in a serie A season. Juve should be his home.
But he isn't mentally ready, however, Paul Pogba was apparently.

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http://football-italia.net/50141/youth-juve%E2%80%99s-future
Youth is Juve’s future


Juventus might have lost Ciro Immobile, but Jeremy Lim believes the Italian champions are now ready to hand a new brood of talent the opportunity they need for next season.

Ciro Immobile couldn’t conceal his delight after signing for Borussia Dortmund on Monday. The Serie A Capocannoniere had finally landed his big move after spending four years of his career out on numerous deals to Italy’s provinces.

The 24-year-old made his mark in that period but to no avail in earning a season starring for boyhood club Juventus. Try as he might, the striker wasn’t able to find his way back to where he had become Viareggio champion twice, as if stuck in a permanent time loop of being sent away to prove himself.

“Antonio Conte knows Immobile well. He watched him grow up in the youth academy and maybe he isn’t suited to his style of play. At Dortmund he will have the guarantee of being a starter and showing all of his qualities,” his agent explained. There was no entitlement in those words, but the simple admission that waiting to become relevant for Juventus would have amounted to a dead end. Like the tremendous poacher the new Italy international had become, he saw his chance in an European side’s interest and took it.

It is a reminder to the Old Lady that the compromise of parking her top young talent in various deals around the peninsula will not keep them satisfied forever. While such arrangements see the players develop in leaps and bounds, fashioning a career in the lower rungs as their youthful exuberance becomes spent is not a future they envision for themselves. The call of a foreign team can mean the only opportunity to break the rut.

The decisions Juventus face over a myriad of co-owned players this summer may already be made easier though. Players like Manolo Gabbiadini and Domenico Berardi have proven over the last pair of campaigns away from Vinovo that they just might have something extra to add to Conte’s squad. The former could easily alternate with Carlos Tevez and Fernando Llorente upfront. And the latter is a wing wizard of great impact and flair - surely fulfilling a need in the Bianconeri’s arsenal.

It will certainly be no mean feat improving the three-time Italian champions, but it can prove a positive challenge for these rising stars. With Richmond Boakye and Simone Zaza also indicating their desire to form part of Juve’s pre-season plans recently, there is increasing hope we will soon see some from the club’s stables dine at top table. Having a chance to work in tandem with those responsible for three consecutive Scudetti, as well as this summer’s list of touted imports, could pay dividends for those ready to make the next step in their futures.

In a period when funds must be allocated carefully, propelling certain 'predestinati’ into the first team means maximum reward for minimum risk for the Turin outfit. Keeping their special cohort of talent in sight of the Bianconero colours ensures a fledgling player’s mix of age, ambition and actual capabilities present always stays balanced. And with more than a possibility one of them emulates youth icon Paul Pogba, Juventus will be there to reap the benefits all the way.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
Berardi will never make it to the squad, he will be loaned to death, if Immobile didnt make it, which much more suited, considering that we need depth in the finisher's slots (since we loan someone as poor as Osvaldo to be Llorente's sub) and we have an excess of SSs (Tevez, Giovinco, Pepe, Vucinic, Quaq, Isla)

Even if we swap to 4-3-3 and prefer a SS instead of Licht/Caceres/Isla, again we have a lot of players to sell before he becomes relevant and we ussually opt to keep the experienced ones, (that MArotta cant sell anyways) and co own the young ones, with a very low fee for 50% and no buy back clause...
 

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