Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (10 Viewers)

[ALC]

not when you're the president. you need to think about consequences.

 

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[AndreaCristiano]

not when you're the president. you need to think about consequences.

Bro what are you even saying a persons thought process automatically is affected by their personal beliefs president or not

 

[swag]

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[ALC]

Bro what are you even saying a persons thought process automatically is affected by their personal beliefs president or not

no, when you have to make decisions that affect 300+ million people, you don't look at what you think, you look at what benefits the people more.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

no, when you have to make decisions that affect 300+ million people, you don't look at what you think, you look at what benefits the people more.

OMG bro. When Obama looks at the issues he is influenced by his social justice beliefs. His leftist leanings. His outlook on Christianity. Etc these are the things that formed his ideology which he looks through to decide his decisions. You might not thinks so but EVERYONE uses the things that formed them to make decisions no one makes decisions like you think

 

[Hust]

"not when you're the president. you need to think about consequences."

@Barack Obama

 

[AndreaCristiano]

"not when you're the president. you need to think about consequences."

@Barack Obama

:thumbup:

 

[IrishZebra]

OMG bro. When Obama looks at the issues he is influenced by his social justice beliefs. His leftist leanings. His outlook on Christianity. Etc these are the things that formed his ideology which he looks through to decide his decisions. You might not thinks so but EVERYONE uses the things that formed them to make decisions no one makes decisions like you think

Bombing weddings in Pakistan while bringing about a bigger security state than GW Bush is considered leftist now?

 

[Maddy]

OMG bro. When Obama looks at the issues he is influenced by his social justice beliefs. His leftist leanings. His outlook on Christianity. Etc these are the things that formed his ideology which he looks through to decide his decisions. You might not thinks so but EVERYONE uses the things that formed them to make decisions no one makes decisions like you think

see. you have a point. but you fail when you do not accept that some people are far more pragmatic than you. we are not all as influenced by ideology and faith as you. so we listen to scientifcal arguments prior to making a decision. tending towards meritocracy.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Bombing weddings in Pakistan while bringing about a bigger security state than GW Bush is considered leftist now?

Out of that you pick the little phrase. My point wasn't about policy. I was explaining how the thought process works. Some on here think that a person can make decisions free from their influences that shaped their thought process

 

[Hust]

see. you have a point. but you fail when you do not accept that some people are far more pragmatic than you. we are not all as influenced by ideology and faith as you. so we listen to scientifcal arguments prior to making a decision. tending towards meritocracy.

Your English is freakishly good.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

see. you have a point. but you fail when you do not accept that some people are far more pragmatic than you. we are not all as influenced by ideology and faith as you. so we listen to scientifcal arguments prior to making a decision. tending towards meritocracy.

I only used those things as an example because those are things that Obama has been influenced by. It could be a whole other range of things that a person can be influenced by. My point is that no one makes uninfluenced decisions like hutz believes. You automatically sent to the faith and not the point that was being made

 

[IrishZebra]

Out of that you pick the little phrase. My point wasn't about policy. I was explaining how the thought process works. Some on here think that a person can make decisions free from their influences that shaped their thought process

Well if he's been formed as a true Christian and indeed a leftist (socialist ideals lie at the heart of at least the catholic ethos) he would not engage in such behaviour, I would go so far as to say the his job and american politics is shaping him more than his 'nurture' factor. Anybody that believes truly in Christian values would not authorise those drone strikes.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Well if he's been formed as a true Christian and indeed a leftist (socialist ideals lie at the heart of at least the catholic ethos) he would not engage in such behaviour, I would go so far as to say the his job and american politics is shaping him more than his 'nurture' factor. Anybody that believes truly in Christian values would not authorise those drone strikes.

That as true as it may be was not my intention in the post. He could be a false Christian that's between him and God I just put it there because he says his faith is integral to his decisions

 

[IrishZebra]

That as true as it may be was not my intention in the post. He could be a false Christian that's between him and God I just put it there because he says his faith is integral to his decisions

I don't think any true Christian could be POTUS, politicians are bad in general, being the number one politician on earth? forget about it.

I've always had Obama pegged as a 'whitey christian' only looking out for honkey-interests under the guise of moral leadership.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Wow dis thread is still alive

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I don't think any true Christian could be POTUS, politicians are bad in general, being the number one politician on earth? forget about it.

I've always had Obama pegged as a 'whitey christian' only looking out for honkey-interests under the guise of moral leadership.

I agree with your assessment I think politics the way it is is contrary to Christianity completely. Its basically selling your soul for your means.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

I agree with your assessment I think politics the way it is is contrary to Christianity completely. Its basically selling your soul for your means.

Have you prayed today?, AndreaChrist?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Wow dis thread is still alive

I pray every day

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

I pray every day

And god is hearing to you? did he response to you?