Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (14 Viewers)

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Says the guy who just called me a petulant child.



Because the definition of god is logically incoherent, and god is asserted without evidence. Like Hitches said: whatever is asserted without evidence is dismissed without evidence.



A random result is more believable than the result of a god who created it so that humans can marvel at his work and worship him and offer sacrifices and fight his (metaphorical)battles for him on earth.



OK. Then tell me why god is an efficient communicator when almost all of his attempts to communicate his existence to me have failed.

Makes more sense than arguing for the random.

Any way thanks for the chat guys, gotta go feed my daughter , while I teach her more about God and his wonderful creation

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

Calling you a petulant child because everyone else is acting mature and discussing this without resorting to tantrums and attitude

Absurd arguments bring about that reaction in me. I can't help it. I bet god programmed me that way.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Makes more sense than arguing for the random.

Any way thanks for the chat guys, gotta go feed my daughter , while I teach her more about God and his wonderful creation

Bless you brother enjoy dinner with your daughter

 

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Fallacious argument. Unsupported and untestable claim. Unbelievable proposition.



Yet you claim to understand god and the purpose he created the universe and us humans. Hypo[/B]crite!

Love you too brother.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Makes more sense than arguing for the random.

Nope. The randomness is there for all to see. You just refuse to see it.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Absurd arguments bring about that reaction in me. I can't help it. I bet god programmed me that way.

Probably but just because you can not comprehend an argument doesn't make it absurd. Think of what people thought of DaVinci or franklin were they absurd ? Or newton or Einstein , people believed them to be absurd yet they weren't

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Even though sensory alone points to the glory of God, the universe is full of his power and signs. But the atheist chooses to close his heart and give credit to terms like science and Mother Nature.

Yeah Science eh? What has Science ever done for us?

 

[JuveJay]

The reactions still come after the initial act of creation.

What created God, himself? One minute he's not there and then he is?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

What created God, himself? One minute he's not there and then he is?

Always was is and ever will be

 

[swag]

Yeah Science eh? What has Science ever done for us?

Hot robot chicks.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Love you too brother.

I only got 1 brother, and you ain't him. I still love you in a purely platonic way. (Your arguments are sill unconvincing btw)

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Probably but just because you can not comprehend an argument doesn't make it absurd. Think of what people thought of DaVinci or franklin were they absurd ? Or newton or Einstein , people believed them to be absurd yet they weren't

It makes it absurd to me. Can't help it.

Always was is and ever will be

Just so you know how it feels, that statement sounds as absurd to us as the notion of a random, purposeless universe would sound to you.

 

[JuveJay]

Always was is and ever will be

Doesn't really seem likely.

BTW your avatar reminds me of this pattern maker I had as a kid:

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

The question is where did this world come from. God existed as He was before the world existed and remains as He was since then.

True wisdom entails that one is humble enough to admit the human intellect is not able to understand absolutely everything.

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The reactions still come after the initial act of creation.

Not a satisfactory answer. If God exists, he was obviously created by someone or something, who was it?

 

[swag]

Doesn't really seem likely.

BTW your avatar reminds me of this pattern maker I had as a kid:

Be honest. You just used to wear that around your wiener to impress all the chicks.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Doesn't really seem likely.

BTW your avatar reminds me of this pattern maker I had as a kid:

Not seeming likely doesn't make it improbable

 

[JuveJay]

Be honest. You just used to wear that around your wiener to impress all the chicks.

That thing is far too small, of course...

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I only got 1 brother, and you ain't him. I still love you in a purely platonic way. (Your arguments are sill unconvincing btw)

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It makes it absurd to me. Can't help it.



Just so you know how it feels, that statement sounds as absurd to us as the notion of a random, purposeless universe would sound to you.

Yes but we reacted in two totally different ways

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Simply proving that a god exists serves no purpose in and of itself. In fact, it opens up the possibility that every god that's ever been claimed to exist now actually exists. That means Yahweh, Allah, Brahman, Waheguru (and several others) all exist. It also means that their scriptures, and all the claims made in it are true. Which leads to a lot of contradictory claims. This is impossible. The most reasonable position would then be to assume that none of these are true, and await evidence that only one of these is true.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Not a satisfactory answer. If God exists, he was obviously created by someone or something, who was it?

There has to be an alpha somewhere that wasn't created because creation had to have a beginning. Its like the theory of something from nothing in the big bang scenario. That the bang came from nothing then all of a sudden boom

 

[JuveJay]

Not seeming likely doesn't make it improbable

Time. What does it mean to you?