Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (13 Viewers)
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I don't think you understood.
To be considered atheist you have to reject the idea of god. As I said, you CAN'T reject something you don't know about.
I was saying hypothetically but if you wanted you could at least not give them ideas and wait for them to decide when they are older.
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Yes, that's the reason 
Dude you are totally wrong. How times do I have to say atheism is the REJECTION of BELIEF. If you never knew about that belief you wouldn't be atheist because you never rejected it in the first place.
To be considered atheist you have to reject the idea of god. As I said, you CAN'T reject something you don't know about.
I was saying hypothetically but if you wanted you could at least not give them ideas and wait for them to decide when they are older.
See above...
I think the reason AC and MV are defining atheism in that way is to save themselves from being called atheists to the hundreds/thousands of gods they don't know about. 
So it's wrong when only I do it? Come on, AC!
Let me try explaining it again: regardless of whether you are aware of the claim of a particular god or not, a positive belief(ex: "I believe god X exists") is not part of your belief system. It's simply not part of the subset of positive beliefs you have. Therefore, you are an atheist due to the lack of that belief.
Capisco?
Let me try explaining it again: regardless of whether you are aware of the claim of a particular god or not, a positive belief(ex: "I believe god X exists") is not part of your belief system. It's simply not part of the subset of positive beliefs you have. Therefore, you are an atheist due to the lack of that belief.
Capisco?
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And you're Superman.
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the viewpointo f someone who is religious is irrelevant in an academical context - especially history. There are alot of religious individuals studying history at my university, and the first thing they were told when they entered the building was to leave that outside because there was no room for it here. Striving towards objectivity is the prime goal, and when we're describing history and depicting religion there is no room for personal belief or bias.
I don't think you go to a real university, son.
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No. It is not. Broadly speaking atheism refers to the rejection of belief. It is not merely about not believing.
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the viewpointo f someone who is religious is irrelevant in an academical context - especially history. There are alot of religious individuals studying history at my university, and the first thing they were told when they entered the building was to leave that outside because there was no room for it here. Striving towards objectivity is the prime goal, and when we're describing history and depicting religion there is no room for personal belief or bias.
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No. It is not. Broadly speaking atheism refers to the rejection of belief. It is not merely about not believing.
Once again you prove your ignorance on theology and its history. The jews believe in the same God they just dont accept Jesus messiahship, although judaism is dying and the messianic jewish movement is exploding so thats changing
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Kal-El means "All of God"
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Kal-El means "All of God"
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the truth is you are ignorant, and you speak as though you know. Christianity was an early jewish sect until 165 ad when the temple decided that their belief as Yeshua as Messiah was no longer acceptable and they excommunicated those jews, those Christ believing Jews at this point started their own church and started Christianity. Learn something before you speak child!
Atheism, just like Christianity, has a broad definition and has a broad usage. There are many atheists that define atheism as I do and there are many that define it as you do. Some even define it as a belief that there is no god(though I find that unreasonable). Just like Catholics, Protestants, Pentacostal, Baptists, Methodists are all Christians, all the people who define themselves as above are also atheists cos they lack a belief that a god exists.