Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (20 Viewers)

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  • Man make God?

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Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
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Dec 10, 2004
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Shows your limited knowledge of Christianity, the purpose of christ coming was to DIE and Ressurect, to carry the sins of the world on his death, so that the mankind can be forgiven, why would he spare him, if that was the reason for his birth? The death and ressurection shows the defeat of earthly death and ressurection in the new Jerusalem
Right, so his birth, life, and resurrection was all planned for all of mankind's salvation from a sin someone else committed but because 'my' God doesn't produce zombies his powers are limited?
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,125
Right, so his birth, life, and resurrection was all planned for all of mankind's salvation from a sin someone else committed but because 'my' God doesn't produce zombies his powers are limited?
No your God isn't limited you limit him. Also Jesus isn't living dead or a zombie he is living completely. You don't make any sense virgin birth ok , creation of a whole universe from nothing acceptable but ressurecting a person in a perfect form thats where you draw the line on the miraculous lol. Just like deneb says its only when it fits your narrative that it doesn't make sense

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Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
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Dec 10, 2004
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No your God isn't limited you limit him. Also Jesus isn't living dead or a zombie he is living completely. You don't make any sense virgin birth ok , creation of a whole universe from nothing acceptable but ressurecting a person in a perfect form thats where you draw the line on the miraculous lol. Just like deneb says its only when it fits your narrative that it doesn't make sense

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I'm learning that it's impossible to argue with someone who believes the world was created 6k years ago, that sin is genetically passed down, and that "living completely" means you can exist over 2k years. Also, you piggy back ride Deneb a lot.

I'll end this here. I wasn't even in a discussion with you, I was responding to Woody and Ahmed.
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,125
I'm learning that it's impossible to argue with someone who believes the world was created 6k years ago, that sin is genetically passed down, and that "living completely" means you can exist over 2k years. Also, you piggy back ride Deneb a lot.

I'll end this here. I wasn't even in a discussion with you, I was responding to Woody and Ahmed.
I don't believe the earth is 6K years old. So don't assume. Woody and Ahmed aren't Christian so your supposedly talking to them BS is just that BS. I don't piggy back deneb he just makes valid points
 
Apr 15, 2006
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Seriously? Did you see his views on the invasion of Iraq or not, i strongly suggest you watch videos of him talking about that issue. He's a sadistic arsehole and a stain on humanity, anyone who rationalizes the killing of innocent people and the destruction of a country under pretenses like "we're bringing western civilization to a backward country" deserves absolutely zero respect.

and just to make things clear, by saying he's not a shit stain due to the reasons i mentioned, are you agreeing with or condoning his opinions on western invasion in Arab countries?!

My hate for him? He justifies the killing of the Iraqi people, a fellow Arab country, from which i have so many friends, the vast majority of them who haven't been able to go back to their country because of the coalition forces illegal invasion. What the fuck do you think my feelings toward him will be?? Love and compassion?!
You're entitled to your opinion about him, and that's fine with me. It's just your choice of words that disgust me.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Are you listening to what i'm saying?! or are you being obtuse on purpose?

My choice of words? You know what disgusts me? The fact that you care more about my choice of wording than your hero justifying bombing cities and villages and invading sovereign countries.

He's a stain on humanity, good riddance, the world needs less sadistic people like him.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Strong argument, i am now convinced that Hitchens is a decent human being.

Its quite telling that you're willing to defend Hitchens no matter what his opinions are on other subjects, so long as he agrees with you on your atheist views and is regarded as one of the more outspoken atheists.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Ya, only those who condone the bombing and destruction of countries. Hitchens falls under that category, so he is a huge stain on humanity.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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As much as I agree with Hitchens on his religious stance, he was a huge douche cunt when it came to everything else. I have to side with Fred on this one..
 

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