Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (31 Viewers)

[adriano_c]

more spiritual +rep to Juve matador

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

You can believe this or not but a friend of mine was molested by a priest when he was younger and he is now a monsigner in the church and an awesome priest. He found light from that darkness and didn't hold God responsible for the darkness perpetrated by that priest. So out of the dark he saw the light and overcame that evil and became a great beacon of light. So this is what I mean. Out of that darkness some might blame God etc he chose to see that God wasn't the reason he was molested. That person wasn't of God even though he proclaimed it didn't make it true

Sounds like jibberish to me.

It just makes so much more sense to believe that god does not exist than to believe that this god would make random, irrational, illogical decisions and somehow, it's all planned for and it'll all turn out to be good.

I love these 'trolling god' memes.

Brilliant!

ESPECIALLY the 8th day dinosaur thingie, guessing right, free will one and the homosexuality one.

+rep

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I'm the end sheik if that's what makes sense to you than God bless but to me not believing makes no sense. Goodnight all be well

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

those memes show your lack of true understanding when it comes to God

The same bias I pointed out before. Since you cannot come to accept that god can do such things, you blame humans for a lack of understanding.

 

[Juve matador]

Its crazy how some religious people, act like their god is a lovely chap, who only does good.

It should be clear to them (if they've read their holy book), that he's a mass murdering, trolling, dictator who rules with an iron fist.


And about those dinosaur bones, one lad I know, who is religious, believes god put them their, to test our 'belief', basically, he believes god, is trying to make us not believe in him, but deep down, hopes we will still believe in him...

 

[adriano_c]

Let's be serious, the Judeo-Christian (Islamic) concept of "God" is habitually dickish to say the least.

Guy needs to be permanently retired.

 

[X Æ A-12]

And about those dinosaur bones, one lad I know, who is religious, believes god put them their, to test our 'belief', basically, he believes god, is trying to make us not believe in him, but deep down, hopes we will still believe in him...

FFS

 

[Juve matador]

FFS

I know right, its counter productive to say the least, the good lord is contributing to his own downfall.

It just goes to show, that some (many) religious people, will find a way to tie everything into their religion. To them, nothing can prove that their religion is bullshit.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Yea people like that will rationalize anything to avoid considering that they might actually be wrong.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I know right, its counter productive to say the least, the good lord is contributing to his own downfall.

If god really does exist, and cares whether we believe in him, then he shot himself in the foot by granting us free will.

"Hey guys. I want you to believe in me. But oh wait, I'm gonna give you free will, which may also make you NOT believe in me".

It just goes to show, that some (many) religious people, will find a way to tie everything into their religion. To them, nothing can prove that their religion is bullshit.

It's the bias I've been talking about in the last few pages, and to some extent demonstrated by Andrea.

 

[Juve matador]

All religious people, put up shoddy arguments, they will spout some philosphical bullshit in respone to a valid, solid argument, whilst not directly answering your question.

How they can still believe is beyond me.

Hopefully in the near future, the vast majority of people won't be religious.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Nah dude, fuck god.

If he does exist he can lick my hairy balls, by fuck will I bow to him.

+Rep

 

[Trequartista]

I just read the last few pages, Juve matador

I have some more

 

[Trequartista]

Nzoric will love this one

 

[Ford Prefect]

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously in any debate. You're like a child who just got their toy taken away

I wasn't trying to debate, I was joining in with matador before i went to bed. Theres no point trying to debate with people that have taken a logical falicy to heart because they were born into a belief - when that falicy has taken place there is nothing i can say because you can just convince yourself of anything - 'god moves in mysterious ways' being the standard falicy.

 

[Fred]

Man this is still going on?

I've learnt that there is absolutely no benefit from these discussions long ago. But it used to be quite interesting back in the day when it was back and forth between Martin, Juve Rev and occasionally Ze Tahir. Now its just a bunch of people trolling, and the religious minority(in these discussions they're a minority) trying to defend their beliefs. No real debate happening.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I'm insulted by your comment, fred.

 

[Fred]

My comments weren't directed at anyone in particular. I was commenting on the general nature of this thread these days, its just become a trolling match between the two sides.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I'm still insulted. I don't actively engage in trolling here. I've tried my best to have rational discussions in every chance I get.

An apology from you would be appreciated.

 

[icemaη]

Anyone who thinks Padoin is a good player deserves all the slack he can get