Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (15 Viewers)

[Nzoric]

Will some believer please answer me. Why do you need guidelines as to "why" you exist? I have yet to stumble upon an argument for this.

 

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[Quetzalcoatl]

Imagine if it was somehow proven that God was real... I wonder how that would change the lives of us non-believers

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Will some believer please answer me. Why do you need guidelines as to "why" you exist? I have yet to stumble upon an argument for this.

I do not believe neither worship God for the guidelines nor rules of why I exist. I believe and therefore I follow the guidelines to the best of my sinful nature

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Imagine if it was somehow proven that God was real... I wonder how that would change the lives of us non-believers

I think some would still choose to not believe

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Imagine if it was somehow proven that God was real... I wonder how that would change the lives of us non-believers

While unlikely, I have nothing to fear. I will acknowledge his presence, but I'll continue leading my life as I am right now. Heaven or hell, bring it on!

 

[AndreaCristiano]

While unlikely, I have nothing to fear. I will acknowledge his presence, but I'll continue leading my life as I am right now. Heaven or hell, bring it on!

I rest my case

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Off to bed. I shall continue with this insanity tomorrow. Goodnight folks.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I rest my case

What do you expect me to do otherwise?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

What do you expect me to do otherwise?

Yes at least take into consideration the gravitas of your creator the be all end all. The alpha and the omega

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I think some would still choose to not believe

Well I mean if we do believe, would it change anything?

While unlikely, I have nothing to fear. I will acknowledge his presence, but I'll continue leading my life as I am right now. Heaven or hell, bring it on!

Yeah. I can't imagine "loving" a being whose presence you can't feel.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Well I mean if we do believe, would it change anything?
Yeah. I can't imagine "loving" a being whose presence you can't feel.

Who says you can't feel it? Believers feel Gods presence

 

[Zé Tahir]

AC, please take a look at this book: http://www.alislam.org/library/books/christianity_facts_to_fiction/chapter_1.html

And you too, try to keep an open mind when you read it.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Who says you can't feel it? Believers feel Gods presence

I was a believer once and that's why I stopped.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I was a believer once and that's why I stopped.

Just saying you are a believer or believing just because doesn't make you a believer. Its easy to profess God with your lips harder with your heart

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Yes at least take into consideration the gravitas of your creator the be all end all. The alpha and the omega

My creators are my mother and father. Not God. Just because he exists, doesn't mean he literally created us. There's still a lot if Arizona to be answered by him, a lot of explaining to do. Until that really happens, i'm not changing my ways.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

AC, please take a look at this book: http://www.alislam.org/library/books/christianity_facts_to_fiction/chapter_1.html

And you too, try to keep an open mind when you read it.

Gonna read it now. Update*
After reading it as interesting as this hypothesis is , the author speaks of God not being able to give the male chromosomes to Mary because that would make him human and not God. Yet in that same sentence he himself is limiting the creation powers of God. This is the same God which created the universe, Adam and Eve from nothing yet he couldn't implant the 23 male chromosomes into the womb of Mary ?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Just saying you are a believer or believing just because doesn't make you a believer. Its easy to profess God with your lips harder with your heart

I think if people actually 100% believed in God and heaven, etc. they would find not "sinning" a lot easier. To me, they keep telling themselves it's real until they actually believe it. Things in their heads, are messages from God.

 

[Trequartista]

This thread is still banging it seems.

I am too busy at the moment to participate

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I think if people actually 100% believed in God and heaven, etc. they would find not "sinning" a lot easier. To me, they keep telling themselves it's real until they actually believe it. Things in their heads, are messages from God.

That's not true. man's nature pulls towards sin , selfishness , greed, sexual desire etc etc. It is a journey of prayer contemplation and striving daily to better oneself in the love which is God

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

That's not true. man's nature pulls towards sin , selfishness , greed, sexual desire etc etc. It is a journey of prayer contemplation and striving daily to better oneself in the love which is God

But there seems to be no difference between the believers and the non-believers when it comes to sinning; they do the same things (not all, obviously) yet the believer should be motivated by punishment & reward. If you look at a group of believers and non-believers just by their actions, you couldn't separate them, I believe (no, I don't have proof).