Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (43 Viewers)

[AndreaCristiano]

Yes, because they are poor, scared people.

Most religious people are the bottom of the class system, they have nothing, so they look to the Heavens and say "there must be a reason" when there really is not.

I'm not at the bottom and neither is conte, Buffon, alessandro del pier etc etc and they are all believers. Conte kisses holy water before each game in the sign of the cross. Whats your explanation there. they are well off so they are thankful? Station in life has nothing to do with belief

 

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[ßöмßäяðîëя]

The Catholics are the richest organization on the planet, through the control of knowledge and wealth.

Plus, were they always rich? I doubt it.

Plus, I'm speaking about the majority of "believers."

 

[JuveJay]

Italy is the home of the Catholic church...

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

No, Italy is the home of Vatican, which is the most nonsensical, least Christian place on the planet.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Italy is the home of the Catholic church...

That means absolutely nothing, there are more believers in the US than in Italy

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Yea, well there are 310M people in the US, and 30M people there, so take per capita into it, clown.

 

[Nzoric]

Funny, was just reading Antichrist by Nietzsche and then this discussion of the Christian mentality and who it appeals to comes along . I completely agree with him though, slave religion.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Yea, well there are 310M people in the US, and 30M people there, so take per capita into it, clown.

per capita means nothing when 89% of the US identifies themselves as Christian and the percentage is less in italy, clown

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Site that information and I will respond.

Also, I'm talking about Catholics, not mongoloid Christians in general, because that even includes the fucking Mormons.

 

[Nzoric]

What are you guys even talking about?

it's nonsensical to talk about Christianity as a whole entity. If you walk into an Orthodox Church and a Protestant Church it's hard to imagine they belong to the same religious group.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Site that information and I will respond.

Also, I'm talking about Catholics, not mongoloid Christians in general, because that even includes the fucking Mormons.

Here ya go and its from ABC news
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/beliefnet_poll_010718.html

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Oh, I agree...

They are all idiots.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

What are you guys even talking about?

it's nonsensical to talk about Christianity as a whole entity. If you walk into an Orthodox Church and a Protestant Church it's hard to imagine they belong to the same religious group.

The main tenants are the same just because the worship is different

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Here ya go and its from ABC news
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/beliefnet_poll_010718.html

Idiots...

All of them, fucking idiots.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Idiots...

All of them, fucking idiots.

So I show you facts to back up my claim and thats your educated answer..hmmmm who's the idiot

 

[Nzoric]

Oh, I agree...

They are all idiots.

I really don't get your per capita argument. But then again, I don't know what the point of the post exchange between you two are. Whats substance?

 

[Nzoric]

The main tenants are the same just because the worship is different

No, they're actually so far from the same that you can't even believe it. Icons for example, saint worshipping, lighting candles for the dead/alive etc. Cba educating you on your religion to be honest.

Let alone the perception of what and who Jesus Christ actually was. You know, the Three Chapters which led to the Catholic Church splitting up?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I really don't get your per capita argument. But then again, I don't know what the point of the post exchange between you two are. Whats substance?

it was in reference to the Vatican being in Italy someone said thats why Italians are more christian. so I said The US is the most christian nation. He used the per capita and I said it means nothing when its by percentage the most Christian and then showed him a poll

 

[AndreaCristiano]

No, they're actually so far from the same that you can't even believe it. Icons for example, saint worshipping, lighting candles for the dead/alive etc. Cba educating you on your religion to be honest.

Let alone the perception of what and who Jesus Christ actually was. You know, the Three Chapters which led to the Catholic Church splitting up?

I know all that but they all believe that Jesus was the son of God born of a virgin, died and resurrected

 

[Nzoric]

I know all that but they all believe that Jesus was the son of God born of a virgin, died and resurrected

And yet they all disagree on how the human and divine in Jesus Christ relates.