Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (25 Viewers)

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In other words intelligent design IS the only possibility that can make this universe come to existence according to you.

Correct, an outside force must have created it.

 

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[DelpieroForLife]

Correct, an outside force must have created it.

You have just contradicted science, but that is nothing new to you.

Of course your conclusion lead us to conclude that scientists such as Stephen Hawking are actually wasting time exploring all the possibilities?

 

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You have just contradicted science, but that is nothing new to you.

Of course your conclusion lead us to conclude that scientists such as Stephen Hawking are actually wasting time exploring all the possibilities?

Oh noooo, Shall I be smited for my clear blasphemy???

What SH is doing is looking for something that cannot be encapsulated by science. It is beyond the tunnel-visioned limitations of science.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

Oh noooo, Shall I be smited for my clear blasphemy???

Only religion smite people for contradicting it, when you contradict science it just make you look stupid or at best ignorant.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

What SH is doing is looking for something that cannot be encapsulated by science. It is beyond the tunnel-visioned limitations of science.

So he is so wrong to seek answers that can't be encapsulated by science? And he is more wrong because he didn't realize that his answers can't be encapsulated by science (whatever that means)?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

God created us to worship him. He didn't need to do it, but he did. So now that we're here, we're responsible for our actions. Clear and irresistibly simple.

I'm sure such an answer won't satisfy you, but this is the reality.

Why does he want to be worshipped? Does he have a low self-esteem or something?

TO believers, belief in God is self-evident. Our very existence is proof of His existence.

This post is idiotic in all ways!

 

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So he is so wrong to seek answers that can't be encapsulated by science? And he is more wrong because he didn't realize that his answers can't be encapsulated by science (whatever that means)?

I wouldn't say "wrong" at all. He does a lot of interesting work, some of which continually enlightens us more about the universe and further allows us to be in amazement at God's creation.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

I wouldn't say "wrong" at all. He does a lot of interesting work, some of which continually enlightens us more about the universe and further allows us to be in amazement at God's creation.

How can he provide proper output while he is considering a possibility which is 0% according to you?

 

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How can he provide proper output while he is considering a possibility which is 0% according to you?

He is looking into how the world came about. During his studies he discovers many interesting things about the universe. There is 0% possibility that the world was created by other than God, but it doesn't mean atheist and theist scientists will not discover things about the universe that amaze believers.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Correct, an outside force must have created it.

Oh wow! You are worse than a fundamental atheist.

I'm done here. Good luck in your belief in a god, let alone the right god.

 

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Oh wow! You are worse than a fundamental atheist.

I'm done here. Good luck in your belief in a god, let alone the right god.

Good luck in your disbelief in God and remember one day you won't be here.

Thanks for coming

 

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Why does he want to be worshipped? Does he have a low self-esteem or something?




This post is idiotic in all ways!

Appreciate the compliments

 

[DelpieroForLife]

He is looking into how the world came about. During his studies he discovers many interesting things about the universe. There is 0% possibility that the world was created by other than God, but it doesn't mean atheist and theist scientists will not discover things about the universe that amaze believers.

Is it really that hard to understand

Let me simplify it for you...

1) Stephen Hawking is looking to investigate how the world came to existence.

2) He doesn't make any prior assumption on how the world came to existence, opening the door for all the possibilities.

3) You think there is 0% possibility that universe is not a result of intelligent creator named God.

4) You MUST think Stephen Hawking is wrong by exploring all the possibilities while in fact the universe comes to existence by God creation.

5) Stephen Hawking is WRONG according to you yet you find his results interesting and you agree with some of his finding eventhough you think (according to 4) he is exploring invalid possibilities.

How on earth can you explain (5) to me?

 

[DelpieroForLife]

Good luck in your disbelief in God and remember one day you won't be here.

Thanks for coming

I'm not sure if you think this kind of attitude is cool or something but it certainly add nothing to your poor argument.

 

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Is it really that hard to understand

Let me simplify it for you...

1) Stephen Hawking is looking to investigate how the world came to existence.

2) He doesn't make any prior assumption on how the world came to existence, opening the door for all the possibilities.

3) You think there is 0% possibility that universe is not a result of intelligent creator named God.

4) You MUST think Stephen Hawking is wrong by exploring all the possibilities while in fact the universe comes to existence by God creation.

5) Stephen Hawking is WRONG according to you yet you find his results interesting and you agree with some of his finding eventhough you think (according to 4) he is exploring invalid possibilities.

How on earth can you explain (5) to me?

5 is easy to explain. Even though what he is doing will not bear ultimate fruit in that he won't discover how the world was created, but there is still benefit in what he does as certain discoveries help us appreciate the amazing nature of God's creation even further.

 

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I'm not sure if you think this kind of attitude is cool or something but it certainly add nothing to your poor argument.

I really care not what it adds or removes from my argument. But I mean it when I say to him and to you that one day we won't be alive, and that's the day some will regret, and some will be grateful.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

5 is easy to explain. Even though what he is doing will not bear ultimate fruit in that he won't discover how the world was created, but there is still benefit in what he does as certain discoveries help us appreciate the amazing nature of God's creation even further.

Can one reach valid results based on invalid assumptions or by missing an absolutely valid one?

 

[DelpieroForLife]

I really care not what it adds or removes from my argument. But I mean it when I say to him and to you that one day we won't be alive, and that's the day some will regret, and some will be grateful.

Which God do you believe in?

 

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Can one reach valid results based on invalid assumptions or by missing an absolutely valid one?

Ohh is someone trying to introduce logical fallacies here

No they can't, which is why in the end his ultimate goal is fruitless (as science, being limited, will never be able to discover the true nature of the world, it is only a torch and a large dark valley), but there nonetheless are interesting parts of his work along the way to his dead end failure.

 

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Which God do you believe in?

The creator of everything, including time and space.