Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (22 Viewers)

[ZoSo]

You expect me to watch a 14 minute video attacking religion? That's the best you can come up with?

Fuck Christopher Hitchens, he's an arsehole, and not for his religious views, i could care less about them. His political views show what a huge arsehole he is. Hope he gets killed by a bomb really, maybe then he'd learn to have some fucking compassion.

On second thought, ya he wouldn't learn anything if he dies, now would he?

That motherfucker IS dead. But that guy was a fucking asshole. Glad he's dead tbh. I hope he's having fun rotting in hell for eternity. Although it's probably where he would want to be anyway, as far away from God as possible.

 

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[Ford Prefect]

"what this?"

"pope benedict the 16th"

"and what does that mean?"

"poison"

 

[WΏΏdy?]

Giovinco would have been sacrificed by those people back then.

Sacrifices are only accepted if healthy, beautiful and worthy. Giovinco might make it on the undercard.

 

[Fred]

Good riddance, we don't need insensitive people like him who would support the bombing of innocent people under the arrogant, obnoxious pretense of "bringing them western civilization" while all the coalition forces did, was bomb Iraq to oblivion and make it a worse shithole than it was before.

 

[ZoSo]

"what this?"

"pope benedict the 16th"

"and what does that mean?"

"poison"

Having fun by yourself there buddy?

Good riddance, we don't need insensitive people like him who would support the bombing of innocent people under the arrogant, obnoxious pretense of "bringing them western civilization" while all the coalition forces did, was bomb Iraq to oblivion and make it a worse shithole than it was before.

He was a stain on humanity.

Here's one for you jasper:

An atheist was walking through the woods.
'What majestic trees'!
'What powerful rivers'!
'What beautiful animals'!
He said to himself.

As he was walking alongside the river, he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 12-foot grizzly bear charging towards him.

He ran as fast as he could up the path... He looked over his shoulder & saw that the bear was closing in on him.

He looked over his shoulder again and the bear was even closer. He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw that the bear was right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him.

At that instant the Atheist cried out, 'Oh my God!'

Time Stopped.
The bear froze.
The forest was silent.

As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky. 'You deny my existence for all these years, teach others I don't exist and even credit creation to cosmic accident.' 'Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?
The atheist looked directly into the light, 'It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask you to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps you could make the BEAR a Christian'?

'Very Well,' said the voice.

The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head & spoke:

'Lord bless this food for which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You leaving tonight?

Bang the shit outta that Air Hostess sheik Unless you are travelling via Air India, in that case pop some half a dozen sleeping pills and don't forget to guy your own newspaper before boarding!

Bon Voyage.

Yeah I'm leaving tonight.

Emirates, biatch!

Do all atheists avoid replying/answering posts/questions on purpose? I don't even know what that has to do with what you and I posted.

Not at all. In fact, most atheists are more willing to have an open discussion regarding god and religion. Usually, then believers are the ones who avoid getting into those discussions. They give excuses like "you just gotta have faith", "it's a personal belief", "everyone should have the right to believe in whatever they want" or some stuff like that as a discussion-ender.

meh

@Sheikh, leaving for San Francisco today? Lucky arsehole, enjoy your time there!!

Aye. Thanks mate. I know I'll have a good time when I'm meeting swag and Kyle there.

 

[ZoSo]

Not at all. In fact, most atheists are more willing to have an open discussion regarding god and religion. Usually, then believers are the ones who avoid getting into those discussions. They give excuses like "you just gotta have faith", "it's a personal belief", "everyone should have the right to believe in whatever they want" or some stuff like that as a discussion-ender.

But I don't even get what you said then and you didn't reply to my post. You can't say I have to say something first before you reply.

 

[Ford Prefect]

That motherfucker IS dead. But that guy was a fucking asshole. Glad he's dead tbh. I hope he's having fun rotting in hell for eternity. Although it's probably where he would want to be anyway, as far away from God as possible.

Its great to see your christian morals come out here....you could always forgive him.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You expect me to watch a 14 minute video attacking religion? That's the best you can come up with?



That motherfucker IS dead. But that guy was a fucking asshole. Glad he's dead tbh. I hope he's having fun rotting in hell for eternity. Although it's probably where he would want to be anyway, as far away from God as possible.

If a 14-minute video is not enough, then feel free to read through the whole thread from the beginning. A LOT of good points by a lot of good posters showcasing different views, perspectives, and different criticisms. You should perhaps put aside a whole day to do that.

Here's one for you jasper:

So Christians are animals who say prayers before committing a sin?

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But I don't even get what you said then and you didn't reply to my post. You can't say I have to say something first before you reply.

What I'm saying is that, before posting an analysis of atheists and why they reject god and religion, you should focus on trying to find proper evidence to prove the existence of god. Because if you do, then there won't be any more atheists.

 

[JuveJay]

That motherfucker IS dead. But that guy was a fucking asshole. Glad he's dead tbh. I hope he's having fun rotting in hell for eternity. Although it's probably where he would want to be anyway, as far away from God as possible.

I think you're missing the point, he doesn't believe in any of that.

 

[WΏΏdy?]

Yeah I'm leaving tonight.

Emirates, biatch!


Not at all. In fact, most atheists are more willing to have an open discussion regarding god and religion. Usually, then believers are the ones who avoid getting into those discussions. They give excuses like "you just gotta have faith", "it's a personal belief", "everyone should have the right to believe in whatever they want" or some stuff like that as a discussion-ender.


Aye. Thanks mate. I know I'll have a good time when I'm meeting swag and Kyle there.

Emirates May you not blow before you meet kyle.

 

[ZoSo]

Its great to see your christian morals come out here....you could always forgive him.

I don't give a fuck when it comes to that asshole (or you for that matter). He was a fucking shit stain on society.

If a 14-minute video is not enough, then feel free to read through the whole thread from the beginning. A LOT of good points by a lot of good posters showcasing different views, perspectives, and different criticisms. You should perhaps put aside a whole day to do that.

It's not the 14 minute video, it's the fact that it's a comedy and is trying to poke fun at religion. I find that quite distasteful.

So Christians are animals who say prayers before committing a sin?

Not quite.

What I'm saying is that, before posting an analysis of atheists and why they reject god and religion, you should focus on trying to find proper evidence to prove the existence of god. Because if you do, then there won't be any more atheists.

What do you mean before? It sounds like you expect me to prove to you that God exists (which he does but no athiest can fathom). You're just avoiding what I wrote. I can just easily say (if you do) before trying post an analysis of why religious people believe, find solid concrete evidence that God doesn't exist. You can't use to that avoid something.

 

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[ZoSo]

There's a difference between being proud & grateful and gloating numbnuts. How much more fucking idiotic and dumb can one possibly be? wow man, do you actually have an IQ of 3?

 

[Ford Prefect]

There's a difference between being proud & grateful and gloating numbnuts. How much more fucking idiotic and dumb can one possibly be? wow man, do you actually have an IQ of 3?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pr...w&biw=1280&bih=596&sei=FkdnT-HNHJOn8gPOhdyoCA



Responding to a logical falicy by calling the person stupid doesn't make the falicy go away.

 

[ZoSo]

oh my god you are literally fucking retarded. can someone else explain it to this guy, maybe he'll understand then.

 

[Ford Prefect]

oh my god you are literally fucking retarded. can someone else explain it to this guy, maybe he'll understand then.

Its very simple - Pride is a deadly sin....how can a christian be proud? Its the same thing

 

[ZoSo]

Its very simple - Pride is a deadly sin....how can a christian be proud? Its the same thing

Surely you can't be that stupid. I'll say it again just in case you aren't trolling.

Sin pride = self pride away from god i.e. gloating
Christian pride = proud to have god in my/our/their etc life/lives and being thankful of god.

 

[Ford Prefect]

Surely you can't be that stupid. I'll say it again just in case you aren't trolling.

Sin pride = self pride away from god i.e. gloating
Christian pride = proud to have god in my/our/their etc life/lives and being thankful of god.

Find me a citation that proves your point (I know proof is a strange concept to you), I have the dictionary on my side and standard - non bonkers- logic on my side that dictates one meaning for the word 'pride'....Pride and Gloating are very different things. If the deadly sin was gloating then I wouldn't make the point.

 

[ZoSo]

Find me a citation that proves your point (I know proof is a strange concept to you), I have the dictionary on my side and standard - non bonkers- logic on my side that dictates one meaning for the word 'pride'....Pride and Gloating are very different things. If the deadly sin was gloating then I wouldn't make the point.

In almost every list, pride (Latin, superbia), or hubris (Greek), is considered the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins, and the source of the others. It is identified as a desire to be more important or attractive than others, failing to acknowledge the good work of others, and excessive love of self (especially holding self out of proper position toward God). Dante's definition was "love of self perverted to hatred and contempt for one's neighbour." In Jacob Bidermann's medieval miracle play, Cenodoxus, pride is the deadliest of all the sins and leads directly to the damnation of the titulary famed Parisian doctor. In perhaps the best-known example, the story of Lucifer, pride (his desire to compete with God) was what caused his fall from Heaven, and his resultant transformation into Satan. In Dante's Divine Comedy, the penitents were forced to walk with stone slabs bearing down on their backs to induce feelings of humility.

good enough you utter fucking moron? I honestly can't believe you are this fucking stupid. I hope you know who Dante is. And FYI, my mum's aunty & uncle own his castle & museum in Italy. and no, I'm not gloating. They got it because in their earlier younger years they used to hang around the witch doctor that previously owned it and inherited it. He bought it because he was rich from receiving payments for cleansing clothing and other items of evil spirits. He was born with the 'third eye', a piece of skin/membrane covering his face. this apparently is supposed to let people see evil spirits and stuff like that. all that stuff is not bullshit and is just one thing that proves that god is real. the occult and all that stuff is real too and not something you mess with.