do you satisfy our management's recent works? (1 Viewer)

[- vOnAm -]

JUVE management not in any specific order:
Great Moves:
1. Tiago
2. Iaquinta
3. Criscito, Nocerino, Molinaro buy back
4. Buffon and Trez staying
5. Capital increase

Bad Moves:
1. Releasing Adrian Mutu
2. Releasing the English translator of Juve.com
3. Surrendered to punishments more based on media hype.

 

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[Kosta]

JUVE management not in any specific order:
Great Moves:
1. Tiago
2. Iaquinta
3. Criscito, Nocerino, Molinaro buy back
4. Buffon and Trez staying
5. Capital increase

Bad Moves:
1. Releasing Adrian Mutu
2. Releasing the English translator of Juve.com
3. Surrendered to punishments more based on media hype.

 

[X Æ A-12]

if they sign 2 good center backs then i like them defense is important!! without a good defense then you might concede some goals!!!

 

[Cronios]

I still think they are noobs,
we havent signed any really good players yet,
they signed decent players but spent a lot of money for them.
They released too many players, players that could be used as bargain tools, or we could at least make a slight profit selling them at minimum fee.
The problem with Treze,Buffon,Camo and etc was created by them, so i expect them to solve it! Its their duty, as we shouldnt have a problem in the first case...
Even if we choose to sell some of them, i am certain our bargain skills will not help us to make a decent profit...
They signed a half decent coach, nothing spectacular here either...
he is hardly Juve material...
Even if the sign Milito, i wont be impressed, he is not Terry or smth

I still believe our managers, despite having 100mil to spend and Juve's prestigious name to support them, are incapable of signing any players like Saviola, Ribery, Klose, Henry, Chivu, Mancini, Giuly, Diego, Mexes, Tore, Sissoko, Mavuba players that would help us build the team, you guys are dreaming of...

Things could be worse though, we could have signed, Emo,Canna or... worse.
But still the likes of Almiron,Iaquinta and Boumsong cannot lead Juve back where we belong...

 

[Lion]

I still think they are noobs,
we havent signed any real good players yet,
they signed decent players but spent a lot of money for them.
They released too many players, players that could be used as bargain tools, or we could at least make a slight profit selling them at minimum fee.
The problem with Treze,Buffon,Camo and etc was created by them, so i expect them to solve it! Its their duty, as we shouldnt have a problem in the first case...
Even if we choose to sell some of them, i am certain our bargain skills will not help us to make a decent profit...
They signed a half decent coach, nothing spectacular here either...
he is hardly Juve material...
Even if the sign Milito, i wont be impressed, he is not Terry or smth

I still believe our managers, despite having 100mil to spend and Juve's prestigious name to support them, are incapable of signing any players like Saviola, Ribery, Klose, Henry, Chivu, Mancini, Giuly, Mexes, Tore, Sissoko, Mavuba players that would help us build the team, you guys are dreaming of...

Things could be worse though, we could have signed, Emo,Canna or... worse.
But still the likes of Almiron,Iaquinta and Boumsong cannot lead Juve back where we belong...

false

 

[DelpieroForLife]

NO

 

[Gill_juve]

I still think they are noobs,
we havent signed any really good players yet,
they signed decent players but spent a lot of money for them.
They released too many players, players that could be used as bargain tools, or we could at least make a slight profit selling them at minimum fee.
The problem with Treze,Buffon,Camo and etc was created by them, so i expect them to solve it! Its their duty, as we shouldnt have a problem in the first case...
Even if we choose to sell some of them, i am certain our bargain skills will not help us to make a decent profit...
They signed a half decent coach, nothing spectacular here either...
he is hardly Juve material...
Even if the sign Milito, i wont be impressed, he is not Terry or smth

I still believe our managers, despite having 100mil to spend and Juve's prestigious name to support them, are incapable of signing any players like Saviola, Ribery, Klose, Henry, Chivu, Mancini, Giuly, Diego, Mexes, Tore, Sissoko, Mavuba players that would help us build the team, you guys are dreaming of...

Things could be worse though, we could have signed, Emo,Canna or... worse.
But still the likes of Almiron,Iaquinta and Boumsong cannot lead Juve back where we belong...

you expect them to buy ronaldinho or something??

 

[Cuti]

They Wrong moves :

1. Exchanging Mutu with Bojinov. (Really Stupid One!)
2. Letting Zambro and Canna leave the club so easily. (Worst)
3. Boumsong ??
4. I think they should have treat better with Bettega and Tardelli.
5. They didn't buy one world class player.
6. Juventus.com (english section)

1) had to be done cause they thought Trezeguet would leave, and needed the money to cut down on losses
2) What did you want them to do chain their legs to the gate? Also for money-> wages and alos money received from transfer
3) Who else would have come for that price, to a team that was in the middle of a crisis, also he did quite well for us, and scored goals.
4) Tardelli and Bettega argued with each other, so rather than take sides they let both of them go
5) It is still June, the market doesn't open for 3 or 4 days, give them a chance, till at least mid july.
6) That is the least of our problems at the moment, you don't understand Italian either ask someone to translate or go and learn the language.


Go watch Barca, and stop being such a gloryhunter

 

[Boksic]

if they sign 2 good center backs then i like them defense is important!! without a good defense then you might concede some goals!!!

seriously!!??? i hadn't thought about that

 

[ESS-Juventino]

U just HAD to let Messi score didnt u?

Ya. Exactly that is the case that came to my mind. I think he is the next wave in football.

 

[Azzurri7]

They've done some excellent good steps our mang. I hope they remain this way, though am still sad about Balza thing. That was a mistake. a big one.

 

[ESS-Juventino]

1) had to be done cause they thought Trezeguet would leave, and needed the money to cut down on losses
2) What did you want them to do chain their legs to the gate? Also for money-> wages and alos money received from transfer
3) Who else would have come for that price, to a team that was in the middle of a crisis, also he did quite well for us, and scored goals.
4) Tardelli and Bettega argued with each other, so rather than take sides they let both of them go
5) It is still June, the market doesn't open for 3 or 4 days, give them a chance, till at least mid july.
6) That is the least of our problems at the moment, you don't understand Italian either ask someone to translate or go and learn the language.


Go watch Barca, and stop being such a gloryhunter

Be Cool. That's just I think. You can be agree or not!

 

[Cronios]

you expect them to buy ronaldinho or something??

Where did i mentioned Ronaldinho??

 

[francesco]

wait? so hating secco doesnt make me a true juve fan? theres more to juve than secco, i believe secco has made some fatal moves for the worse of juve, which brings me to protest against him, does that still make me anti juve?

u wana talk about not being a true juve fan, ask some of the other so called fans on here who support 10 clubs at the same time


like i said secco is getting too much credit for the work that was done by others, not just secco alone. in addition trez did not stay on the words of secco, but bettega.

secco is getting too much credit for the work done by others u say? oh well sorry i misunderstood u.. i didnt realise u were part of the juventus board who travels around europe and negotiates for players. people on here are right... u really think you are an insider for the club and that you know soo much more than the rest of us about whats going on behind the scenes... fact is you are just badass devil who lives in ''chimentis house''.. not badass devil - director of football

 

[- vOnAm -]

I still think they are noobs,
we havent signed any really good players yet,
they signed decent players but spent a lot of money for them.
They released too many players, players that could be used as bargain tools, or we could at least make a slight profit selling them at minimum fee.
The problem with Treze,Buffon,Camo and etc was created by them, so i expect them to solve it! Its their duty, as we shouldnt have a problem in the first case...
Even if we choose to sell some of them, i am certain our bargain skills will not help us to make a decent profit...
They signed a half decent coach, nothing spectacular here either...
he is hardly Juve material...
Even if the sign Milito, i wont be impressed, he is not Terry or smth

I still believe our managers, despite having 100mil to spend and Juve's prestigious name to support them, are incapable of signing any players like Saviola, Ribery, Klose, Henry, Chivu, Mancini, Giuly, Diego, Mexes, Tore, Sissoko, Mavuba players that would help us build the team, you guys are dreaming of...

Things could be worse though, we could have signed, Emo,Canna or... worse.
But still the likes of Almiron,Iaquinta and Boumsong cannot lead Juve back where we belong...

Where did you get that Idea?
Trez and Camo both didn't want to join Juve in Serie B.
Buffon said that he missed CL and top football competition while we were playing at Serie B. Those are in no way influenced from our board.

Even Del Piero said that its best to spread the cash than load it for a single star. Although I do agree we should be going for Chivu, but considering big clubs are after him it would be difficult to convince the player.

 

[Cronios]

Trezequet and Camo have been around for a decade, no matter what they say, its pretty obvious to me, they love this bianconero jersey,
we have been through difficult times and our managers did "what ever possible" to keep those guys.
It was their choice,
-they either did the wrong choice trying to keep unmotivated players, impossible to stay,
-or they did the wrong approach, they probably failed to find their soft spots.
Their fault anyway, dont try to excuse them.
Trezequet asked for some very specific things, he said "i will stay if",
he is not a child, he knows what he wants,
the managers should make a choice to give it to him,
or give him away...
I blame them for the circus and i blame Treze for letting it go public.

As for Camo, its a different case, he acts strangely anyway, he hasnt got stable caracter, its pretty obvious, our managers should have seen that.


Juventus has lost a lot of her prestige because of calciopoli,
i dont blame the current management for that,
Juventus never had Inter's, Real's,Barca's,Milan's,Man Un's and most recently Chelsea's cash (Bayern too? ), available for transfers.
But we somehow managed to cope with them and remain competitive,
making wise choices, early pre-contracts, brilliant scouter work, smart trades/loans etc
With the new management, i get to see anything similar, we are getting owned from clubs like Fiorentina,we have released so many players that would have bought Milito's contract and their wages would have paid 3x times Trezeqeut's wage and we are still struggling to finish those deals.
Our negotiator skills are far from decent,
we cannot sell players, we cannot attract interest, we are not a convincing power in the transfer market and i m not comparing us to the above mentioned teams,
i m comparing us with teams like Fiorentina and inferior teams that getting the chance to sign players like Mascerano (irrelevant ex) for the price we gave for Almiron.
They are plenty of players out there and the above teams cannot buy them all,
besides we have currently available more cash than ever.
Where are the big signings?
How many starters we bought, how much cash we spent?
I have the feeling that smaller teams are toying with us,
we are not in serie b anymore, we are back in business, we are JUVENTUS ffs
we are building a team for the future, Almiron,Tiago,Iaquinta,Boumsong,Grygera etc will not be world class players any time soon, maybe never,
we are not building a world class team, we are building a decent team,
are you ppl so convinced that those players, our future backbone will carry Juve to the CL the years to come and win titles for us???
This is the best Juve can do??
Since we have chosen to keep our stars and off loaded all the junk we had (for FREE!! ) , we should go and bring some quality players,
we inseed, brought some average player, because we didnt want to pay 5-10 mil more (in total) and i m afraid because we didnt have the necessary convincing means to do so.
Our managers said they will do whatever necessary to bring us back were we belong and IMHO so far i m not convinced of their "sacrifices"
i dont know why you people are so jubilant about.
I think we could have done much better, if we had a decent management.
Time will be the final judge, at this point all it matters is the results,
sometimes you may do the wrong choice
but you also might get lucky and proven right in the end.
I m not pleased with our manager's "performance" just yet,
i dont think they will buy two quality CBs, i dont think they will buy a good playmaker.
I hope they will prove me wrong, my best wishes to the club,
but so far, things doest look as they should, if you ask me...

 

[- vOnAm -]

I think you can only see Established players. I don't think you can understand that being the best club doesn't mean you have to buy a team made-up of world class players. You buy players who the coach thinks will gell together, a mixed of well known capable players with perhaps less known workers.

I think you underestimate the condition our management face after calciopoli. I repeat Trez and Camo wanted to leave this sinking ship, sure Trez had a change of heart and so did Camo along the way. But you can't say they wanted to leave because of the management.

I don't think our transfers are bad buys, and as far as I know we've only let go of Tudor and Kovac on Free transfers. No friggin deal, not many wanted to buy Tudor anyways or Kovac, and getting rid of their wages is good enough considering their age.

 

[Rami]

Happy about

- Contract Renewals of Del Piero, Trez and Zebina
- they will convince nedved to stay

Not happy about

- bad press communication
- we didn't sign a world class player like they promised
- we dind't sign 2 central defenders just yet

And i'm accepting these decisions:

- DD wanted to leave, so don't blame them for that!!!
- They give Ranieri the coaching job, but i want to wait until I see results for
saying that was a good decision

Add backing out from appealing to the bad.

 

[Rami]

Maybe if they hire Badass things would improve

 

[LEC]

...würde eigentlich mal gerne einiges in Deutsch schreiben, damit ich auch wirklich in die Tiefe gehen könnte...und ich könnte es auch auf x-posts aufteilen, damit ich eeeendlich auf 1000 komme... ..aber eben es wird wieder strassen-englisch..

"they let Mutu left, gave up the chase of Mascherano, had no confidence in them to keep Buffon"

Mutu: was not involved in the farsopoli-transfers, they wanted to sell him before that - maybe the only mistake they made till now because he has quality. but: he couldnt play in our starting 11 (Camo/Nedved/Alex/Trez) - discussion over imo

Mascherano: very strange right situation with his agency called MSI Foot (also tevez), i liked him at river but now hes a liverpool player (same for sissoko) - discussion over imo

Bojinov: same as mutu - he cant play in the starting 11 - but his veeery talented young boy who needs to play - discussion over imo

Buffon: worlds best goalkeeper loves to play in the second division ?!!??! - discussion over imo

Boumsong: we needed a cd - and we got a WC-Winner - in Serie B - discussion over imo

Trez/Camo: same as Buffon

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"letting Bettega leave, was a mistake IMO. after all he was the one who convinced Trezegol to stay"

Bettega: the chapter "triade" - certanly Bettega belongs to - is over. finito. - discussion over imo

Tardelli: never liked him and for me hes a Interisti (like C. Zanetti...) - discussion over imo

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"Extending Buffon's contract isn't exactly something we should be thanking the club for; promising to buy players isn't exactly convincing someone, if you get what I mean.

i know what you mean but imo you are wrong. because in in this time of calcio history it means a lot (5mio €/year x 5 = 25)...same for trez and camo...

Trez resigned, and we all now know that Bettega was the main man behind that so again...nothing to thank the current management for. Though if they manage to sign Milito and one other player, not connected to us then yes, I'm satisfied with the current management."

again: imo you are wrong - like camo today on tuttosport "ringrazie Cobolli per le belle parole" - i dont wanna say Cobolli/Secco is the man but trez said "with the influx of new money and the new Coach everything became clearer and we found the grounds for an agreement" see channel 4.
- discussion over imo

"Though if they manage to sign Milito and one other player, not connected to us then yes, I'm satisfied with the current management."

there we go...int:

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"They Wrong moves :

1. Exchanging Mutu with Bojinov. (Really Stupid One!)
2. Letting Zambro and Canna leave the club so easily. (Worst)
3. Boumsong ??
4. I think they should have treat better with Bettega and Tardelli.
5. They didn't buy one world class player.
6. Juventus.com (english section)"

1. see above
2. u cant hold the whole squad in serie b. zambrotta is probaly the best left defender on our planet, right defender, RF, LF...and he changed to Barca (last summer best team in europe - CL) and not in italy - it hurts but its okay imo
cannavaro: hes 33 and the u become a call from the worlds succesfull club - if u played the whole career in italy u must consider this chance - discussion over imo
3. see above
4. imo nope
5. the mercato is not over yet - imo we dont need a star

anyway i am very satisfied with our new board so far - sorry for that!

1. we kept most of our REAL stars - Buffon, Zebina, Camoranesi, Nedved, Trezeguet, Del Piero = still more world-class players then most of europes clubs have

2. Thiago: 3 scudettis in the last 3 years, CL prooved
3. Salihamidzic: CL-Winner, 6 scudettis with bayern, good backup
4. Almiron: as quoted before: one of the best midfielders last year in serie a
5. Iaquinta: WC-Winner
6. Criscito: best cd over 3 classes in U-x