Diego vs. Modric (23 Viewers)

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king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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Ален;1788489 said:
Domenech won it with a great team that had a great leader while Dunga won with a very average team in which there was no place for Diego in the starting XI. That's what Vlatko has been telling you.

Although, there can be no comparisson between a WC and Coppa America.
This exactly is the point.

Diego is just great. His splendid performances with Bremen would suffice to realize it. He doesn't get his place at his NT just because Dunga doesn't believe in him. Trez is not Domenech's choice either but he sure is better than Anelka and many other strikers who are playing for the France NT.

Not to forget that getting a starting spot at Brasil NT's midfield is too difficult. Much more difficult than getting one at Croatia national team.
 

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Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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I think Diego is not getting his chance with Brasil because he's an egocentric player, in football terms. Everything spins around him. He must have the ball all the time and he excells only when the tactic is set up to suit him.
That's kinda bad for the team because if he won't perform the team won't perform. It was similar with Riquelme who also can't play in any other role but a free role where he's the alpha and omega.

In Brazil it's impossible to give this role to Diego and i guess that's why he's not playing a lot.

In this Juve i think it could work. Looking at our midfield one can easily notice that there is a lack of talent and there won't be ego clashes if Diego is given a free role, like Zidane used to have.
But then again, we must remember how "well" Juve did in Zidane's last 3 years with us when he was everything in our midfield (our team, actually) and when the guys next to him weren't football wizards exactly. In his last years Zidane frequently played below par matches and the entire team suffered a lot because of that.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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Ален;1788506 said:
I think Diego is not getting his chance with Brasil because he's an egocentric player, in football terms. Everything spins around him. He must have the ball all the time
I honestly would die to have such player at Juve.


Ален;1788506 said:
and he excells only when the tactic is set up to suit him.
That's kinda bad for the team because if he won't perform the team won't perform.
This is the impact of BIG players on the whole team. Same applies for Gerrard, Kaka', Henry and many others among them Zizou as you said. They all have/had their roles at their NT though.


Ален;1788506 said:
It was similar with Riquelme who also can't play in any other role but a free role where he's the alpha and omega.

Riquelme isn't even close to Diego in terms of skills, abilities and talent. The problem with Riquelme is that his off matches are too much more than the ones he excels in.


Ален;1788506 said:
In Brazil it's impossible to give this role to Diego and i guess that's why he's not playing a lot.
Diego is very young. He will get this role and it just is a matter of time.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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I think Diego is the better player. Obviously he's proved more on the big stage, but if i were a Juve fan i'd rather take Modric if i had that choice. Diego would need the team to adapt to a whole new formation where the tactics would be based on him, while modric can play aside a dm like sissoko for example
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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i am seriously curious about your thoughts and intentions behind wanting bastian schweinsteiger.

i do get to see him pretty often due to living in germany, but i do not know what makes him so adorable.

so tell me, what qualities does schweini have, that would be needed in juve ?
(apart from him matching better to the winger positions, than diego and modric)
I definitely agree, he seems to be rated way too highly in these forums.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Oh he did get the chance, he played the first game from the start. He was so effective, he got subbed at half time. Then he warmed the bench and played after Wagner Love, Baptista and Robinho had their kicks and the games were already won. They say he was tired after the Bundesliga season. :howler:

I'm not saying he can, but at least he played on the biggest stage with a small country and had pretty good results.

Stupidity or not, he won the tournament.

What are you trying to prove here? You just fucking said it, played with a small country... Diego plays for the Brazil NT and it happens that the best football players in the world are currently playing in his position. That doesn't mean he failed ffs.

Watching too many games doesn't mean you know what's right from wrong and vice versa. Diego is the better player and it's a fact whether we all like it or not. And there's really no comparison between the two players. Modric hasn't proved anything yet. He's not even in the top 15 midfielders to say the least.

I wont call you biased or anything, but seriously get your facts straight and stop hiding behind Modric's five good matches with Croatia. He's very talented again, no one can deny that, but just don't compare him with an extraordinary player like Diego.

What next? He'll play decent match with Tottenham and you'll make him better player than Nedved.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Copa America 2007. There was no Kaka or Ronaldinho. Still, he did not play, but warmed the bench for Julio Baptista, Wagner Love and Robinho. Brasil won it in the end. :)
So that's your argument for taking Modric over Diego?

What if Juande Ramos benches Modric because he needs the team to be more compact? Could we then say that Modric isn't as good as Julio Baptista then?

Diego is the better player just like Rafa Marquez is better than Gooch Onyewu, but that's because I'm unbiased enough to acknowledge it.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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I was actually dumbfounded when Vlatko said he would take Schweini over Diego. I mean, what if Vlatko was Werder Bremens owner, they would roast him alive to even think that, hehe.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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I was actually dumbfounded when Vlatko said he would take Schweini over Diego. I mean, what if Vlatko was Werder Bremens owner, they would roast him alive to even think that, hehe.
They'd be lining up with their pitch forks in a quest to take their club back, that's for sure.
 

memo

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Nov 18, 2005
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That seems to be the case with most of the player we are linked with.

Posters here rant about them without actually watching them play.
talking about that
why zapata isnt playing for udinese lately?
he was great last year and this year udinese is greath without him. . .think about and udinese with zapata really really strong team
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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That seems to be the case with most of the player we are linked with.

Posters here rant about them without actually watching them play.

NO ONE comes close to that Alex'10 poster though.

That dude evaluates football only with his imaginative and impressionable mind it seems ;) He talks shit about talents he never have seen (Subotic and such) only because they arent hyped enough, it seems. And then naturally takes for a fact an unknown kid like Douglas Costa (barely played 3 senior footie games) is great and we should get him, because he is brazlian and the word through the grapevine is he is "awesome" :lol:
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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talking about that
why zapata isnt playing for udinese lately?
he was great last year and this year udinese is greath without him. . .think about and udinese with zapata really really strong team
Both their starting CBs Felipe and him have been injured whole season. They both just got back for this weekends games. The reason they are doing so well despite their star defenders being out, is because Coda is a very good backup (to the point Felipe should fear for his starting spot). And Domizzi has done well too to stand in for them.
 
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