Regardless if he's correct or not: He should look at his own performances before criticizing others & those things need to be talked about internally.
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You are wrong here.
Top side (yes we are one also) players hardly come out with statements like that when there are problems. This proves me that Ciro hasnt shown enough authority and players dont take him seriously enough.
We have played bad games under Lippi and Capello also (and the current situation is not THAT bad, we can still qualify in CL and if we beat Inter in 2 weeks time we are SO back in for the Scudetto). But players never came out with statements like that.
Milan was s-cking in serie a for years, never did the players question Ancelotti publicly. And there are several other examples.
Yes, we might have problems in organization, but your not supposed to show them out, as a player.
Top side (yes we are one also) players hardly come out with statements like that when there are problems. This proves me that Ciro hasnt shown enough authority and players dont take him seriously enough.
We have played bad games under Lippi and Capello also (and the current situation is not THAT bad, we can still qualify in CL and if we beat Inter in 2 weeks time we are SO back in for the Scudetto). But players never came out with statements like that.
Milan was s-cking in serie a for years, never did the players question Ancelotti publicly. And there are several other examples.
Yes, we might have problems in organization, but your not supposed to show them out, as a player.
I wonder if the club official should act and fine Diego? Usually thats the case if a player says something bad about his side. In that, the club will show that statements like that are not tolerated.
Whats your give on this? I dont really wana make a mess out of this, but thats how it often goes. Players do get fines.
Whats your give on this? I dont really wana make a mess out of this, but thats how it often goes. Players do get fines.
True that happened with lahm if am not mistaken few weeks ago.
But I think the management and Ferrara should talk to him first (with the rest of the team) just to make sure these kind of things never to happen again. If that ever happened again whether he or someone said something like that then they should be fined and warned.
But I think the management and Ferrara should talk to him first (with the rest of the team) just to make sure these kind of things never to happen again. If that ever happened again whether he or someone said something like that then they should be fined and warned.
you think the management would know if diego already told ciro that he needs to sort that out ? should diego escalate to the next level and go to the board to say that ciro does not make the needed changes ? it is really difficult in these situations ... just look at the lippi-cassano situation. when you have a coach that clearly acts against logic, there is nothing you can do as player (at least not in the valid range of options you have).
cassano could play better with both legs broken than that joke of simone pepe ...
if a young coach is too stubborn to take advice from others (even when it is players), then he obviously has to learn that the coachs jobs is man management and interaction too and i don't like the thought of ferrara learning with "trial and error" that his stubborness und unwillingness to change his preset "ideas" will lead in bad results and him getting fired.
cassano could play better with both legs broken than that joke of simone pepe ...
if a young coach is too stubborn to take advice from others (even when it is players), then he obviously has to learn that the coachs jobs is man management and interaction too and i don't like the thought of ferrara learning with "trial and error" that his stubborness und unwillingness to change his preset "ideas" will lead in bad results and him getting fired.
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Lippi has won everything (the world cup + champions league + league titles) if he says he don't want Cassano on he's team so people better respect he's decision even if its "according to the public" is a bad choice. He knows best what is good for he's team.
Ferrara is this club coach, the management have hired the guy to do the job. They should give him totall freedom and question him at the end of this season. We're in a professional club here for god's sake everyone should do their job (and their job only).
So diego should shot he's mouth and work on improving he's game only.
Lippi has won everything (the world cup + champions league + league titles) if he says he don't want Cassano on he's team so people better respect he's decision even if its "according to the public" is a bad choice. He knows best what is good for he's team.
Ferrara is this club coach, the management have hired the guy to do the job. They should give him totall freedom and question him at the end of this season. We're in a professional club here for god's sake everyone should do their job (and their job only).
So diego should shot he's mouth and work on improving he's game only.
Thing is though I don't think it's the first time Diego has brought this or a like issue to Ferrara's attention. I remember about a month(maybe more) ago i saw a video of a training session and everyone was around Ciro and Diego and Diego was trying to get a point across to everyone about movement on the pitch or something like that. He used a lot of hand gestures and was talking directly to Ciro with the whole squad around listening.
This leads me to believe that it's not the first time it's been brought up in discussion. The players(Diego at the very least) obviously have a problem understanding the tactics or they aren't satisfied with the playing instructions they receive.
This leads me to believe that it's not the first time it's been brought up in discussion. The players(Diego at the very least) obviously have a problem understanding the tactics or they aren't satisfied with the playing instructions they receive.
Then he might talk to the management "in private" and experss to them he's opinion. But what will he gain if he came out into public and say the things that he said ?!
Once you open that door for players things will get worse. They'll bitch and complain everytime things don't go well with them. That should never happen in any professional club let alone a club as prestigious as Juve.
Once you open that door for players things will get worse. They'll bitch and complain everytime things don't go well with them. That should never happen in any professional club let alone a club as prestigious as Juve.
i agree only-juve, but we do not live in a "should-not-world" 
i do not justify diegos words, but i can understand his situation.
what would you do, if you played in a team and the coach does constantly give crap tactics so you lose ? you will get frustrated soon and then those words will slip out of your mouth, when you are interviewed right after the game, when you are mad. you are not mad at the opponent or the teammates, but mad at the coach who got it wrong again without showing signs of inprovement.
i do not justify diegos words, but i can understand his situation.
what would you do, if you played in a team and the coach does constantly give crap tactics so you lose ? you will get frustrated soon and then those words will slip out of your mouth, when you are interviewed right after the game, when you are mad. you are not mad at the opponent or the teammates, but mad at the coach who got it wrong again without showing signs of inprovement.
It's easy to say he should perform better but really, do you expect him to take the ball from the half way line and score (like against Roma) every game?
When Diego gets the ball, his first touch is always quality... he looks up, and what does he see? People not moving.
Giovinco, Del Piero, Camo et all should be good enough play buddies but as long as we give away the ball too easily (defenders hoofing it up on chance) we will spend too much energy on trying to retrieve it.
More possession just for the sake of keeping possession is what's needed.
When Diego gets the ball, his first touch is always quality... he looks up, and what does he see? People not moving.
Giovinco, Del Piero, Camo et all should be good enough play buddies but as long as we give away the ball too easily (defenders hoofing it up on chance) we will spend too much energy on trying to retrieve it.
More possession just for the sake of keeping possession is what's needed.
i see the problem. we hire a yes man as coach, but we can not allow to have people on the pitch that do not have a sad face and an excuse everytime we lose like ferrara.
players that do not care if the lose and do not speak up when they see mistakes are clearly not what you wanna have if you want to install some winning spirit. lets make a happy face while getting owned everybody and lets all say how it was unfortunate that we lost ... i bet ferrara has a book full of apology-templates and that is probably what they are working on in training .. surely its not football
players that do not care if the lose and do not speak up when they see mistakes are clearly not what you wanna have if you want to install some winning spirit. lets make a happy face while getting owned everybody and lets all say how it was unfortunate that we lost ... i bet ferrara has a book full of apology-templates and that is probably what they are working on in training .. surely its not football