Delle Alpi redevelopment - the costs! (1 Viewer)

Slagathor

Bedpan racing champion
Jul 25, 2001
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Juve to halve capacity

Italian champions Juventus plan to halve the capacity of their Delle Alpi stadium as part of a redevelopment of the Turin venue which will include building 200 executive boxes.

Juventus chief executive officer Antonio Giruado said they expected to sign an agreement with the Turin city council next month which would allow them to begin work on the much maligned stadium. Giruado said the new stadium would keep the modern exterior but added the athletics track would be removed and the new stands would be close to the pitch.

"From the outside it will be as it is today which is an architectural wonder. The outside is the best thing about the current Delle Alpi. Inside however we will produce a stadium for 35.000," said Giruado.

The stadium, in the Turin suburbs, was built for the 1990 World Cup finals but has never won the affection of fans of Juventus and Torino who share the venue. On paper the stadium currently has a capacity of close to 70.000 but is rarely full and only 55.000 fans are expected for the top-of-the-table clash with Inter Milan on Sunday.

The major complaint has been that the open nature of the ground and the distance between the pitch and the stands dilute the atmosphere. Giruado said the re-designed venue would represent a radical improvement for fans. "The fans will feel as though they are on the pitch. There will be 10 metres (30 ft) between the supporters and the players, which means the fans will be closer than they are at the San Siro," he said.

The San Siro stadium in Milan, shared by Inter and AC Milan, enjoys one of the best atmospheres in the game. Giruado said the new venue would be ready by 2006 and would cost € 110 million ($118 million & £ 75 million). The club also plan a new training and entertainment centre which will cost € 130 million ($ 140 million & £ 89 million). Giruado said construction would begin at the end of this year.

Taken from www.eurosport.com
February 28th, 2002


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So this whole joke is going to cost us € 240.000.000,- :eek:
For the record, that's $ 258.000.000,- and £ 164,000,000.-
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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#4
:LOL:

One thing I don't get. Giraudo said they get £10m yearly out of the stadium which is not good enough Inter and Milan do £46m and ManU around £70m. But since they're not reducing capacity, how does that help raise income? Ticket prices doubled or what?
 

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
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#5
good point MArtin. The current avg is about 40,000 per game I believe, so this should actually reduce income!

unless they're planning on something spectacular like £5000 season tickets
 

Jun-hide

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Dec 16, 2002
2,068
#6
++ [ originally posted by Alex ] ++
:LOL:

One thing I don't get. Giraudo said they get £10m yearly out of the stadium which is not good enough Inter and Milan do £46m and ManU around £70m. But since they're not reducing capacity, how does that help raise income? Ticket prices doubled or what?
I guess, Stadio Delle Alpi will be turned into one those American style multi-purpose built stadium which incorportae shopping, leisure facilities. Beside, the ticket price could go up, as more fan friendly venue could increase the demand for ticket. Ripping off the fan, what is new.

Erik, have you got any information on the projected income of the new stadium?
 
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Slagathor

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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#8
Thank you!

As for the new incomes of the stadium. I read somewhere that they will use the newly available space behind the stands for conference rooms and even a mall so they can rent spaces to shopowners. I tried to look up where I read it but failed to find it, sorry! :angel:
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
56,836
#9
A little update on the situation, here's a comment...

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Well......barely a month has passed since the death of Gianni
Agnelli.....since that day at the Delle Alpi when Mr. Puppet Chiusano,
Juve`s so-called president, said that it would be a good idea to name the
new stadium for Gianni Agnelli (even though he said that this is still to
be decided). It was an idea that most Juventini agreed with and most
Juventini really wanted....

Now....barely a months later, the decision has been taken...although
obviously not official.

During yesterday`s presentation on the Club`s accounts, Giraudo spoke about
the new stadium....and a new name for the new stadium...
and while many where probably hoping to hear that it will be named for
Gianni Agnelli, Giraudo made sure that the fans won`t need to dream and
hope anymore....

Giraudo in fact said that Juve were looking towards a partnership with a
big-name "brand" for the Stadium`s name ...(something like "Nike Stadium"
most probably as I guess few companies would be ready to fork out a long
term sum).......which obviously would mean that once that partnership is
broken, we will have a new name for our old stadium.....

But what hurts the most is that Juve lost yet another opportunity (after
the lack of respect towards Scirea and Fortunato...but these are nobodies
when compared to Agnelli) to show that the famous "Stile Juve" still
exists....but instead they went for money.....money which most probably
would then be spent on a some GEA imposed hopeless Baiocco-like player.

The ironic fact is that people like Giraudo and Chiusano would be
practically unheard of and most probably much poorer today if it wasn`t for
Gianni Agnelli......not to mention that it also confirms that his brother
Umberto is nothing else than a greedy capitalist who would probably sell
even his relatives (which is what practically he is doing) for an extra Euro !!

Great move Juve !! Great marketing idea !! Great public relations exercise
!! Any more crocodile tears left for the coming anniversaries...that is if
Juve remember to honour them ??
 

Adrian

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2003
4,247
#10
very high costs involved......we do need a stadium that is good and appealing to attract larger crowds.

35000 isnt enough, i think maybe 40 or 45 would be better.

and it should be named after the great man.


why is it going to take so long??? 3 years is a long time in my books!!

stadiums here in melbourne are built faster.....and fit 55,000 and have a roof that opens and closes......now thats a stadium my friends. imagine playing with the roof closed, conditions always perfect...ground great!!

thats something to consider for this stadium.
 

hoshi

Senior Member
Sep 2, 2002
924
#11
hrm, but the grass in that stadium has always been a problem, ne? everything has a downside
i'm assuming you mean colonial stadium, which certainly looks cool but apparently bites to play on because of the turf
 

DKNY

Junior Member
Feb 2, 2003
68
#12
do u guys notice that, our future capacity 35,000 makes Delle Alpi stadium ineligible to hold CL final:(.
that sucks:fero::fero::fero:!!!~~~

well,BTW i heard the new stadium will kinda like Old Trafford anyway, multi-purpose:angel:
 

Ali

Conditioned
Contributor
Jul 15, 2002
15,492
#13
A measly 35,000 :down: What is this? Are they trying to make it a priority of some sorts to view a Juve game live thereby ensuring that the ticket prices shoot up? 45,000 would have been more realistic and with the new atmosphere it would be :cool: Note to stadia security, ban all those who carry smoke fireworks (whatever they are called) - what is it with Italian fans with smoke fireworks?
If we get £10m every year it looks like it will take 16.5 years to get back the investment. And so we run to Nike for sponsorship. "Nike Stadium" sounds so vulgar :yuck: We should let them fund the stadium and they can plaster their Nike signs everywhere but please the new stadia needs a character and nothing more so defines this than the name Stadium Gianni Agnelli.
 

Layce Erayce

Senior Member
Aug 11, 2002
9,116
#14
++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
Juve to halve capacity

Italian champions Juventus plan to halve the capacity of their Delle Alpi stadium as part of a redevelopment of the Turin venue which will include building 200 executive boxes.

Juventus chief executive officer Antonio Giruado said they expected to sign an agreement with the Turin city council next month which would allow them to begin work on the much maligned stadium. Giruado said the new stadium would keep the modern exterior but added the athletics track would be removed and the new stands would be close to the pitch.

"From the outside it will be as it is today which is an architectural wonder. The outside is the best thing about the current Delle Alpi. Inside however we will produce a stadium for 35.000," said Giruado.

The stadium, in the Turin suburbs, was built for the 1990 World Cup finals but has never won the affection of fans of Juventus and Torino who share the venue. On paper the stadium currently has a capacity of close to 70.000 but is rarely full and only 55.000 fans are expected for the top-of-the-table clash with Inter Milan on Sunday.

The major complaint has been that the open nature of the ground and the distance between the pitch and the stands dilute the atmosphere. Giruado said the re-designed venue would represent a radical improvement for fans. "The fans will feel as though they are on the pitch. There will be 10 metres (30 ft) between the supporters and the players, which means the fans will be closer than they are at the San Siro," he said.

The San Siro stadium in Milan, shared by Inter and AC Milan, enjoys one of the best atmospheres in the game. Giruado said the new venue would be ready by 2006 and would cost € 110 million ($118 million & £ 75 million). The club also plan a new training and entertainment centre which will cost € 130 million ($ 140 million & £ 89 million). Giruado said construction would begin at the end of this year.

Taken from www.eurosport.com
February 28th, 2002


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So this whole joke is going to cost us € 240.000.000,- :eek:
For the record, that's $ 258.000.000,- and £ 164,000,000.-
ok first of all its not going to cost us ;) it'll cost the developers- juventus fc/the city or whoever.....

secondly with their entertainment center there will also be cash flow.

thirdly ticket prices will go up

fourthly they cant expect a ginormo-friggin-zilliphyllic-mega-stadium because the weather is as bad as___________(fill in the blanks)and nobody's gonna watch juve-piacenza in the cold when they can sit at home with shots of espresso, biscuits, tv-dinners and wine.

if they wanted that they might as welll empty the refrigerator, lay it down on the floor doors-up and sleep in in using an old damp, dirty organically-grown cabbage for a pillow.

i know it sounds stupid, and the board dont have a lot of experience in these matters but u have to connect the dots and try and figure out what they're trying to do....

which is attract people to the 10-metres-from-the-pitch-stands(munny), some of which will go to the entertainment center(some more munny).

raising the profile of the club locally a bit-which fills more stands(munny)
 

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