Cristiano Ronaldo (77 Viewers)

[Seven]

if the article was between Ronaldo and his lawyer then how the f would Spiegel have obtained access to it?

Because it was leaked or they hacked into a server.

But why on God's green Earth would Ronaldo's lawyers not only create a highly damning document, but even choose to let it linger around on their servers for years? It makes zero sense.

Would it be admissible if it were real? If it's sent via email from someone in Ronaldo's lawyer's firm to the said lawyer it must have been obtained through hacking, or a whistle blower. Wouldn't it fall under attorney client privilege either way?

I believe under US law it would fall under attorney client privilege and would not be admissible.

But Ronaldo would still be in trouble as I don't think the same goes for Belgium for example. Which begs the question what the situation is like in Portugal (where he could also be sued).

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[Lion]

So how would the lawyers prove the documents are real?

I mean if Ronaldo says that's not me, the onus of proof is on the person who obtained the evidence to prove it's real...which means they would have to admit they obtained illegally.



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[Seven]

I just don't see it. If you're representing the most expensive soccer player on the planet and he's accused of rape, surely you go over the facts with him in person. You want to get all the nuances, talk to him, see his reactions...

You don't send a fucking questionnaire.


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[italiacalcio10]

Der Spiegel: How Ronaldo's Legal Team Dealt with Disaster

http://www.spiegel.de/international...am-dealt-with-rape-accusations-a-1231779.html

They Cut the part about hiding evidence lol maybe because it insinuating things that definitely can’t be proven


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[Seven]

They Cut the part about hiding evidence lol maybe because it insinuating things that definitely can’t be proven


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Most likely because it showed malicious intent on their part. Couple that with the fact they have no evidence for that claim and it's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

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[italiacalcio10]

I just don't see it. If you're representing the most expensive soccer player on the planet and he's accused of rape, surely you go over the facts with him in person. You want to get all the nuances, talk to him, see his reactions...

You don't send a fucking questionnaire.


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If that is to be admissible, they had better be some proof that makes it look legitimate. As I said I could literally replicate those questionnaire pages in under 5 minutes with world.


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[Seven]

Btw I doubt Football Leaks is going to send anything to Mayorga's lawyers. They probably do send their stuff to journalists from Der Spiegel (they did so with tax cases). Which makes me think Mayorga's lawyers got the document through journalists themselves, possibly even from Der Spiegel.

It would also explain why Stovall seems to have gotten most of his information about this case straight from the media.

Der Spiegel's role in all of this is highly suspect.

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[Snobist]

This doesnt look good. If he’s found guilty Juve will fire him. I hope Moggi is not director in any club because he would hire Ronaldo in January like he did with Mutu.

 

[james95]

SPIEGEL have acted more as Mayorga's lawyer than the lawyer himself. They seem to be even more determined to prove Ronaldo's guilt than the alleged victim. Wonder where their agenda against him stems from.

 

[Jem83]

This doesnt look good.

Please elaborate.

 

[InterMerda]

Im all for the womans side of it but it is pretty blurred on what is rape. I know many accusations that were never turned in or anything where the girl in college was all over the guy and they had sex and she remembers barely anything. Very sketchy and should be avoided if youre a guy but almost every time he was as drunk if not more than her. I wonder if this will have some form of trickle down effect that will end up hurting woman? Like I dont really want attractive women working in close proximity to me at my job right now. Fuck it Ill just bro it the fuck up at work which is also what they dont like and be done with it

I can't believe all the faggotry I just read.

 

[he_is_legend]

Is there any lawyer in this forum? Do the lawyers ususally do this questionnaires with their clients?

 

[ALC]

I don’t think Der Spiegel doing investigative journalism is suspicious if they believe in their sources. A lot of newspapers have pointed out crimes in the past. NYT just did a piece on Trump’s taxes for example.

 

[pavluska]

That tweet was depressing. Can't believe that came from our social media/club. Usually we're meticulous about things. Gaffes or intentional unprofessional blunders you expect from Napoli and Inter. And Roma previously. What kinda message was that.

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What Allegri said today was perfect. That would've been enough.

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I hope the contracts of the persons in charge of our PR and Twitter accounts are also expiring on Oct 25. Idiots.

 

[Salvo]

Yeah, but it could easily be false. Could be true but the doc looks like it could be made by someone with MS word.

This looks fake as shit

 

[Jem83]

Is there any lawyer in this forum? Do the lawyers ususally do this questionnaires with their clients?

It's more common to do it (no pun intended) in legal systems based on Common Law (UK/USA etc.). In my legal culture, for instance, it's unheard of. But in this instance it may very well have happened.

The "she said no/stop" statements, though, are so dumb and downright incriminating that I doubt he ever said that. If he did, he's flat out dumb.

Let's wait and see how the courts deem this particular 'evidence'.

 

[james95]

I don’t think Der Spiegel doing investigative journalism is suspicious if they believe in their sources. A lot of newspapers have pointed out crimes in the past. NYT just did a piece on Trump’s taxes for example.

I don't know about that. That Christoph Winterbach fella on twitter running the whole story seems pretty obsessed if you ask me. Notice how the lawyer of Mayorga doesn't even have anywwhere near the intel the guys of at SPIEGEL do.

 

[campionesidd]

It never fucking stops, does it. So after this, what is the next shit storm to hit Juve?

You were paid off in cash, so don’t worry about it.

 

[X Æ A-12]

If he goes to prison at least we still have Golzalo waiting in the wings

 

[james95]

So I was watching this video of a youtuber summarising the whole incident. I couldn't help but notice the part at 12:06 where he's recalling Kathryn's alleged letter to Ronaldo where she wrote that she screamed: "I told you NO NO NO NO over and over, I begged you to stop. You jumped on me from behind with a white rosary on your neck, what would god think of that! what would god think of you!"

Chillingly, Ronaldo did in fact wear that accessory a lot back then so perhaps this letter that she wrote was actually a real thing.