Cristiano Ronaldo (224 Viewers)

[Juliano13]

That’s a possibility too. But it doesn’t discredit the #metoo movement imo, the benefits outweigh the risks

The difference here is ahe alreadt settled and got her payoff.

The #metoo movement is complete bullshit. I don't know which benefits you are talking about. Women should be encourage to report rape or sexual assault immediately to the police. If reported on time, rape is not very difficult to prove because of all the physical evidence.

Instead, the feminazis want to bypass the legal system alltogether and presume the accuses guilty and humiliate them in the court of public opinion and social networks.

 

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[kappa96]

He says Ronaldo will have the opportunity to prove that he is innocent.

Where the fuck did this guy get his degree ffs? Burden of proof is on Mayorga.

Joke of a lawyer.But a competent reporter would have asked him about his statement.The media are a joke too.

 

[Jem83]

Tired of this case already. Hopefully it won't be dragged all season

I'm pretty sure that it will.

I'm not worried anymore when it comes to him ever being convicted in a criminal trial, though. I just don't see that happening.

What saddens me, though, is the lynch mob behavior and "guilty until proven innocent"-mentality which is the hallmark of our times, and which will see the CR and Juve brand take a substantial hit.

 

[bongraider]

It wouldn’t matter if they were illegally obtained as they’d be admitting a crime.

It’s like saying Trump can’t be found guilty of tax fraud unless he gives up the documents willfully.

Fruit of a poisonous tree

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[lvmnz]

I've been reading so much Nevada law for the past 48 hours that I haven't been able to carry out my day job 100% - worrying about what would gonna be presented tonight. Not that I could make a difference in the case, that wasn't the reason, but just so I could study up and follow proceedings. I've been reading all the relevant statutes in the Nevada civil code and criminal code, most notably
NRS 171.080, which states that there is no statute of limitations in Nevada for certain crimes, such as, as listed in it's number 1; "If, at any time during the period of limitation prescribed in NRS 171.085 and 171.095, a victim of a sexual assault, a person authorized to act on behalf of a victim of a sexual assault, or a victim of sex trafficking or a person authorized to act on behalf of a victim of sex trafficking, files with a law enforcement officer a written report concerning the sexual assault or sex trafficking, the period of limitation prescribed in NRS 171.085 and 171.095 is removed and there is no limitation of the time within which a prosecution for the sexual assault or sex trafficking must be commenced."

I've also read all the definitions in the Nevada statutes what constitutes "battery", "assault", "coercion", "fraud", and everything else listed in the document put forward by Leslie Stovall. Just out of pure interest and in trying to anticipate what would be brought forward tonight at the press conference.

And then this sun-tanned, pony-tailed fucking weirdo goes on Television and all he says is "claim claim claim", "money money money", explaining how a person can lose income from emotional distress in general terms, and calling the so called 'rape' which is at the center of the case an "alleged" rape. It doesn't get any dumber.

I've been worried for days, but this is a huge sigh of relief.

ALSO;

I expected him to address on which grounds they would claim that the statutes of limitations of civil claims would have to be set aside in this particular case. In Nevada, as I have learned during these past hours, the statutes of limitations of civil claims are between 2 and 4 years. This is a vital point in the case, because it's not like you can sue someone after 9 years when the limitation on the civil claims expired years ago. It would take something extraordinary for that to happen, and he didn't go into that subject at all. Especially since those very civil claims have already been determined by an NDA, I really expected him to go into that.

Note; I'm talking about civil claims here, not criminal charges; It is well known that since 1997, "sexual assault" as a criminal charge does not have a statute of limitation at all; it can be tried at anytime.

But as for the civil claims in the case, the way I understand it, they have 1) already expired and 2) they were already settled by the NDA.

Yes, the LVMPD are investigating the criminal aspect of the case, but with a dumbass lawyer like this representing Mayorga, and with the focus he has (civil claims), and the fact that it all went down 9 years back, I don't see LVMPD ever going to charge Ronaldo in a criminal case. For that to happen, her representatives at the very least would have to bring forward some hard, valuable evidence, and judging by this press conference there really is nothing to speak of.

What a fucking farce.

I think if you are looking for an exhaustive primer on the current standing of the situation as well as the potential of the case(s), this is what to read: https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/10/02/cristiano-ronaldo-rape-allegations-kathryn-mayorga-legal-case

As you noted and as the author of the above noted, the money aspect can only be broached if Mayorga wins ability to void the settlement. The settlement is discussed at length in the above.

If that were to happen, then the civil case hits and the evidence is rehashed in the context of liability.

Ronaldo’s main concerns are probably not with regard to the money. He has far more than Mayorga can plausibly make claims towards.

His biggest concern here is the potential of a criminal case. His second biggest concern is his sponsorships—they cannot be maintained if he is found liable for her injuries, etc.

Presumably, Juve gets to void contract if Ronaldo is convicted, but Juve is probably on the hook for whatever loss of marketing value he might suffer as a result of Nike’s ultimate decision. Perhaps Juve can look into lack of disclosure on Real Madrid’s part? Seems unlikely—Juve would probably also be on the hook in the sense of the transfer fee for their own negligence if they ever launched such a grieveance.



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[Jem83]

I think if you are looking for an exhaustive primer on the current standing of the situation as well as the potential of the case(s), this is what to read: https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/10/02/cristiano-ronaldo-rape-allegations-kathryn-mayorga-legal-case

As you noted and as the author of the above noted, the money aspect can only be broached if Mayorga wins ability to void the settlement. The settlement is discussed at length in the above.

If that were to happen, then the civil case hits and the evidence is rehashed in the context of liability.

Ronaldo’s main concerns are probably not with regard to the money. He has far more than Mayorga can plausibly make claims towards.

His biggest concern here is the potential of a criminal case. His second biggest concern is his sponsorships—they cannot be maintained if he is found liable for her injuries, etc.

Presumably, Juve gets to void contract if Ronaldo is convicted, but Juve is probably on the hook for whatever loss of marketing value he might suffer as a result of Nike’s ultimate decision. Perhaps Juve can look into lack of disclosure on Real Madrid’s part? Seems unlikely—Juve would probably also be on the hook in the sense of the transfer fee for their own negligence if they ever launched such a grieveance.



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Thanks! And indeed. This is pretty much the case, and some of it's potential outcomes (however, in my opinion;: not likely ones) - in a nutshell.

Say, would you happen to be a lawyer or a law student? I take it you are based in the US?

The reason I'm asking, is that I'm struggling to find case law examples online of verdicts from the Nevada courts which have 1) nullified/set aside as void an NDA pertaining to sexual assault allegations and 2) set aside the statutes of limitations of civil claims.

It would be really interesting to read such verdicts, in order to acquire a feel for where the bar is set. Just asking in case you have access to some kind of case law database where you could easily amass this sort of stuff.

 

[Post Ironic]

I'm pretty sure that it will.

I'm not worried anymore when it comes to him ever being convicted in a criminal trial, though. I just don't see that happening.

What saddens me, though, is the lynch mob behavior and "guilty until proven innocent"-mentality which is the hallmark of our times, and which will see the CR and Juve brand take a substantial hit.

The saddest part is that were she to admit that it was consensual but she just felt regret after about the direction it went and wished she had said no.... the Lynch mob excuses her behaviour entirely, and says it's a result of the patriarchy and toxic masculinity.

 

[Jem83]

The saddest part is that were she to admit that it was consensual but she just felt regret after about the direction it went and wished she had said no.... the Lynch mob excuses her behaviour entirely, and says it's a result of the patriarchy and toxic masculinity.

Nothing would surprise me anymore, but I hold the belief that if she ever were to admit such a thing (which I'm pretty sure she won't), she would be condemned by most people.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I have to retain some faith in humanity

 

[lgorTudor]

lads

god, w*myn are such a joke.

 

[Cerval]

lads

god, w*myn are such a joke.

Whew she's a Juve fan as well. She was there at BlackAndWhiteAndMore event

 

[italiacalcio10]

The thing that makes these incidents so difficult vs others is that there is no corroboration. It is easy to convict someone like Cosby because there is an avalanche of victims coming forward that confirm a) similar assaults or b) other strange behaviour. This is much more difficult because there are no other people coming forward, and the accusations are harsh - it describes an aggressive sexual assault involving sodomy, with no indication of a tendency for that behaviour. It is much easier with Weinstein, Cosby or others that have shown track records.

In Ronaldo's case, there was a previous instance while at United in 2005, but there wasn't enough evidence to press charges. And following Mayorga's accusations, there have been no other women to come forward. So ultimately, it depends on a few things - the truth to that document where he allegedly admits to the rape, the validity of the NDA, and the credibility of the witness. This is a tough situation for sure. Hopefully the truth comes out.

 

[Seven]

"Illegally obtained evidence" only applies to criminal law cases, and is directed at the authorities ("the prosecution");

The authorities (the prosecutor) can not illegally obtain evidence.

When it comes to civil claims, there is no such rule.

Those documents have not been illegally obtained by any federal or state authority, and is admissable both in a civil case and in a criminal one.

Agreed.

It wouldn’t matter if they were illegally obtained as they’d be admitting a crime.

It’s like saying Trump can’t be found guilty of tax fraud unless he gives up the documents willfully.

In Belgian law (and most European law) the crime is irrelevant. It's just that this is civil law and not criminal.

I'm pretty sure that it will.

I'm not worried anymore when it comes to him ever being convicted in a criminal trial, though. I just don't see that happening.

What saddens me, though, is the lynch mob behavior and "guilty until proven innocent"-mentality which is the hallmark of our times, and which will see the CR and Juve brand take a substantial hit.

The same mob is going to lynch her soon enough. Her attorney keeps saying nothing happened. 'Alleged rape', 'Cristiano will have the chance to prove..'.

Cristiano couldn't prove shit if he did it, which is what Ms Mayorga's attorney should believe.



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[Wittl]

lads

god, w*myn are such a joke.

Nice body

 

[italiacalcio10]

Whew she's a Juve fan as well. She was there at BlackAndWhiteAndMore event

 

[Cerval]

Don't know how credible this is

 

[Jem83]

Her attorney keeps saying nothing happened. 'Alleged rape', 'Cristiano will have the chance to prove..'.

Cristiano couldn't prove shit if he did it, which is what Ms Mayorga's attorney should believe.

By the way, did you notice in that press conference that there were a couple of journalists who challenged Stovall on the fact that the LVMPD recently stated that Mayorga did not (in 2009) identify the alleged assailant as well as the scene of the crime, to which Stovall responded: "Yeah I've heard that the police stated that, but it's simply not true, she identified Mr. Ronaldo shortly after the incident".

I mean, even at this point, Stovall and LVMPD is in disagreement. Lol. I really don't think that bodes well for their case ...

 

[Seven]

By the way, did you notice in that press conference that there were a couple of journalists who challenged Stovall on the fact that the LVMPD recently stated that Mayorga did not (in 2009) identify the alleged assailant as well as the scene of the crime, to which Stovall responded: "Yeah I've heard that the police stated that, but it's simply not true, she identified Mr. Ronaldo shortly after the incident".

I mean, even at this point, Stovall and LVMPD is in disagreement. Lol. I really don't think that bodes well for their case ...

Exactly. And again he says 'I've heard'. It's as if he knows nothing about this case.

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[kappa96]

By the way, did you notice in that press conference that there were a couple of journalists who challenged Stovall on the fact that the LVMPD recently stated that Mayorga did not (in 2009) identify the alleged assailant as well as the scene of the crime, to which Stovall responded: "Yeah I've heard that the police stated that, but it's simply not true, she identified Mr. Ronaldo shortly after the incident".

I mean, even at this point, Stovall and LVMPD is in disagreement. Lol. I really don't think that bodes well for their case ...

also the LVMPD could also prove at any given time that she refused to identify him , based on her official testimony
i guess peperwork exist that can prove that statement

 

[Nedved96]

This is the soyboy who is writing all these articles about Ronaldo being a rapist:

 

[Ronn]

Don't know how credible this is

Can't find the Spiegel article on evidence being disappeared. But the title reeks with sensationalism.