Cristiano Ronaldo (143 Viewers)

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
18,177
Maybe somebody already posted, anyway this is sad to watch.
Seems like Ronaldo would be a very good coach in the future...
Anyway He is right he ask to close the spaces and put pressure on the opponent instead of just sitting back - Kind of the opposite of Allegri`s tactic...

Allegri is a great coach to a certain level but if you want to take the next step you need someone who also applies pressure and has a more attacking mentality than Allegri..
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
15,338
Seems like Ronaldo would be a very good coach in the future...
Anyway He is right he ask to close the spaces and put pressure on the opponent instead of just sitting back - Kind of the opposite of Allegri`s tactic...

Allegri is a great coach to a certain level but if you want to take the next step you need someone who also applies pressure and has a more attacking mentality than Allegri..
Definitely we need a coach who provides us with attacking identity
 

Prototype

Junior Member
Oct 22, 2009
352
After Cardif it's just not it. Allegri is still good coach, but not for this team anymore. To cautious, wrong tactics considering what kind of talent he has on his disposal, he was flexibal but not anymore.

It's time for change, regardless of Allegri's capability as a coach.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
22,606
I really understand Ronaldo's frustration because he thrives like most offensive players when the ball is around the box. He needs better midfielder than Matuidi on his left side to combine with. I feel he often shifts to the right side just to get away from the Frenchman. He was moaning a lot in Real when things didnt go his way. Not particularly a fan of that side of him. But hes friggin' Ronaldo though, one of the best players that has ever played this game so it is a non issue imo and his impact is more related to commercial end of things. Also you have to wonder what Agnelli is thinking atm, buying 100m player over the summer, building up expectations over the CL, and then watching that same player recieving very few useful balls, because we are sitting back in our own half for most of the game. This season reminds me in so many ways to our last season under Conte, chasing useless Serie A record at the expense of more aestethically pleasing performance. If we had lost game against Lazio, maybe in the grand scheme of things it could have been more useful for us...

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After Cardif it's just not it. Allegri is still good coach, but not for this team anymore. To cautious, wrong tactics considering what kind of talent he has on his disposal, he was flexibal but not anymore.

It's time for change, regardless of Allegri's capability as a coach.
Imho the return game against Atletico will decide his fate. Winning 4 domestic doubles is astonishing achievement, no matter how much people like to underrate Italian football. But our objectives for the past few seasons were also related to successful CL campaigns and this and last season were anything but. Lets see how we fare in a week.
 
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sgjuveboy

Senior Member
Oct 31, 2012
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Seems like Ronaldo would be a very good coach in the future...
Anyway He is right he ask to close the spaces and put pressure on the opponent instead of just sitting back - Kind of the opposite of Allegri`s tactic...

Allegri is a great coach to a certain level but if you want to take the next step you need someone who also applies pressure and has a more attacking mentality than Allegri..

FUCCCIN DUMB COACHING BY ALLEGRI.
I would understand if he asks our players to back away from challenges if our team is filled with Matuidi and MDSes, because these low quality players will probably mess it up and concede fouls/possession/injury.

BUT, our attack is now loaded with skills and power! Berna, CR7, Manbro and even Dybala. They are completely capable of pressing opponents, win and control the ball, and create opportunities. allegri should encourage high pressing like klopp or pep.

Honestly, we now have a bunch of ferraris but we drive them like a Toyota. allegri is perhaps an athletico Madrid kind of coach. Capable of handling workhorses, but fail in the face of handling true superstars quality like CR7.

Allegro could have the below team and still lose to opponents through poosie tactics.

————————Allison————————-
Arnold——chie——vandijk——marcelo
———modric—dSilva—fernandinho—-
Messi—————CR7————-Mbappe
 

ColloRosso

Senior Member
Jul 16, 2018
2,245
I don't think he lacks skill or knowledge to make changes during a match but he doesn't have the tools to do so bar against the small teams.. I think he has no outlet.. he doesn't really have that player to trust to execute his ideas, I don't think Pjanic is the player with ability to dictate a game against bigger teams. But this still doesn't explain why he doesnt tidy up defensive approach during match. That defence was hard to watch if anything needed adjustment that was it. No changes at the half either when in first it was obvious it was needed. Still amazed at his completely wrong approach. You press these cunts way BEFORE they get near your 18 not start around it. The match had 0-0 written all over it way to F up.

That is still the manager's responsibility, that's why he's the manager. He's the one that should be deciding on the transfer windows which players come in, which players stay and which players go out. And he's the one setting up the team and which fit his model of play and his tactical system.

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Well at any rate, I hope Ronaldo got some satisfaction watching Real going out.



 
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May 23, 2013
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Fantastic article on CR7:

Real Madrid tasked Ronaldo (accompanied by the mega-talented squads that have always surrounded him) the defeat of Pep’s and Messi’s Barca. Everyone knew that. And also knew that it was hardly achievable on the short term.

Mourinho arrives in 2010 and builds in relatively little time the second best team in the world. A team created in the image and likeness of Cristiano. Özil, Alonso, Benzema…everything revolves around him.

Between 2010 and 2013, Cristiano represents something unique in history: we stand before a player capable of moving the attack of an entire team with off-the-ball movement. A machine of movements that are perennial, intelligent and span the entire pitch. These are not deep forward runs like those of Ronaldo Nazario or Eto’o, nor pure speed on the wings like Finidi George; we’re talking about a sensibility of movement that builds tactical mechanisms. A whiteboard. From his movements, the other players exist.

That Real Madrid was Cristiano’s team. Both its good side—Alonso’s game (that differed from his game with the Spanish NT), Özil’s final passing, Benzema, the ultra-vertical style, the best counterattacking game ever created—as well as its bad side. That team had a big defect: it lacked patience. Competitive composure.

Their three UCL semifinals became three defeats but, most importantly, were played with insufficient composure. The desire for the 10th European Cup conditioned everything. However, between 2010 and 2013, Cristiano’s individual performance was…superlative. Almost hyperbolic. A player of 45 goals per league who moved off-the-ball like THAT.

In May of 2012, Cristiano gave Real Madrid their most commendable league title in decades. An almost impossible title in which he was THE cause. Something that a Zidane or Platini would have not achieved. Could we say that back then Ronaldo was one of the 7-8 best players in history? I would say yes.

However, it’s funny to remember that in January 2012, Cristiano is strongly booed in the Copa del Rey Clásico. Real Madrid fans determined, through their boos, that this player could not compete against Messi. And so, Ronaldo closes his cycle of tactical and footballing leadership with 1 league and 0 UCLs despite offering performances—I insist—of at least a historic Top 10.

2014 brings La Décima and a transformation in Cristiano.

This footballer of unrepeatable behavior, victim of his aging body, will reinvent his game. Modric explodes, Marcelo too. Isco and Kroos arrive. Real takes control of the ball. Now, the playmaking talent is theirs, not Barca’s. By 2018, Cristiano now has won 5 Ballon d’Or, 4 UCLs and 1 Eurocup. In 2013, he had 1 Ballon d’Or, 1 UCL and 0 Euro. What happened?

Let’s go to 2017. Champions League. After defeating the enjoyable Napoli, Real has to face Bayern, Atlético and Juventus. For sure, their toughest UCL of this decade.

Excepting Bayern—a tie that could have gone either way—Real lifts the UCL trophy with great superiority over their rivals. The 2nd half of the Cardiff final vs Juventus was the best European performance of the club in years. In this UCL, Cristiano would exhibit a greatness never before seen in him. 10 goals en 5 matches vs Bayern, Atlético, and Juventus, and the feeling that every shot would become a goal. But in terms of participating in the team’s play, it’s now a different story.

Don’t get me wrong: in a much more limited way, Cristiano still allows for the creation of tactical mechanisms. He gives purpose to attacking runs on the left and the right, because he will always be on the opposite side to provide offensive fluidity.

Examples: against PSG, Lucas can make a surprise attack on the left and cross because Cristiano is already on the other side, ready to score. He allows for that offensive fluidity, he interprets it. How is it possible that 2017 Juventus did not concede any goals and were unbeatable against crosses, and then they receive two goals from crosses in the final? That was due to Cristiano…but also due to the rest of Real Madrid.

The amount of creative talent in Real—Marcelo, Kroos, Modric, Isco, Benzema, Asensio, Bale and even Carvajal or Lucas—is such that it is almost impossible that Cristiano won’t score (at least in Europe).

Thus, Cristiano has everything he needs to retire with an insane trophy haul, that forces us to place him in the most absolute historical elite. And that’s the curious thing: to me, 2013 Cristiano was already a Top 6 in terms of performance…but he didn’t win trophies. Now, in 2018, it looks difficult for Real NOT to reach a UCL final with his goals.

What made Maradona, Messi, Di Stefano, Cruyff (or Zidane or Platini) into historic greats is that they won trophies while taking care of the ball. They took full charge of their teams. Cristiano did that for many years. With more or less of the ball, he was the center of everything. But today, he can spend 45 min of a UCL final touching the ball only a few times.

He’s the guarantee of victory, but not the engine of Real Madrid. Evidently, Real wouldn’t win the UCL without him, but the team now plays at the tempo of Ramos, Marcelo, Kroos or Modric, who have the confidence that their guy up front will “cash out” on their midfield play.

How do we interpret all this? Cristiano seems greater than ever now that he stays away from the team’s engine room!

We live in an era in which the iconic photo and statistics excessively enshrine players. That’s why this Cristiano receives more praise than that Cristiano who allowed Real to do the impossible against peak Messi and Barca.

I think that Cristiano is a living and unique legend whom football is generously repaying everything that it cruelly took away from him in the past. But we must also consider that Real learned to win consistently once the ball stopped going through his feet all the time.




Translated by Carlito86 on Bigsoccer forum
 
Jul 13, 2010
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Seems like Ronaldo would be a very good coach in the future...
Anyway He is right he ask to close the spaces and put pressure on the opponent instead of just sitting back - Kind of the opposite of Allegri`s tactic...

Allegri is a great coach to a certain level but if you want to take the next step you need someone who also applies pressure and has a more attacking mentality than Allegri..
ahhh the good ol' player-coach

Welcome again, CR7
 

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