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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Its not what metoo is about? Have any of these big celebs (bar maybe Cosby) who are part of this been actually convicted of anything? have most of them even had a day in court? Because they sure do seem to have their careers and lives destroyed...

I understand the necessity. I absolutely believe the entertainment industry is full of predators and desperate vulnerable attractive young girls but being accused is not at all the same as being guilty and its worrying that so many people, who would in other circumstances than sexual assault, don't get this. Being simply accused of something sexually inappropriate is now enough to ruin someone regardless of whether it happened or how much evidence there is that it didn't happen. Just the accusation is enough of a stain.

If you can't grasp how fucked up that is then it is hard to take your opinion on the matter seriously
Weinstein and Spacey have certainly come out as creepy rapists. That’s just off the top of my head.
 

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Jun 25, 2003
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Weinstein and Spacey have certainly come out as creepy rapists. That’s just off the top of my head.
They have, yes. Ronaldo won't. I bet this won't even be a thing a week from now. Way too many things are off about this story. The supposed legal background with Ronaldo giving her 300k while admitting to rape is just laughable.

Can't believe some of you are falling for this really.

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B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
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Ok. So the next time a women refuses you but showed interest earlier, you'll just tell her that it is ok, she wanted it earlier. I doubt my wife would forgive me if I did something like that to her.
This happens rarely outside a marriage life and you're comparing it to one and your wife to such a personality. You have no idea about this girl's behavior on the night and problem is you flat out refuse of any intentions on her part to create such a scenario out of interest.

You keep playing a clear cut situation in your head and I'm saying its not as you may think.

We're just going round and round, let's just leave it here.
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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@GordoDeCentral - I can’t see you allowing a Tuz member calling a Juve player guilty of rape despite not being convincted.

And it doesn’t matter what the Metoo was meant to be out. It has evolved to about everything women could feel offended about - also cases where no harm was done at all.
as reprehensible as that comment is, it is imho within his right to voice it, just dont spam the thread with it.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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About and consequences are separate things. You asked what it was about. Regarding these cases, I have not followed the allegations or the court rulings. As I implied and tried to say on some posts earlier. To be it is more important to switch head sets/perspectives because that is how we deal with inequality long-term. Of course I would feel bad if someone innocent gets destroyed, but that was not what I was on about. So far it seems Ronaldo is guilty and as I repeat, for everyone's sake, I hope not. As I have also said, my door is still slightly open given I want a court ruling in this case. He is indeed innocent until proven guilty but the evidence suggests otherwise. Too upset to make a more in-depth analysis at this moment.

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I am not sure what to make of this. You say you value the "innocent until proven guilty" but then go on to completely piss on that in saying you think "so far it seems Ronaldo is guilty" when there is not shit for evidence, at least that has been posted in this thread. There is nothing.

It is completely ok to be too upset for a more in-depth analysis. It is a serious subject that affects countless people and i am not at all unsympathetic to that. But maybe, in the meantime, you should refrain from making such damning statements about someone who is very popular here until more details come out and you have time to sort out your own head.

As of now, I don't see any reason for Tuz to turn on Ronaldo.
 
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Apr 19, 2007
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To many times people get ruined and then when the facts come out its to late and their reputation is already ruined. Nah Ill let her try to talk in court about it and until then believe that hes innocent. A bunch of he said she said
 

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It means he’s (she’s?) ready to ignore legal rights, because too many men walk free. I strongly disagree.
I accidentally hit enter before typing the rest of my post but yes sexual assault is not different from other crimes. Or it at least should not be treated differently under law.

I hate to say the rich deserve more protection than the common, but there is always a level of suspicion when the accused is sitting on a mountain of money for the taking and something like the metoo movement, believe "survivors over evidence" is a perfectly exploitable vehicle to get paid.

Something like this impossible to prove. They had sex 10 years ago and I'm sure it will end up there is no evidence or witnesses to corroborate either side. It comes down to whose word you believe and in a situation like this, you need to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that the accused is guilty which won't at all happen. Short of coming up with surprise video evidence or a shocking Ronaldo confession this is simply a smear campaign on Ronaldo.
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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They have, yes. Ronaldo won't. I bet this won't even be a thing a week from now. Way too many things are off about this story. The supposed legal background with Ronaldo giving her 300k while admitting to rape is just laughable.

Can't believe some of you are falling for this really.

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I wouldn’t be surprised at all if you’re right. However, something happened. Only Ronaldo and the girl know the truth and I’m curious to see what comes out of it

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I’d let CR7 anally rape me for 300K @ALC
How much for Messi to do it?
 

Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
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I accidentally hit enter before typing the rest of my post but yes sexual assault is not different from other crimes. Or it at least should not be treated differently under law.

I hate to say the rich deserve more protection than the common, but there is always a level of suspicion when the accused is sitting on a mountain of money for the taking and something like the metoo movement, believe "survivors over evidence" is a perfectly exploitable vehicle to get paid.
But there’s a problem about rich and powerful people using their status to sexual exploite other people. The Metoo campaign is a important and a good thing in this sense.

Most sexual assaults happens between two related people and because of that, it’s often word against word. That’s why it’s different from other cases.
 

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But there’s a problem about rich and powerful people using their status to sexual exploite other people. The Metoo campaign is a important and a good thing in this sense.
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I am aware and addressed that in an earlier post.

There is no easy fix to this. It is going to be a massive problem that won't go away anytime soon, imo for both survivors and the wrongfully accused to get justice when often there is no evidence other than their word.

And them being acquaintances does not make it different from other instances of violence. An overwhelming majority of all violent crime is between acquaintances. Despite the attention that interracial, inter-class, stranger on stranger violence receives it is an almost insignificant % of violent crime. The most likely people to beat your head in with a wrench and rape your corpse are your friends and family.
 

Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
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I am aware and addressed that in an earlier post.

There is no easy fix to this. It is going to be a massive problem that won't go away anytime soon, imo for both survivors and the wrongfully accused to get justice when often there is no evidence other than their word.

And them being acquaintances does not make it different from other instances of violence. An overwhelming majority of all violent crime is between acquaintances. Despite the attention that interracial, inter-class, stranger on stranger violence receives it is an almost insignificant % of violent crime. The most likely people to beat your head in with a wrench and rape your corpse are your friends and family.
Agree. If you believe in “innocent till proven guilty” it will always be like this. But police need to handle this better. They should have a unit with knowlegde who takes care of such cases. Then hopefully, women will go to the police immediately.
 

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