Cristiano Giuntoli (32 Viewers)

Paolino

Senior Member
Nov 1, 2013
1,082
I'm all for sacking Giuntoli of course. But the culture has changed at the club and I just don't believe hiring the right sporting director will fix everything.

Sure, get a new SD and coach, it's better than nothing. But we need an owner or at least President who has a vision for the club.
What this club needs more than anything is someone like Agnelli at the top. There's a real lack of leadership in the management. Elkann, Ferrero, and the others feel like they're just symbolic figures, they’re there in name only. The absence of an influential presence in the club’s hierarchy has created a lot of chaos. Maybe someone like Platini, Del Piero, or even Agnelli himself could fill that role.
 

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Oct 23, 2011
3,801
The club is chaotic mostly because of Giuntoli. I'll always blame him more for sabotaging last season and for his man-management skills. I agree hindsight makes it easy to judge, and at the time most people thought he had a solid summer - aside from dragging things out, overpaying for a couple of players, and not getting a proper striker. But overall, the general consensus was that we improved the squad (which i still believe, honestly, because last season's bar was insanely low). We even thought he brought in a good coach.

That said, he's the one getting paid millions to build a complete, competive roster, not us, and in the end, his project failed. Maybe betting on young coach and cutting the squad's average age own to ~23 wasn't the smartest thing to do, and for that, he should be held accountable.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,748
What this club needs more than anything is someone like Agnelli at the top. There's a real lack of leadership in the management. Elkann, Ferrero, and the others feel like they're just symbolic figures, they’re there in name only. The absence of an influential presence in the club’s hierarchy has created a lot of chaos. Maybe someone like Platini, Del Piero, or even Agnelli himself could fill that role.
Agree. I don't know if AA, Del Piero or Platini are the right people but we do need leadership
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
23,990
I'm all for sacking Giuntoli of course. But the culture has changed at the club and I just don't believe hiring the right sporting director will fix everything.

Sure, get a new SD and coach, it's better than nothing. But we need an owner or at least President who has a vision for the club.
I actually think choosing the right general manager is a key to success. Owners are too detached and lack vision if we are talking about big business. The vision and direction is provided by GM.

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Agree. I don't know if AA, Del Piero or Platini are the right people but we do need leadership
As a figurhead sure. Not decision makers.
 

decfro

Junior Member
Jul 3, 2009
469
I would like to think junktoli is the main problem, but ,the fish stinks from the head down and we don't have an owner with balls, if we do his balls , are microscopic, guy doesn't care ,doesn't defend, doesn't fight, sleeps with the enemy(intermafia and gravinter), no shows to most games and sends winnie the poop to watch, no emotional attachment to the club, he's an elkunt not angelli, history is proving me right, andrea angelli, winner, (elkunt) loser last 5 years proves it he's got that losing touch.Angelli is no angel but loves the team for fuck sakes, elkunt just the sugar daddy, nothing more, just sell loser, 5 years is too long to have you still around, please fuck off.
 

Brny44

Senior Member
Aug 24, 2020
1,980
Honestly, I’m not even sure what the problem with this club is, but I don’t think it’s all on Giuntoli. Last summer, everyone was rating him 8 or 9 out of 10, and we were happy with the transfers. Honestly, signings like Koopmeiners, Douglas Luiz, Nico Gonzalez, Thuram, Chico, and others were top-notch for a single summer, and most of them were really good players before joining Juve, with plenty of suitors. On the other hand, reducing wages and the average age by letting go of guys like Sandro, Szczesny, Rabiot, De Sciglio, and others was a solid move. The fact that almost all the new signings have flopped is strange, though. I think the biggest mistake Giuntoli made was bringing in Motta. Overall, I agree that Giuntoli should go, but I’m worried that changing him and bringing in another director won’t make much of a difference. It feels like something's just wrong with this club, but I can’t figure out what it is.
True, but what he done in january is for prison.
Yes the whole managament is rotten, that means that whoever they will bring will suck.

Sell the club and fire everyone, that is the only way.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
Honestly, I’m not even sure what the problem with this club is, but I don’t think it’s all on Giuntoli. Last summer, everyone was rating him 8 or 9 out of 10, and we were happy with the transfers. Honestly, signings like Koopmeiners, Douglas Luiz, Nico Gonzalez, Thuram, Chico, and others were top-notch for a single summer, and most of them were really good players before joining Juve, with plenty of suitors. On the other hand, reducing wages and the average age by letting go of guys like Sandro, Szczesny, Rabiot, De Sciglio, and others was a solid move. The fact that almost all the new signings have flopped is strange, though. I think the biggest mistake Giuntoli made was bringing in Motta. Overall, I agree that Giuntoli should go, but I’m worried that changing him and bringing in another director won’t make much of a difference. It feels like something's just wrong with this club, but I can’t figure out what it is.
Starting with sării this club has encouraged a culture of mediocrity. Most of these bozos know that juve is the pinnacle of their careers so they don't care what happens next.
There is no accountability in the club. Even with Tudor . Susan has been shit for a full season now ,yet he starts 4 games in a row , instead of getting 10 20 minutes at max to prove himself .
The rot has been ingrained in our ADN, and I don't think anyone can easily fix it .
We could start with Conte and see whee that leads us . At least he would make some of these prima Donna's spit blood or get the Zigler treatment .
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,176
Honestly, I’m not even sure what the problem with this club is, but I don’t think it’s all on Giuntoli. Last summer, everyone was rating him 8 or 9 out of 10, and we were happy with the transfers. Honestly, signings like Koopmeiners, Douglas Luiz, Nico Gonzalez, Thuram, Chico, and others were top-notch for a single summer, and most of them were really good players before joining Juve, with plenty of suitors. On the other hand, reducing wages and the average age by letting go of guys like Sandro, Szczesny, Rabiot, De Sciglio, and others was a solid move. The fact that almost all the new signings have flopped is strange, though. I think the biggest mistake Giuntoli made was bringing in Motta. Overall, I agree that Giuntoli should go, but I’m worried that changing him and bringing in another director won’t make much of a difference. It feels like something's just wrong with this club, but I can’t figure out what it is.
I was of this opinion until the winter transfer window. Kolo was a coup and a good deal - we needed an option at CF and we got a guy with 94m of talent for pennies and no obligation.

The Kelly transfer though...unforgivable. Not even in comparison to Huijsen or whatever just as a standalone what the fuck was that??

Fired. I don't care about anything else.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,893
I'm all for sacking Giuntoli of course. But the culture has changed at the club and I just don't believe hiring the right sporting director will fix everything.

Sure, get a new SD and coach, it's better than nothing. But we need an owner or at least President who has a vision for the club.
When your so called president is sleepy Joe Ferrero, the club culture is already fucked.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,831
Can we ban xperd and osman for few months? They were biggest guintoli backers
Nothing will top your disgusting throating and cheerleading of Inda this season. Thats a line you don't cross. Might as well change your nickname to Il Serpenti or something.

I honestly don't know how you haven't been given a solid 4-5 month vacation yet.

I can also see that you are redirecting all your frustration of seeing Inda losing by abusing poor Alex. Shame on you for targeting innocent and sincere Tuz posters like me and Alex who only want what's best for JJ!
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,176
I actually think choosing the right general manager is a key to success. Owners are too detached and lack vision if we are talking about big business. The vision and direction is provided by GM.

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As a figurhead sure. Not decision makers.
You're right. We need boring people who excel at running businesses to run the business side and we need emblematic, charismatic figures with leadership qualities to be the figurehead and lead.

For that matter we need somebody who has a fantastic tactical brain as well as excellent people skills to coach the players, and somebody who is brilliant at making deals, understands football and can work with the coach to bring the types of players required for the coach to get results on the pitch.

Etc etc.

We don't have any of these things.
 

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