Cristiano Giuntoli (63 Viewers)

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,390
He even talks about having intervened in the locker room already, everyone from the outside can tell that the coach has lost the dressing room and that many key players are in cold relations with the coaching staff, then recent result have been even more clear proof there is a rupture inside and that a change is needed to salvage the season, atm i’m not even sure what else is required so that the board understands that this team needs a hard reset instead of more continuation of what clearly hasn’t worked.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,877
i'll just leave this here without mentioning any names:

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he hired motta, he created a toxic environment, he's most probably a jerk to work with. the project is a failure, i fully agree

but look at our votes. if my point isn't clear: this squad is better than last year's squad was. blame motta too for the failure
From the looks of it, we have 2 intelligent members on tuz. :grin:
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,005
i'll just leave this here without mentioning any names:

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he hired motta, he created a toxic environment, he's most probably a jerk to work with. the project is a failure, i fully agree

but look at our votes. if my point isn't clear: this squad is better than last year's squad was. blame motta too for the failure
I wouldn't say it's much better (we had some extra stars and experience that could make a difference) but we were never at the point of failing to qualify for the CL either... Certainly not 'till Allegri was being dumped in silence.

This one is much younger and cheaper which was necessary but we were too thin at first. We fixed that numbers' issue but some players, like Koop, aren't performing in a manner that is blatantly obviously pointing towards the coach... Keeping him on will probably end in disaster. What a decision...
 

mondo1

Senior Member
May 14, 2006
11,413
I wouldn't say it's much better (we had some extra stars and experience that could make a difference) but we were never at the point of failing to qualify for the CL either... Certainly not 'till Allegri was being dumped in silence.

This one is much younger and cheaper which was necessary but we were too thin at first. We fixed that numbers' issue but some players, like Koop, aren't performing in a manner that is blatantly obviously pointing towards the coach... Keeping him on will probably end in disaster. What a decision...
Yeah Kelly and costa fixed a lot. Just throwing money around and buy Serie C level players does not help fix the numbers. Worst build squad ever, coached by an absolute scumbag. Perfect fit


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Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,174
Let's not exaggerate the "merits" of these players.

We have a Pseudo coach and a toxic environment, so they would have sucked here. In fact, they did have opportunities and were mostly shit.

Playing for Genoa, Venezia, and even Lazio and Fiorentina is not the same as playing for Juventus.
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,005
Yeah Kelly and costa fixed a lot. Just throwing money around and buy Serie C level players does not help fix the numbers. Worst build squad ever, coached by an absolute scumbag. Perfect fit


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Dude, at best that's a caricature. Koop was one of the best midfielders in Serie A, Douglas Luiz in EPL, Veiga is obviously talented, Kolo Muani as well... PSg didn't pay 90 mil for no reason. Nico Gonzalez was a real threat at Viola and so on.

There's talent here. Denying it is futile. Some won't cut it at Juve obviously but it's far from the "Serie C" level.

The problem is experienced leadership in the broader sense; coaches, management and players probably.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,366
Dude, at best that's a caricature. Koop was one of the best midfielders in Serie A, Douglas Luiz in EPL, Veiga is obviously talented, Kolo Muani as well... PSg didn't pay 90 mil for no reason. Nico Gonzalez was a real threat at Viola and so on.

There's talent here. Denying it is futile. Some won't cut it at Juve obviously but it's far from the "Serie C" level.

The problem is experienced leadership in the broader sense; coaches, management and players probably.
To sum it up, you just said that we got talented Serie C players.
 

Fellas

Farsopoli
Jun 13, 2005
3,136
If players performed at other clubs before Juventus probably mean that they can perform good, Douglas Luiz was great for Aston Villa in a leauge that's better then Serie A at the moment, Koopmeiners was a great player for Atalanta and before that AZ Alkmaar, he scored alot of goals every season he played before joining Juve.

Something is very wrong at our club atm, sadly I get Man Utd vibes, players don't perform but do good/better in other clubs.

For me I will stick what I believed after the summer mercato, this team on paper can challenge for the scudetto.

The mentality is not there, the passion is not there, the fino ala fine mentality is not there, the will to fight for the badge, sometimes I see Koopmeiners run in full speed pressing but nobody else does it, we need to do it together but most of the times we don't.

We need Del Piero back in the club, Chiellini closer to the team, Conte on the bench. Just to get that Juventus mentality back at the club. Dislike or like Conte as a coach, he would never accept the performances of this Juve.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
80,925
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“Cristiano Giuntoli’s tenure as Juventus sporting director was supposed to mark a new era—one of intelligent squad building, modern footballing strategy, and an end to the years of mismanagement that had left the club stuck in the past. Instead, as we near the conclusion of the 2024-25 season, Juventus finds itself in an all-too-familiar place: lifeless, directionless, and somehow even worse than before. And Giuntoli? He’s done nothing but oversee another year of stagnation, bad decisions, and cowardly inaction.

Let’s start with the disaster that was the 2024 summer transfer window. Juventus entered the season with glaring squad issues, most notably in midfield and attack. The team desperately needed dynamism, creativity, and depth. What did Giuntoli do? His grand plan consisted of re-signing Adrien Rabiot—as if keeping a midfielder who’s been here for five years and never elevated the squad beyond mediocrity was some masterstroke—and bringing in Douglas Luiz. Now, Luiz is a fine player, but was he a game-changing signing? No. Did he solve Juventus’ attacking impotence? Absolutely not. And after months of hype about a “Giuntoli revolution,” Juventus entered the new season looking disturbingly similar to the team that collapsed in the second half of 2023-24.

Then came the nightmare of the first few months of the season. Juventus played uninspired, soul-crushing football—Allegri-ball at its absolute worst—but instead of using the summer window to build a squad capable of outgrowing the coach’s limitations, Giuntoli doubled down on his passive approach. The team had no true wingers, no creative midfielders capable of breaking down low blocks, and a striker in Dusan Vlahović left completely isolated up front, expected to thrive off scraps. What kind of sporting director watches that and thinks, Yes, this squad is fine?

And then came January, where Giuntoli truly showed his colors: spineless, hesitant, and completely out of his depth. Juventus was already crumbling, with their attack in shambles and injuries exposing the squad’s lack of depth. This was his moment to make a statement, to show that he could adjust when things weren’t working. And what did he do? Absolutely nothing. A full month passed, and while rivals strengthened, Juventus stood still, watching as their season continued to spiral. Not even a loan signing. Not even a single attempt to address the glaring flaws. Just another round of excuses about financial sustainability while the team drifted toward disaster.

And let’s not forget his biggest failure: his inability—or outright refusal—to make tough decisions regarding Max Allegri. By January, it was clear to everyone that Allegri had reached the end of the road. The football was abysmal, the players looked lost, and the fanbase was in open revolt. A real sporting director would have stepped in and made a decisive call, either by sacking the coach or at least forcing a tactical reset. Giuntoli did neither. Instead, he hid behind the same tired rhetoric about Allegri’s “experience” and “stability,” as if grinding out results against mid-table sides was the height of ambition. The result? Juventus drifted further into irrelevance, and by the time Giuntoli finally started considering Allegri’s future, it was already too late.

The harsh truth is that Giuntoli has spent this entire season proving he is no different from the parade of incompetent executives that have mismanaged Juventus for years. He talked a big game about building for the future, but his transfer strategy has been painfully short-sighted. He promised sustainability, but Juventus remains financially unstable and competitively stagnant. He was supposed to bring Napoli-style innovation, but the club has never looked less forward-thinking than it does now.

Cristiano Giuntoli was hired to lead Juventus into a new era. Instead, he’s turned them into a team that feels more lost than ever. If this season has proven anything, it’s that he is not the man to rebuild Juventus—and the sooner the club realizes that, the better.”

:rofl: @DAiDEViL
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,366
I owe you an apology. I am an optimistic person and thought you were too negative and being a buzzkill. Now I must admit I was wrong and you were right all along.
It's fine and there is no need to apologize. I am not happy at all that "I was right". Let us hope that something drastic happens and cleans the rot inside the club because if we keep on painting over the mould it will never go away.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,554
Where will JJ be with this quartet in midfield ? More money in the bank and and maybe high in the table ?

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at the moment neither of them are starter levels. neither of them are better than our current crop

we had fagioli. he played one outstanding game under motta and was mostly meh during this season. miretti and rovella would be nice to have for rotation, they would be cheap of course and that's where the advantages end. motta's "ideas" would maybe fit rovella a tiny bit better than the others

ii'd take back miretti for next season if we replaced motta with a proper coach. based on what i've seen from him lately, with a coach with actual attacking ideas he'd be a good rotational player
 

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