Cristiano Giuntoli (43 Viewers)

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,520
#83
How do we know he is competent? Let me jump on the hype. Convince me!
Bringing Carpi from lower leagues to Serie A, and bringing a Scudetto (plus a few other trophies like Coppa Italia) to Nipples for the first time in 33 years is a sign of his competence.

He’s also found some relatively unknown players who ended up becoming top players for good prices. He’s involved in all technical areas of a football team, very involved and available to the coaching department. Also a huge Juventus fan.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,182
#88
I can't blame him for confirming Failegri, as he's coming in July, and it's probably too late to prepare for next season with a new coach anyway. We probably can't afford to sack the fraudulent fuck, but sticking with him is a massive risk regardless. Hopefully, he manages to barely scrape into the top 4 without winning any trophies, so we can finally purge him come June 2024.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
#89
I can't blame him for confirming Failegri, as he's coming in July, and it's probably too late to prepare for next season with a new coach anyway. We probably can't afford to sack the fraudulent fuck, but sticking with him is a massive risk regardless. Hopefully, he manages to barely scrape into the top 4 without winning any trophies, so we can finally purge him come June 2024.
So you’d rather we win zero trophies than win the scudetto next year? Sounds about right for :J:“fans” today lol
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
40,182
#91
So you’d rather we win zero trophies than win the scudetto next year? Sounds about right for :J:“fans” today lol
We're not winning shit with the fucker in charge. What makes you think we can actually win? Don't delude yourself. To answer your question, if winning means Failegri stays on (and possibly receives a contract extension), then I'd rather we don't win (but still make the CL). I am looking at the big picture here.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,407
#92
We're not winning shit with the fucker in charge. What makes you think we can actually win? Don't delude yourself. To answer your question, if winning means Failegri stays on (and possibly receives a contract extension), then I'd rather we don't win (but still make the CL). I am looking at the big picture here.
We are not winning - yeah probably.
I agree with your post but especially this part

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So you’d rather we win zero trophies than win the scudetto next year? Sounds about right for :J:“fans” today lol
I can understand him though. Allegri`s system doesnt really produce great football and we always dream about a good Juve both in terms of football and in terms of results.
With Allegri you know results might come and might not but the football thing... highly unlikely.
Everyone here want us to win trophies but there is also the question of - Would you suffer one season in order to make the team much better - My answer is yes and it seems his is the same.
 

Tak!

Senior Member
Jun 23, 2011
4,191
#93
Agree with CL spot. Will look more OK when we sack Allegri and "thank him for all his efforts" but we've then given him three years and the decline has only continued. So Allegri can leave without looking terrible and he can't complain about not being given a fair chance since he was given it next season and still played dinoball. We will look more patient and graceful with the toddler.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
42,253
#94
We're not winning shit with the fucker in charge. What makes you think we can actually win? Don't delude yourself. To answer your question, if winning means Failegri stays on (and possibly receives a contract extension), then I'd rather we don't win (but still make the CL). I am looking at the big picture here.
Nah. You’re as ridiculous as the couple people still saying Allegri is great. Actively wishing we don’t win. Talk about pathetic :lol:

I don’t care who the coach is. I want us to win. I hope Allegri is sacked for his failures, but I’m not going to stop hoping we win lol
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
40,182
#95
Nah. You’re as ridiculous as the couple people still saying Allegri is great. Actively wishing we don’t win. Talk about pathetic :lol:

I don’t care who the coach is. I want us to win. I hope Allegri is sacked for his failures, but I’m not going to stop hoping we win lol
If we win, and Failegr gets an extension until 2027, is it really a win?

I don't want us to win and then fall back into obscurity. What's the point of enjoying fleeting success? I'd rather it be sustained. It's really not that difficult to comprehend.

You're short sighted, and that's fine. It doesn't mean you have to shit on other people because they disagree with you.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
#97
If we win, and Failegr gets an extension until 2027, is it really a win?

I don't want us to win and then fall back into obscurity. What's the point of enjoying fleeting success? I'd rather it be sustained. It's really not that difficult to comprehend.

You're short sighted, and that's fine. It doesn't mean you have to shit on other people because they disagree with you.
Oh please, you shit on everybody who disagrees with you about any player/coach/manager/etc. Hypocrite :touched:

And nah, I will cheer for us to win always. Y’all think we change coach and magically we’re better and winning shit again. Sustained success. What a dumb notion. There’s no guarantee a new coach won’t do worse.

I will always cheer for our current coach to get results. I did with Del Neri, with Conte, with Allegri, with Sarri, with Pirlo. As long as a coach is on the touch line for Juve, I’m hoping they succeed. If I’m not cheering for Juve to win trophies, I’d quit watching the sport. So for as long as these fools keep Allegri on our bench, I will cheer for him to get his shit back together and Juve to win every competition we are in. And if winning major trophies like scudetto means they don’t fire him, so be it.
 

Mokku

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2019
2,751
#99
It's like the last years of Wenger at Arsenal, people scapegoated him way too much. The bigger picture is that Allegri will have to go, we'll have to change our transfer policy, sort our finances out, and just break down some of our barriers ie, hiring only Italian managers, for us to succeed.

A good transfer window might be what Allegri needs to return to winning ways but he'll fall short and it's at that moment, we make the right choice to replace him. Allegri is just one of many dickheads at the club but right now, we should focus on improving the whole club. I'd love Zidane but the squad isn't right for him to work his CL magic whereas it's perfect for De Zerbi to change our style, but at the cost of not winning anything.
 
Jul 13, 2010
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It's like the last years of Wenger at Arsenal, people scapegoated him way too much. The bigger picture is that Allegri will have to go, we'll have to change our transfer policy, sort our finances out, and just break down some of our barriers ie, hiring only Italian managers, for us to succeed.

A good transfer window might be what Allegri needs to return to winning ways but he'll fall short and it's at that moment, we make the right choice to replace him. Allegri is just one of many dickheads at the club but right now, we should focus on improving the whole club. I'd love Zidane but the squad isn't right for him to work his CL magic whereas it's perfect for De Zerbi to change our style, but at the cost of not winning anything.
The management has changed, Guintoli came, and we are still being linked with noname Real Betis rotation players for 40M. Maybe the media has to do their part as well, stop associating us with shit all the time.
 

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