Yeah, got rid of Danilo for no reason at all, only to sign a dunderhead Englishman who can't even play sawker.
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soule 21 years turning 22 in april. stats 3 goals + 1 assist in 28 matches.
nico gonzalez 26 years old turning 27 in april. stats 3 goals + 4 assists in 25 matches.
one was free and higher potential due to his age for plusvalenza. one cost almost 40m and has been a bad signing.
what was reason again for giving away soule
nico gonzalez 26 years old turning 27 in april. stats 3 goals + 4 assists in 25 matches.
one was free and higher potential due to his age for plusvalenza. one cost almost 40m and has been a bad signing.
what was reason again for giving away soule
Plusvalenza and experience , depth for many positions in attack as Soule mainly play as right winger only. and he scored 16 goals and 5 assists last season, and 14 goals and 5 assists the season before that
So it is kind of right to expect that he will add the club around the same goals and assists output when we get him. And considering those numbers 40m seems cheap(8m per year for 5 years). But it is clearly there is something wrong in the PRIME water that they drank this season, probably it makes all of them play like shit
So it is kind of right to expect that he will add the club around the same goals and assists output when we get him. And considering those numbers 40m seems cheap(8m per year for 5 years). But it is clearly there is something wrong in the PRIME water that they drank this season, probably it makes all of them play like shit
Saviour from napoli right? You wanted him, you got him. Hatted this guy since the time he was firstly mentioned here. When I tought we dont have money to spend, I said what can we do, lets give him a chance...After spending more than 200mill for pathetic players, he just confirmed my doubts. Incompetent napoletano who should be shoot dead in the streets of turin.
Juergen Klopp
Probably the best choice, good man management, love by his players, good with youngsters. Experienced, win at high level. Probably the cons our players not ready physically for his approach (style of play), but this can be train. But with our current state of JMedical, the wave of injuries probably can be double fold. So we need a bigger squad to compensate. And he probably will command a pretty high salary, something that can be obstacle if we penny pinching. he seems loved everywhere we go, so this is probably the best trait from him. And never in my life I saw an ex coach sing a song for someone who will replace him LOL, its like he thinks what is good for the club more in grandeur aspect
Xavi Hernandez
His winning percentage is pretty high, but he really inexperience outside of his comfort zone (Barcelona), really not count his day as coach at Middle East, can be double edge sword for us, dont think we ready to gamble for this kind of approach, will be a year zero again if this fail
De Zerbi
Looks like he will be the one that have high priorities. Italian, play modern football, but his records seems inconsistent and probably we have just a slighly nomaden Motta in the process with him. It is about the player can play his system or not, even his Sassuolo record is somehow below average. Looks like Marseille is on of the training ground for our potential coach
Igor Tudor
High probability, he knows Juventus well, his coaching record seems so-so, but he is really good to come as short term solution, but not really have what it takes to manage a full season especially with all the ups and lows, hectic schedule, and probably he had some temper, this can be good, but can be backfire (poor man Conte). Can be consider as a short term solution if we really want UCL spot. But for long term seems inadequate
Unai Emery
One of the most stable coach, has experience managing top players with their high egos (his PSG days, Arsenal), he seems to know how to win (he win several Europa League). Can maximize the result from the squad that available to him. If we just want some stability, consistency and get to UCL every season he can be the one to go to. Good as the stepping stone manager before we get the elite one. But it will feel seems like he can be better, but we can get better coach than him (seems good but not good enough for our needs)
I personally really dont want to take Conte/Allegri route again, expecting a new idea from foreign coach (okay-ish for Tudor short term, but dont really excited with De Zerbi). And I dont think this squad is ready for Zidane approach right now, maybe after we can display high energy gameplay, maybe it will be a great project to brought the club to another height
Maybe this should move to Future coach thread, but I am to lazy to copy paste after I put all of these informations
Probably the best choice, good man management, love by his players, good with youngsters. Experienced, win at high level. Probably the cons our players not ready physically for his approach (style of play), but this can be train. But with our current state of JMedical, the wave of injuries probably can be double fold. So we need a bigger squad to compensate. And he probably will command a pretty high salary, something that can be obstacle if we penny pinching. he seems loved everywhere we go, so this is probably the best trait from him. And never in my life I saw an ex coach sing a song for someone who will replace him LOL, its like he thinks what is good for the club more in grandeur aspect
Xavi Hernandez
His winning percentage is pretty high, but he really inexperience outside of his comfort zone (Barcelona), really not count his day as coach at Middle East, can be double edge sword for us, dont think we ready to gamble for this kind of approach, will be a year zero again if this fail
De Zerbi
Looks like he will be the one that have high priorities. Italian, play modern football, but his records seems inconsistent and probably we have just a slighly nomaden Motta in the process with him. It is about the player can play his system or not, even his Sassuolo record is somehow below average. Looks like Marseille is on of the training ground for our potential coach
Igor Tudor
High probability, he knows Juventus well, his coaching record seems so-so, but he is really good to come as short term solution, but not really have what it takes to manage a full season especially with all the ups and lows, hectic schedule, and probably he had some temper, this can be good, but can be backfire (poor man Conte). Can be consider as a short term solution if we really want UCL spot. But for long term seems inadequate
Unai Emery
One of the most stable coach, has experience managing top players with their high egos (his PSG days, Arsenal), he seems to know how to win (he win several Europa League). Can maximize the result from the squad that available to him. If we just want some stability, consistency and get to UCL every season he can be the one to go to. Good as the stepping stone manager before we get the elite one. But it will feel seems like he can be better, but we can get better coach than him (seems good but not good enough for our needs)
I personally really dont want to take Conte/Allegri route again, expecting a new idea from foreign coach (okay-ish for Tudor short term, but dont really excited with De Zerbi). And I dont think this squad is ready for Zidane approach right now, maybe after we can display high energy gameplay, maybe it will be a great project to brought the club to another height
Maybe this should move to Future coach thread, but I am to lazy to copy paste after I put all of these informations
The fact he managed to waste a whole summer mercatto and most of our budget on a player that not only went on to flop here but afterwards also played a part in recording our most humiliating loss at home since the 1960’s against the same Atalanta team that was supposed to be weakened and whom did everything in their power to outprice and not sell the player to us makes it even the more mind boggling.
Giuntoli spoke to the team: the message after Juventus-Atalanta
After Juventus-Empoli, in addition to Thiago Motta's strong words, there had been public statements from Cristiano Giuntoli the following day, as well as an intervention from the club, which had spoken to the team. However, after the collapse against Atalanta, the situation was handled differently. Aside from the usual discussions between Motta and the team—which happen daily and always after matches—there were no statements from the higher-ups.
The only person, besides the coach, to address the team was Giuntoli, who spoke to the players. What was the message from the director? No accusations, no harsh criticism towards the players—just words meant to bring the group together, uniting all parties involved for the final stretch of the season. It was also a way to focus solely on the present, at least in the immediate term, protecting Thiago Motta’s position, which has been the subject of much speculation about his future.
Juventus has taken a generally "soft" approach—at least in terms of words—in response to one of the most difficult nights, not only of this season but in the club’s history. Whether this is the right strategy will be determined on the pitch, starting with the upcoming away match against Fiorentina. After the Empoli match, Juventus had bounced back in the league with a strong performance against Verona, which seemed to signal the start of something "new." However, that spark of enthusiasm was short-lived, as reality quickly set in again.
From this perspective, it feels like Juventus is navigating without a clear direction, trying different approaches to find a way to support a team that has clearly shown mental fragility.
[ilbianconerocom]
At Continassa, a Test Day was held to assess the physical condition of Juventus players. During the session, the athletes performed MAP Tests, which help measure VO2 max, the maximum oxygen consumption during intense effort—an essential parameter for evaluating aerobic power.
The goal of these tests is to monitor the team’s athletic condition two-thirds into the season, providing crucial data to optimize training and manage player performance effectively.
But what does this really mean? We had it explained by Francesco Simone, athletic trainer and personal coach.
TEST AT CONTINASSA - “This is a test that has already been conducted. It’s a MAP test to determine maximum oxygen consumption. The players wear a mask, data is collected, and their oxygen consumption is measured. This value remains relatively constant over time, and from it, we can derive other important metrics for a footballer, such as metabolic power.
In simple terms, it helps determine a player’s ‘engine capacity’ and the threshold level beyond which the body can no longer use oxygen and starts relying on emergency fuels like lactic acid. This threshold is crucial for an athlete. If the athlete were a ship, it would represent the cruising speed beyond which the engines overheat.
It’s not an emergency test—it doesn’t provide a health assessment but rather a performance level.”
WAS THIS TEST PLANNED? - “Given the type of test, I’d say it was scheduled. It was conducted at the start of the season and is now being repeated two-thirds into the season.”
WHAT IS THE TEAM’S FITNESS LEVEL? - “The number of injuries is extremely high across all teams, and that’s an objective fact. Moreover, running levels and intensity depend not only on athletic condition but also on mental and physical well-being. Running less doesn’t necessarily mean having less energy—it could be due to mental fatigue. Many factors come into play; the mind controls everything.”
KOOPMEINERS - “Gasperini described Koopmeiners as an athlete with very high aerobic power. That means he performs well, tires later, and can run a lot. He does cover a lot of ground, but I find his style a bit monotonous.
Let’s not forget two things: he missed preseason training with the team and worked alone with his own methods, which we don’t know. And we must not underestimate his rib injury—breathing is affected, and that has an impact on performance.”
WILL THIS HAVE LONG-TERM EFFECTS? - “Nothing is certain, but it could have had an impact. It definitely plays a role.”
[ilbianconerocom]
After Juventus-Empoli, in addition to Thiago Motta's strong words, there had been public statements from Cristiano Giuntoli the following day, as well as an intervention from the club, which had spoken to the team. However, after the collapse against Atalanta, the situation was handled differently. Aside from the usual discussions between Motta and the team—which happen daily and always after matches—there were no statements from the higher-ups.
The only person, besides the coach, to address the team was Giuntoli, who spoke to the players. What was the message from the director? No accusations, no harsh criticism towards the players—just words meant to bring the group together, uniting all parties involved for the final stretch of the season. It was also a way to focus solely on the present, at least in the immediate term, protecting Thiago Motta’s position, which has been the subject of much speculation about his future.
Juventus has taken a generally "soft" approach—at least in terms of words—in response to one of the most difficult nights, not only of this season but in the club’s history. Whether this is the right strategy will be determined on the pitch, starting with the upcoming away match against Fiorentina. After the Empoli match, Juventus had bounced back in the league with a strong performance against Verona, which seemed to signal the start of something "new." However, that spark of enthusiasm was short-lived, as reality quickly set in again.
From this perspective, it feels like Juventus is navigating without a clear direction, trying different approaches to find a way to support a team that has clearly shown mental fragility.
[ilbianconerocom]
At Continassa, a Test Day was held to assess the physical condition of Juventus players. During the session, the athletes performed MAP Tests, which help measure VO2 max, the maximum oxygen consumption during intense effort—an essential parameter for evaluating aerobic power.
The goal of these tests is to monitor the team’s athletic condition two-thirds into the season, providing crucial data to optimize training and manage player performance effectively.
But what does this really mean? We had it explained by Francesco Simone, athletic trainer and personal coach.
TEST AT CONTINASSA - “This is a test that has already been conducted. It’s a MAP test to determine maximum oxygen consumption. The players wear a mask, data is collected, and their oxygen consumption is measured. This value remains relatively constant over time, and from it, we can derive other important metrics for a footballer, such as metabolic power.
In simple terms, it helps determine a player’s ‘engine capacity’ and the threshold level beyond which the body can no longer use oxygen and starts relying on emergency fuels like lactic acid. This threshold is crucial for an athlete. If the athlete were a ship, it would represent the cruising speed beyond which the engines overheat.
It’s not an emergency test—it doesn’t provide a health assessment but rather a performance level.”
WAS THIS TEST PLANNED? - “Given the type of test, I’d say it was scheduled. It was conducted at the start of the season and is now being repeated two-thirds into the season.”
WHAT IS THE TEAM’S FITNESS LEVEL? - “The number of injuries is extremely high across all teams, and that’s an objective fact. Moreover, running levels and intensity depend not only on athletic condition but also on mental and physical well-being. Running less doesn’t necessarily mean having less energy—it could be due to mental fatigue. Many factors come into play; the mind controls everything.”
KOOPMEINERS - “Gasperini described Koopmeiners as an athlete with very high aerobic power. That means he performs well, tires later, and can run a lot. He does cover a lot of ground, but I find his style a bit monotonous.
Let’s not forget two things: he missed preseason training with the team and worked alone with his own methods, which we don’t know. And we must not underestimate his rib injury—breathing is affected, and that has an impact on performance.”
WILL THIS HAVE LONG-TERM EFFECTS? - “Nothing is certain, but it could have had an impact. It definitely plays a role.”
[ilbianconerocom]
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This cunt needs to go before he does more damage.
Throwing millions at Osimhen and Fucko from Feyonoord does not improve this team.
It's like he playing Football Manager with all these bullshit loan deals and market opportunities. I haven't seen a sporting direction or any real strategy, unless the objective is finish 4th every year.
In a proper organisation, he would be on a performance plan already and be micromanaged the fuck out.
Throwing millions at Osimhen and Fucko from Feyonoord does not improve this team.
It's like he playing Football Manager with all these bullshit loan deals and market opportunities. I haven't seen a sporting direction or any real strategy, unless the objective is finish 4th every year.
In a proper organisation, he would be on a performance plan already and be micromanaged the fuck out.
He should be the first in the chopping list. His high profile signings turned out to be a complete bust. 100m down the drain. If he were to get fired now, a new GM would need few seasons to clean up the mess. We are in a delicate financial situation with a little margin for errors. However, he is squandering money at incredible rate. Everytime this guys goes to the market, we are robbed blind.
Do you not think that a well-chosen coach appointment could make the most of our most expensive new players? If we hire well in that department I don't think the cleanup will need to be as extensive. Only Gonzalez and Vlahovic will be the must-sells besides Kelly and Co and with Bremer back we'd only need to bolster the defence a little and sign a backup striker to Kolo.
Giuntolli and well chosen coach appointment dont go together. A good manager will not work with Giuntolli. His track record of dealing with managers and players speaks volumes of his character. Instead of shaking hands, this guy hits you in the back on your way out. This is not a making of a strong leader but a coward. Any coach this guy would appoint has to resemble his character flaws. Appointing a person with a strong character would make Giuntolli feel weak in that relationship.