[Coppa] Parma vs Juventus (14 Viewers)

[Jun-hide]

I don't know about Lyon, I very rarely watched Ligue 1, if at all, but from what I remember from Chelsea he was quite effective at distributing the ball. Surely, nothing fancy but he always knew where to give it most effectivelly. Sometimes that be to the closest player to him and sometimes a nice through ball all the way to the forwards.

Either way, our central midfield this season will definetly be a lot more balanced than the Capello era midfield. I didn't wanna say anything about Emo and Vieria, because they're both WC midfielders at the end of the day, but I'm glad you brought it up. That central midfield was hailed by the media and pundits as one of the best, like it's a mouthwatering combination of skill and defensive abilities, when truth be told, it was probably the most unbalanced combination ever. There was zero threat coming from there, both in terms of passing(except a nice through ball by Vieira here and there) and especially shooting. Tiago and Almiron are quite the opposite of the two and though not as much, they are also a unbalanced combination because they lack that defensive assurance which central midfield needs to give. Both are average defensivelly but with the inclusion of either Zanetti or Nocerino that central midfield gets a whole dimension. When Tiago hits form, and I'm sure he will, I'm really eager to see a 4-3-3 or a 4-5-1, 3m-man midfield of Tiago, Almiron and Zanetti/Nocerino. I really think that can work for us, with the only downside being that DP would have to be utilised more on the wing.

Well I am not a avid watcher of Lyon, so I cant claim to know how well Tiago played. But from what I have seen their played a style with extremely well defined roles, and Tiago being on those Nedved type who does bit of everything.

For our midfield, yes we definetely unbalanced with Almiron and Tiago. So we will need somebody like Zanetti or Nocerino. Right now, despite Nocerino's rugged looks, I am not entirely convinced about his positioning and more importantly tackles. So Zanetti has to get the nod at this moment in time. So I feel the last spot will be a battle between Tiago and Nocerino. I really hope as a Juve fan Tiago hits his form. Because that means (1) if Nocerino wins starting spot, he is earning it by developing himself, and (2) if Tiago wins it, he is just a better player ATM. So its a win and win situation for us fans, as long as nobody sulks. I say Ranieri should rotate those two a bit, and try to get competition going between those two. And Ranieri isnt known as "Tinker-man" without any reasons. . In the long run though, Nocerino can move to DM, so I see no eternal conflict between two players.

Just to point out though, anyone expecting a failure from Iaquinta and Tiago just to prove their point is not being loyal to the club. I didnt want either of them in Mercato, but they are here, and that is what counts. I don't have huge expectation of them, but I sure hope they succeed in Bianconeri shirt.

 

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[ZhiXin]

Well I am not a avid watcher of Lyon, so I cant claim to know how well Tiago played. But from what I have seen their played a style with extremely well defined roles, and Tiago being on those Nedved type who does bit of everything.

For our midfield, yes we definetely unbalanced with Almiron and Tiago. So we will need somebody like Zanetti or Nocerino. Right now, despite Nocerino's rugged looks, I am not entirely convinced about his positioning and more importantly tackles. So Zanetti has to get the nod at this moment in time. So I feel the last spot will be a battle between Tiago and Nocerino. I really hope as a Juve fan Tiago hits his form. Because that means (1) if Nocerino wins starting spot, he is earning it by developing himself, and (2) if Tiago wins it, he is just a better player ATM. So its a win and win situation for us fans, as long as nobody sulks. I say Ranieri should rotate those two a bit, and try to get competition going between those two. And Ranieri isnt known as "Tinker-man" without any reasons. . In the long run though, Nocerino can move to DM, so I see no eternal conflict between two players.

Just to point out though, anyone expecting a failure from Iaquinta and Tiago just to prove their point is not being loyal to the club. I didnt want either of them in Mercato, but they are here, and that is what counts. I don't have huge expectation of them, but I sure hope they succeed in Bianconeri shirt.

I will take it that Ranieri is trying his best to adapt to the injury list since he is playing Brazzo as RB and Nocerino as RM. Injuries to both RMs, Birindelli, Grygera + Criscito is quite a problem so Ranieri is forced to play his cards in a other way. But it paid off quite well.

About Tiago, Scolari has always highlighted that he is a player who always gives 70& - 85% in his games, and it turns out to be good. I believe that Tiago has much more to offer than what he has right now. But the good thing is, his NT and fellow countryman Andrade is with hin in Juventus, so he should be settling in Juventus in no time. Right now I will say that he is a back-up for Zanetti, but as time goes by, and a long season, he can take up his space

Nocerino is no doubt a talented player in his age, but he is always played out of position, central midfield should suit him as this is where he displays his most dangerous play, as shown in Piacienza + Azzurrini. His performance will definitely be below expectations if he plays out of position. I will think that since both RMs are injured, so he is delpoyed there. But as long as he hacks down players, I will give him a 6 anytime of the day for his performance.

Midfield-wise, I will say the Almiron - Zanetti partnership is the best, 1 go up and distributes the balls + take free kicks, the other defends, good play. Tiago + Nocerino still have convinced me YET, but time will tell, since the former 2 has an abundance of Serie A experience.

I prefer a 4-3-3 formation, but due to limitations in our squad, I can only say 4-4-2, as long as the game play is good and adventurous and defence is solid as a rock, I will give a thumbs up

 

[Dominic]

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I dont remember agreeing with Dom so much !!

Shit, that's just wrong. I think I just saw a pig flying past my window!

 

[Snoop]

 

[sateeh]

for the guys that saw the game, did we always play short and in swinging free kicks or was it different than the Livorno game ?

 

[Juve per sempre]

for the guys that saw the game, did we always play short and in swinging free kicks or was it different than the Livorno game ?

All of the free kicks were taken by Almiron & most of them were directly played to the goal!

 

[sateeh]

All of the free kicks were taken by Almiron & most of them were directly played to the goal!

ohh shite! i meant corners sorry