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Gill_juve

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May 29, 2006
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you can say what you want.. but we scored at least 3 goals today... so dont talk about bad play etc. because we would be the winner in this match if it wasn't for the ref...
well should we concede to parma in the way we did? no, sure the ref was shit but we are superior to them and shouldnt pussy foot around like this. and from what i have heard from others, our defense was shite.
 

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petersmit

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Mar 14, 2006
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indeed... i have heard it too... but we should have won the match.. and that is what it's all about today... (yes today.. because im also worried about the next match with our current defense)
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
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Our performance was awful yes, but that still doesn´t justify the fact that we were robbed today. We should have went home with 3 points, one way or another.
 

JuveAdam

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Sep 12, 2006
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We were woeful, but the goal should have stood, & Parma pen was soft, screwed yet again by the bitterness of Calciopoli, it will be like this for quite a while, get used to it.
 
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Moratti is screwing us right now.
buying the ref where Juventus is playing.

THE MOFO


in this season we were already robbed 4 times!!!

FIORENTINA
PARMA
NAPOLI
ROMA

we payed our debt a season ago!!
if we werent robbed in those matches we be nr.2 next to inter!!!
i think Moratti is behind al this.
 

JuveAdam

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Sep 12, 2006
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Moratti is screwing us right now.
buying the ref where Juventus is playing.
:disagree:

This is all a direct result of refs being scared to favour us in case they are banned for life, its the Calciopoli aftershock, its tremors will be felt for years, nothing even slightly dubious will go in our favour until we put distance between us & the scandal, time will help, but raging conspiracists will continue the cycle.
 
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    with stolen points

    Juventus 34 12
    Inter 25 11
    Fiorentina 22 12
    AS Roma 21 11
    Udinese 19 12
    Atalanta 18 11
    Palermo 18 12
    Sampdoria 17 12
    Catania 15
    AC Milan 14 11
    Genoa 14 12
    Torino 13 12
    Napoli 12 12
    Lazio 10 11
    Siena 9 12
    Cagliari 9 11
    Reggina 9 12
    Livorno 9 12
    Empoli 9 12
    Parma 9 12
     

    chester

    Too busy to bother
    May 20, 2006
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    Well, today we got ourselves new material for this thread. :D

    This thread will become very long until the end of season. And I doubt any other team have so many controversial events as we.

    Did anyone notice that? Every 2nd Juventus match ends as a thriller match with several goals scored, disallowed´s goals, red cards and non existant penalties.

    This can´t be a coincidence anymore......
    Especially in away matches the ref seems to be scared to give us the favour of a doubtfull decision.
    I said it once, will say it again: USE TV IMAGES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
     

    JuveAdam

    Moggi santo..subito
    Sep 12, 2006
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    Sorry Turk but this is all just :blah: :blah: :blah:

    We lost those games, like the 2 titles people need to realise are not coming back. This is the situation we are in, & will be for a long time to come yet. We, as Juve fans need to realise that, accept it, & move on knowing we are going to have to become so superior to other teams in order to win, because we are not going to start receiving favourable calls from the refs again for a long long time
     

    Quetzalcoatl

    It ain't hard to tell
    Aug 22, 2007
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    i was against tv replays before because of all that tradition bullshit, and that it might destroy the credibility of the game, but the credibility is at an all-time low. but now that we're getting fucked over every other week, BRING IN THE TV REPLAYS!
     

    RAMI-N

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    Aug 22, 2006
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    Sorry Turk but this is all just :blah: :blah: :blah:

    We lost those games, like the 2 titles people need to realise are not coming back. This is the situation we are in, & will be for a long time to come yet. We, as Juve fans need to realise that, accept it, & move on knowing we are going to have to become so superior to other teams in order to win, because we are not going to start receiving favourable calls from the refs again for a long long time
    But we are not asking for favorablr calls from refs!!! We are asking for our legit goals to stand and false PKs not to be called against us!
     

    Red

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Moratti is screwing us right now.
    buying the ref where Juventus is playing.

    THE MOFO


    in this season we were already robbed 4 times!!!

    FIORENTINA
    PARMA
    NAPOLI
    ROMA

    we payed our debt a season ago!!
    if we werent robbed in those matches we be nr.2 next to inter!!!
    i think Moratti is behind al this.

    1. You can't prove Moratti has anything to with this. It just sounds pathetic and paranoid.

    2. You must be able to diffentiate between poor decisions and deliberately wrong decisions. Against Roma it was a very tight offside these things happen. Parma's pen it probably did look like a penalty from where the ref was.

    3. We were not robbed against Fiorentina. There penalty was corretly awarded.
     

    serfaraaz

    Senior Member
    Apr 14, 2005
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    1. You can't prove Moratti has anything to with this. It just sounds pathetic and paranoid.

    2. You must be able to diffentiate between poor decisions and deliberately wrong decisions. Against Roma it was a very tight offside these things happen. Parma's pen it probably did look like a penalty from where the ref was.

    3. We were not robbed against Fiorentina. There penalty was corretly awarded.
    oh come on these are soft penalties we have conceeded have juve ever recieved such type of penalty if moratti is not behind this who do u think is behind this
     

    Boksic

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    May 11, 2005
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    oh come on these are soft penalties we have conceeded have juve ever recieved such type of penalty if moratti is not behind this who do u think is behind this
    i think in most of the occasions the referees are saying to themselves "if in doubt blow against Juve" which is just wrong. A ref should be certain when making a decision about a penalty.

    Although i have to admit the Napoli game certainly seemed very suspicious
     

    serfaraaz

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    Apr 14, 2005
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    i think in most of the occasions the referees are saying to themselves "if in doubt blow against Juve" which is just wrong. A ref should be certain when making a decision about a penalty.

    Although i have to admit the Napoli game certainly seemed very suspicious
    i agree with u completely but some members are not accepting this fact
     

    JuveAdam

    Moggi santo..subito
    Sep 12, 2006
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    But we are not asking for favorablr calls from refs!!! We are asking for our legit goals to stand and false PKs not to be called against us!
    But this is what Im saying, for the forseeable future this is what Juve will have to contend with, the anti-moggi-poli if you will. If we are deemed to have had years of favourable calls, refs will go out of their way to give us exactly the opposite. Its like when a desicion goes against you & the cliche "they balance out over the season", this is our balance coming back to haunt us, we are seen as guilty, & the punishment is far more than a year in B.

    1. You can't prove Moratti has anything to with this.

    2. You must be able to diffentiate between poor decisions and deliberately wrong decisions.

    3. We were not robbed against Fiorentina.
    right on the :money:

    This is us for at least the rest of this year, if not more, get used to it
     

    gsol

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    Oct 14, 2007
    1,448
    The Fiorentina match is debatable too. Iaquinta’s goal was legitimized by Collina who stated that the position of Frey prohibited him from stopping the ball. If you look at an overview shot the ball goes in on the far post and he was positioned near the near side. If you take Trez out of the picture Frey still couldn’t have stopped it. The end result is that Trezeguet didn’t interfere with what would have likely been an inevitable goal. Had Frey been more centered the call would have been totally different.
    The penalty on Legrotaglie was also generous. I’m not disputing contact because that was evident but the FIFA rules explicitly say that for a penalty to be awarded the defender must demonstrate clear intent to make contact with the ball using his hand/arm. If you watch the play Legro’s arms are still as the ball approaches and his proximity to Vieri was too close to allow him time to avoid the contact. I know there are those that argue that a defenders arms shouldn’t be extended but FIFA does not state anywhere that a defenders arms have to be at his side. I’m with Turk on that one. It should have ended 1-0 Juve.
     
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