conte as team captain (2 Viewers)

[Slagathor]

Nah - I just didn't feel like typing some time-robbing statement in which I agree with you

 

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[Tom]

oh....:down:

 

[Ian]

++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++
I don't think he ever was the best, and there are certainly many better keepers out there than him

It's not that he is the best, but he is among the elite of top level keepers, saying he isn't is just false.

 

[Tom]

++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker2 ] ++
saying he isn't is just false.

in your opinion that is.

 

[Slagathor]

There are loads of better keepers out there: Casillas, Van der Sar, Buffon, Peruzzi, Zoetebier, Kahn etc. etc. etc.

 

[Ian]

Come on man, he is better than at least 90% of the keepers out there, and that is statisctically and the opinion of the majority of experts. I am not saying that you can't have a differing opinion, but you'd be taking it a bit far.

 

[Tom]

++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker2 ] ++
Come on man, he is better than at least 90% of the keepers out there, and that is statisctically and the opinion of the majority of experts. I am not saying that you can't have a differing opinion, but you'd be taking it a bit far.

Ok, he is better than a lot of keepers, but still there are a quite large number better than him

 

[Slagathor]

He is certainly not a BAD keeper but to say he's one of the best is just hilarious. I feel that all the keepers I mentioned a few posts back are better at the moment.

 

[Ian]

++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++
Ok, he is better than a lot of keepers, but still there are a quite large number better than him

Now that is truly a disputable matter of opinion.

 

[Tom]

alright here's a few

Dudek
Cudicini
Robinson
Given
Peruzzi
Buffon
Toldo
Abbiati
Antonioli
Molina
Frey
Canizares
VanDerSar
Casillas

I think these are all better than him, open to debate of course

 

[Ian]

++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++
alright here's a few

Dudek
Cudicini
Robinson
Given
Peruzzi
Buffon
Toldo
Abbiati
Antonioli
Molina
Frey
Canizares
VanDerSar
Casillas

I think these are all better than him, open to debate of course

Molina, Cudicini, Given, Abbiati, Antonioli, Frey and Robinson are all inferior to Seaman IMO.

 

[denco]

Antonioli and Molina are not goal keepers i can ever entrust with guarding my team and i would not say Seaman is worse than Given, Cudicini or Frey

 

[Slagathor]

Taking it one step further; who do you think would be a suitable replacement for the English NT? David James?

 

[Ian]

++ [ originally posted by ErikP ] ++
Taking it one step further; who do you think would be a suitable replacement for the English NT? David James?

No, he is too hot headed, and proned to blunders as such. Paul Robinson is the best replacement if you want to replace him, but at this point, there is no one better.

 

[Slagathor]

Just asking He has to be replaced at some point in the not too distant future if you consider his age

 

[Ian]

this is true, but it is a tough decision.

 

[Slagathor]

Perhaps denco can give us some more insight...

 

[Ian]

Well, I'm going to ignore that you said Denco, and offer some insight myself:

David Seaman is the best England has at the moment, but he isn't getting any younger or better.

Davids James might be better than Seaman, but he does not have the temperment to deal with the pressure of international matches.

Nigel Martyn is a good solid keeper, but he is inexperienced at the International level, and there are some doubts about his reflexes.

Richard Wright was supposed to replace Seaman, but he has performed terribly since moving to Arsenal and since leaving.

Paul Robinson is young and improving, but he is not quite as good as Seaman, and he needs more international experience.

 

[Slagathor]

I like James best out of that list but favour Martyn for the job really...

 

[denco]

++ [ originally posted by ErikP ] ++
Perhaps denco can give us some more insight...

I would love to but i think this conversation belongs in the Epl thread and i think they have had a convo like that there