Conspiracy? HELL YEAH!!!! (2 Viewers)

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
56,857
#1
Disclaimer: If you are ill at ease because of Italy's premature exit from Euro2004 or KoreaJapan02, you shall discontinue reading this post.

Another day, another disappointment. Such is the emotion of devoted Italian football fans. How could it be that this nation so great, mother to some of the finest footballers on Earth, has been eliminated and humiliated once again? I struggle to fathom this most unprecedented turn of events. How can it be that time and time again it happens to us? We have the best players, we have the best coaches, we have the best tactic! How can we always lose out at the finish line? How can we get so close without winning??? Where could the answer to this excruciating riddle lie? And before you can say eureka, the answer is there for all to see. It's not me, it's you!!

Who else could be to blame for the line of underachievement held up since 1982? Our most thorough soul searching is complete, we found nada. It can't be us, it has to be the universe conspiring against us! Like a bolt of lightning through the masses, at this instant we are all in agreement. Whoever is responsible for this, it's not me!!

I am here, my children, to unveil a far more disastrous conspiracy. One that isn't based on poor logic and the rejection of guilt. One that has us all bamboozled. One that is the plaything of rich men. One that is so devious, so conniving that only the purest of mind can penetrate its fortress, but even for them it takes years. If you have been saying all along that something isn't right, something stinks, I am here to tell you that you've been right all along!

There is a conspiracy in place right as we speak. One that has caused premature Italian elimination from 2 consecutive international tournaments. One whose scale rivals the "WMD in Iraq" scam. Let us examine them case by case.

KoreaJapan2002
For those of us who saw the opening match, there were so many reasons why Italia would never go far in the tournament. First of all, Trap's tactics were pathetic and his pet Totti, who was trusted to cure hunger on Earth, didn't come close to being the genius he was made out to be. With each game came a new opponent and Italy self destructed under Trap. Then it was set for the fateful encounter against Korea, the host nation. Italy, as usual with their dreadful football, Korea filled with hope over what could be. A handful of incidents then decided the game.

Skipper Maldini, capped over 100 times, decided to jump with public enemy number one Ahn. His countless years of experience and his undeniable elegance and skill somehow didn't kick in on this occasion and the header was lost to the Korean forward. The rest, as they say, is history. Now why did Maldini refuse to cut out the cross? Something very suspicious about this, of all times to drop the ball this is when he chose to do it??? I DON'T BUY IT!

But hang on, that's not all. Messiah Totti was already carded when he was shoved in the Korean penalty box. What came to be an incredible surprise of a nation, his longterm, well respected career theatrics were not disregarded on this occasion, and the referee assuming he decided to throw himself to the ground like he was in mortal danger (like he had done several times already in the tournament) didn't buy it and Totti was awarded with his second yellow card. Say what you want about Totti, but he's not dumb enough to protest booked for diving when he escapes the rightful punishment time and time again. He must have known it would come back to bite him in the ass sooner or later. But wait, there's more!!

Finally, in the closing minutes of the game, Italian gladiator Bobo Vieri came inches from levelling the score. He missed a simple tap in that would have sent Italy back into the match. OR DID HE???? How is it possible that a fantastic striker like Vieri, who had been the go-to-guy since '98 and scored whenever Italia needed a goal missed such a simple shot? How could it be that Italia's 3 most influential players decided to mess up ALL AT THE SAME TIME???

Euro2004
Wow, if you think that was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet! 2 years down the road, when everyone was satisfied blaming mr. Byron Moreno for Italia's every shortcoming had become a national tradition, the Azzurri embarked upon another glorious campaign. The conquest of Europe, Roma victor!!! No, it went not so. In the first match against Denmark, Trap fielded the most sought after trident of attackers. Italy was salivating at the thought of these 3 great heroes tearing the opposition apart. But we didn't have to wait long for another round of disappointment. The only thing that tore that night was a few too many braincells inside Totti's melon. OR DID THEY??? Do you really thing Totti is dumb enough to risk a sending off in his very first game AND spit at the opponent on SEVERAL occasions, knowing full well what the consequences would be? I DON'T BUY IT! His half ass performance on the pitch was evidence enough that something was amiss, but the spitting only piled up on top of the other items on my evidence table.

The came Sweden, just back in town from wiping the floor with Bulgaria, which would be Italia's next pleasure after this. Once again, Trap had bowed to pressure and made the changes wanted by the people. Pirlo and Gattuso started, it was all good. But the pressure they put on the Swedish never came to anything. Folk hero Bobo Vieri AGAIN missed at least 3 clear chances to score. OR DID HE??? Funny isn't it, that you can always count on Vieri to score, except when Italia depends on him the most! I DON'T BUY IT! So did the others step up? Not at all, apparently they had their orders. And I think we all know who the least disciplined and least likely to follow orders is among the Azzurri. None other than Antonio Cassano. Yes, he scored but to make up for it, the world's best goalkeeper Buffon, working side by side with the world's best defence, decided to mess up yet again to see Zlatan score the equalizer. WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!!!

Finally Bulgaria, and this match didn't mean anything as long as Sweden and Denmark would tie. Anothing inspiring performance from the Italian gladiators saw them earn their first win in the tournament, some way into injury time. Once again it was Cassano who rebelled! But it didn't mean anything since the Scandinavians excused themselves from the loser's table and were seated in the quarter final section. At this point, there was one common thought in all of Italy. The sms messages buzzed incessantly and the message was the same in each one. "Grab your flamethrower, let's torch their Viking ships!"

Ah, the smell of being cheated once again. But what do these Italian heroes have in common. What could they possibly gain from messing up their chances time and again. What could someone possibly gain from eliminating the Azzurri over and over again in controversial circumstances?

Elementary, my children. Anyone ever remotely associated with publishing will tell you that bad news sell the sh!t out of good news. The Italian media is nothing more than a toy in the hands of one man who controls it. His objective is conquest, his treasure is money. And he's VERY good at what he does. Ask yourself, what is the one thing you expect to come out of a rich man's mouth. "I want more money!" But before we unmask this villain of sorts, let's go deeper with our deductions. How in the world could it be possible to dupe an entire nation into the collective mentality of "it's not our fault" when the evidence is so solid? Oh it's possible!

It's blatantly obvious that Italy were meant to lose out in the Far East, it was seen from day one. And the anger from Euro2000 hadn't quite settled yet, so it was fuel to the fire. This evil man decided that disappointment with a twist of conspiracy would sell much better than just pure disappointment. Italy were surely dreadful but to put a spin on it, he went out to recruit the most obscure and questionable referee of them all. You see, all the others were respected professionals in their countries. But mr. Moreno already had a past one could point to. The perfect choice. Who better to carry the blame of a nation than a referee? From all the stories we've read and the cartoons we've seen on tv, we all know very well that the mastermind criminal can't do all his damage on his own. He has to find a halfwit to do the dirty work for him, one he can afford to lose and pin all the blame on. Byron Moreno is no mastermind, he was the perfect choice for our villain. A handsome financial reward and it was settled. Mr. Moreno would forever be the scapegoat of 2002. And how we love a scapegoat, what would we ever do without one? There's nothing more satisfying than having a single person to pin all the blame on. We look upon thee with all our disgust and say as one "You are an immoral man, shame on you!"

Very well, we have our scapegoat. But Moreno himself is still a halfwit, how could he alone eliminate the Azzurri? The answer is: HE DIDN'T! Just imagine how many papers were sold on the images and caricatures of Moreno taking money from the Korean FA. How many tv shows were aired with this being their #1 topic? How many advertisers got their money from people watching these shows? How much debate was had IN THE MEDIA over this? Then ask yourself this: who else (apart from our secret villain) could benefit from this media circus? We all know sponsorship from tv is not what it was a few years ago, Italian clubs are in decline financially, players are taking pay cuts. WHO IS GONNA COVER THE DOWN PAYMENT ON MY 3RD FERRARI? Yes, ladies and gentlemen, that is the question. The story of Byron Moreno had the potential to be milked by all the parties involved and the poor Azzurri, who had been on the brink of chapter 11 were glad to be part of it. Why did Maldini let Ahn score? Why did Vieri miss the open net? Bonus time, that's why. Take as much cash as you can carry (where do you think "cash and carry" came from?), there's enough for everyone!

This is the awful truth. Our heroes, our idols. They profit at our expense. 2 years down the road, it's the same old story. Did Totti really lose him mind? No, noone is that dumb, Totti's business sense is very intact. His image of a dumb guy publishing books of self ridicule is the perfect front!! And Vieri isn't bad enough to miss all those chances when it really matters, he likes money better. Or why else would he say he's prefer playing cricket if the money was as good? And Buffon then? Why didn't he clear the ball and let Zlatan score? He's a big spender. By the time his check from Juve HQ arrives, he's living on bread and water because he can't make it last. And lastly, how do you explain that Italy's most successful coach ever has gone on to torture the nation for 4 years running? Could it be money? I'll leave you to answer that question.

Now then, that we've proven the case beyond any doubt, it's time to unveil the mastermind of this scheme. The man who craves power and constantly wants more. The man who is responsible for your pain and suffering as a devoted football fanatic.

 

kweku

Junior Member
Jul 20, 2002
167
#6
Seems like we are losing the point off the thread already Martin ;)
So I´ll post this that posted in the other thread.

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Conspiracy some of you people say? Because the danish people had a special camera for Totti? I guees they told Totti to spit aswell? I guees they told him to make that crazy tackle aswell? he should of had a red card for that challenge, but what does he do? he starts discussing with the ref, anyways he should of been suspended for the Sweden game anyway, but I guees its Sweden and Denmark fault that he spat and tackled?

the new designed shoes from nike who made is feet feel hot probably was probably made by a person from Denmark or Sweden! The sunlight in Portugal is a special one, the nordic people probably did something with it to make it more hot and thats why Totti did what he did.

In the Sweden-Italy game the italian assistant must of been Swedish and thats why he told Trap to swap Cassano who was destroying the swedish defence and then decided to swap Dp aswell and putting in more defesive players. He said to Trap lets play with defensive tactics, because he knew that this tactics would benefit his native country Sweden, because this tactics hasn´t worked for years. But Trap thought, this is the way that I won my trophies back in the 70s and 80s it might still work. He was asleep during the Euro 2000 so he didn´t see the final. So he decided for the defensive tactics and ooops Sweden scores.

At the press conference afterwards, the Italians players just hopes that the Denmark-Sweden game its going to be fair one, otherwise its a conspiracy, so it wont be thier fault if they are kicked out the tournament.
The game finishes 2-2, the Italians was right this has been a nordic conspiracy from the beginning, it just so sad that they didn´t get the chance to play neither Denmark or Sweden. Its a shame the Denmark-Sweden game didn´t finish 1-1 because the Italians would of been playing in the quarterfinals, oh no hold on, they wouldn´t 2-1 wasn´t enough, maybe its a good thing the game finished 2-2, know we have somebody blame, beacuse there was now way they could of do anything to stop this conspiracy is there? Its not like they actually got the chance to play Sweden or Denmark now did they?
but hey, actually playing the games has nothing to do with it, its better to talk about the games!

Yours truly Kweku!
 
Jan 7, 2004
29,704
#9
++ [ originally posted by vitoria_Ally ] ++
Martin, too much free time in hands, eh? :D

I will read everything later, I started, looks interesting.

actually after the middle it becomes the same story :LOL:


which is what the article is all about dont get me wrong. it is a great article
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,030
#10
Hmmm, deceiving thread title, article filled with sarcasm and bitterness... I LIKE IT :D



Where did you find it Marts, or did you write it yourself?
 
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Martin

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
56,857
#13
Yeah there was something in me that cried out against all these people saying it was fixed, they cheated, call 911 etc. That's where it came from..

I think if you kinda analyze it you'll find there's a lot of irony all over the place, I noticed that while I was writing, happened inadvertently but I just let it flow.

Anyway, I can't really write, it would be fun to be able to take an idea like this and really do something big with it. I'm sure a lot of people here have better writing skills and could have done it a lot better. :)
 

BigIzz

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
1,088
#15
Martin don't be foolish. The conspiracy in WC 2002 wasn't to get Italy out, it involved much more then that. You see Argentina, Italy, Portual, France...all part of the fix. How else could you explain teams like Senegal, Turkey, South Korea, the United States doing so well? There was clearly some grand conspiracy to stop all of this. Dozens of games were orchastrated, players paid off, referres threatened. FIFA just looks incompetant on the surface. Yeah they do look inept, but thats just a cover for their ace secret division that pulls off all this match fixing. Of course, no one of the dozens of people invloved has talked about it, no one else has found any proof. But that isn't really the point? How else could you explain South Korea in the semi-final? Or Brazil-Germany in the final? Please, could anyone imagine a World Cup where Brazil and Germany meet in the final? It's perposterous!!

Or perhaps it was just the Italian game that was fixed. See, the ref was from Ecuador and Ecuador, of course being a powerhouse footballing nation, had high hopes to secure the World Cup trophy in 2002. Moreno was just bitter because his homeland, Ecuador, were shcockingly upset by the lowly Azzuri, a team full of no names compared to the stars of Ecuador. Ecuador was so distraught that they aagain were upset by a Mexican team that was only ranked like 6th in the world at the time and were driven out of the tournament. So the ref being so enraged about his oen homelands loss to Italy, fixed the match. No matter that he is a professional ref. He was willing to put his credibility on the line, risk being found out and lose his job as a world class ref, go to Burger King and work fast food for the rest pf his life just to feed his family all to spite those Italians.

Anyway, I'll stop being sarcastic now. I would just like to see some proof about these conspiracies. Negative results aren't proof. I want to know who, why, how, how they magaed to keep it a secret, stuff like that. Until I see a plausible scenario, I won't buy it.
 
Aug 1, 2003
17,678
#17
I disagree with people who blame others for Italy's exit, it was Italy's own fault but I just find it a bit surprising how some are parading the innocence of Denmark-Sweden or Korea. Yes, innocent till proven guilty and yes there's the chance that they didn't fix anything but the peculiarity of it also means there's a chance that it was indeed fixed. again I repeat this in no way contributes to Italy's exit because if Italy had done better we wouldn't give a fiddler's fart about what was fixed, but regardless of Italy's condition, why are you people so convinced they're innocent?? If there wasn't anything odd about the matches nothing would've been brought up in the first place. I'm not saying they're not innocent, I'm just saying there's a CHANCE that they're not, so really, us who think the games were fixed equally makes sense with those who don't think so. (us who think it was fixed, not us who think it was fixed and blame that for italy's under achieving performance)
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
76,318
#18
First and foremost, it's Italy's fault for allowing themselves to get in a position where their destiny could have been out of their own hands. Enough said.
 

IncuboRossonero

Inferiority complex
Nov 16, 2003
7,039
#19
++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++


Euro2004


Now then, that we've proven the case beyond any doubt, it's time to unveil the mastermind of this scheme. The man who craves power and constantly wants more. The man who is responsible for your pain and suffering as a devoted football fanatic.




Typical from Anglo-Saxon influenced bullsh*t. Clean up your own dirty laundry before go sift through others. That man is responsible for one of the greatest teams in the history of soocer and that man revolutionized the role of OWNER.

Congrats for crossing the line from sports to politics...how classy and tactful.
 
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Martin

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
56,857
#20
++ [ originally posted by BigIzz ] ++
Martin don't be foolish. The conspiracy in WC 2002 wasn't to get Italy out, it involved much more then that. You see Argentina, Italy, Portual, France...all part of the fix. How else could you explain teams like Senegal, Turkey, South Korea, the United States doing so well? There was clearly some grand conspiracy to stop all of this. Dozens of games were orchastrated, players paid off, referres threatened. FIFA just looks incompetant on the surface. Yeah they do look inept, but thats just a cover for their ace secret division that pulls off all this match fixing. Of course, no one of the dozens of people invloved has talked about it, no one else has found any proof. But that isn't really the point? How else could you explain South Korea in the semi-final? Or Brazil-Germany in the final? Please, could anyone imagine a World Cup where Brazil and Germany meet in the final? It's perposterous!!

Or perhaps it was just the Italian game that was fixed. See, the ref was from Ecuador and Ecuador, of course being a powerhouse footballing nation, had high hopes to secure the World Cup trophy in 2002. Moreno was just bitter because his homeland, Ecuador, were shcockingly upset by the lowly Azzuri, a team full of no names compared to the stars of Ecuador. Ecuador was so distraught that they aagain were upset by a Mexican team that was only ranked like 6th in the world at the time and were driven out of the tournament. So the ref being so enraged about his oen homelands loss to Italy, fixed the match. No matter that he is a professional ref. He was willing to put his credibility on the line, risk being found out and lose his job as a world class ref, go to Burger King and work fast food for the rest pf his life just to feed his family all to spite those Italians.
Sorry, Matt, I liked mine better :D:angel:
 

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