Claudio Ranieri (53 Viewers)

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Unlucky at Juventus. Unlucky at Roma. Unlucky at Inter.

Still think he was the best coach we had since Capello. Yes, Conte's football is more attractive to watch. He's a lot more hands on, but I'd say before the start of this season, that Ranieri was a better option thn Conte.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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Unlucky at Juventus. Unlucky at Roma. Unlucky at Inter.

Still think he was the best coach we had since Capello. Yes, Conte's football is more attractive to watch. He's a lot more hands on, but I'd say before the start of this season, that Ranieri was a better option thn Conte.
Not sure if serious...

Raniere is Del Neri-esque in terms of quality.
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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Unlucky at Juventus. Unlucky at Roma. Unlucky at Inter.

Still think he was the best coach we had since Capello. Yes, Conte's football is more attractive to watch. He's a lot more hands on, but I'd say before the start of this season, that Ranieri was a better option thn Conte.
absolutely, in my eyes Ranieri is a hero for what he did for Juve...then and now ;)
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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With that lame ass squad and incompetent DS he took us to top 3 and CL football for 2 years straight and put us in a position to mount a serious Scudetto challenge.

That is a lot more than decent.
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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With that lame ass squad and incompetent DS he took us to top 3 and CL football for 2 years straight and put us in a position to mount a serious Scudetto challenge.

That is a lot more than decent.
Lame ass squad with Trezeguet, Del Piero, Nedved, Camo and Buffon? Don't think so.

He did decent, that is all. He should never have been hired.
 

Linebreak

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Sep 18, 2009
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With that lame ass squad and incompetent DS he took us to top 3 and CL football for 2 years straight and put us in a position to mount a serious Scudetto challenge.

That is a lot more than decent.
That's not entirely true.

It was his work that destroyed the old Juventus mentality which led to two straight 7th placed finishes. By the time Ferrara took over, the writing was already on the wall, the Juve winning mentality was shattered.

Just look at his record at any club. They do well initially for a while, then they collapse like a stack of cards. Inter still has the longest winning streak this season, 7 wins, and it was under Ruineri, but then look at the games that followed, complete disaster!

There's something about his way of coaching and personality that transforms those around him into incompetent losers.
 

Rollie

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Apr 15, 2008
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Nice guy, absolutely. A good professional, certainly. Inter are definitely retarded for firing him, although I am enjoying that chaos.

Tactically inflexible while he was here (our "chameleon" 4-4-2). Loved to bottle it with the lead. Stubborn squad selection, poor substitutions, lots of silly quotes - at least that's how I remember it.

We were never going to win anything with Ranieri (nor has anybody else, really) - he had lost the dressing room by the time he was fired. Conte is already miles ahead of him, IMO.
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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Lame ass squad with Trezeguet, Del Piero, Nedved, Camo and Buffon? Don't think so.

He did decent, that is all. He should never have been hired.
the champions that they are, they carried the club to the top on its return...but what about the other 16-19 members of the squad?

you think guys like Grygera, Molinaro and Marchionni among so many more made for a competitive team?

That's not entirely true.

It was his work that destroyed the old Juventus mentality which led to two straight 7th placed finishes. By the time Ferrara took over, the writing was already on the wall, the Juve winning mentality was shattered.

Just look at his record at any club. They do well initially for a while, then they collapse like a stack of cards. Inter still has the longest winning streak this season, 7 wins, and it was under Ruineri, but then look at the games that followed, complete disaster!

There's something about his way of coaching and personality that transforms those around him into incompetent losers.
finishing second behind a vastly superior Inter squad destroyed the old Juventus mentality? what else are you going to put on Ranieri's head?

by the time Ferrara took over they had the perfect opportunity to build a team for the future, but Secco messed it up big time.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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That's not entirely true.

It was his work that destroyed the old Juventus mentality which led to two straight 7th placed finishes. By the time Ferrara took over, the writing was already on the wall, the Juve winning mentality was shattered.

Just look at his record at any club. They do well initially for a while, then they collapse like a stack of cards. Inter still has the longest winning streak this season, 7 wins, and it was under Ruineri, but then look at the games that followed, complete disaster!

There's something about his way of coaching and personality that transforms those around him into incompetent losers.
This.

He has a kind of aura which makes player lose respect toward him. He is a limited tactically but his worst negative is in the man management department...which takes me to my next point..

We were never going to win anything with Ranieri (nor has anybody else, really) - he had lost the dressing room by the time he was fired. Conte is already miles ahead of him, IMO.
Thats his problem. When things are going ok, he is fine... but when injuries start to happen, unexpected loses or unwanted draws.... thats when ranieri loses it. He is incapable of fueling his players to recover the bad streaks....the players turn uninspired and on top of it all his tactics are questionable. He is stubborn and doesnt like to go out of his "confort zone" tactically speaking.

Conte is not as experienced as him.... but is more willing to experiement and what he lacks in experience he compensates with top notch man management. Of course, he has his flaws.... but he is the kind of coach who is respected by players and make them do their best to impress him. Is the kind of boss you dont want to mess with when angry.
And a coach should be like this.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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There's a lot said about Ranieri as a coach. But to be honest, there are very few world class coaches out there. Sure, he isn't one of them, but he has his niche as a coach, and that is adapting very quickly to teams in transition. Not many coaches have that ability. So maybe he's not a guy who'd win you trophies consistently, but he's definitely a coach who will achieve reasonable targets with teams that play within their means. Look at what he did with Parma, his second season with Juve, with Roma, and even Inter till not so long ago. No point judging him by his stint at Inter coz the damage was done at the start of the season. There's only so long they would've gone on without eventually being exposed. While I agree he's more philosophical than motivational, I think he's one of the best coaches to have around for teams with a "project". Give him 5 years with a team that's building for the future and he'll bring stability. Hand him over a team in distress and he'll see them through more often than not. But don't give him a team already built to win trophies, because he'll buckle when things go south. That is and has been his biggest weakness. He is in my book, one of the best coaches not to have won anything.
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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This.

He has a kind of aura which makes player lose respect toward him. He is a limited tactically but his worst negative is in the man management department...which takes me to my next point..
who exactly did he mismanage? dude even made Amauri look world class.


Thats his problem. When things are going ok, he is fine... but when injuries start to happen, unexpected loses or unwanted draws.... thats when ranieri loses it. He is incapable of fueling his players to recover the bad streaks....the players turn uninspired and on top of it all his tactics are questionable. He is stubborn and doesnt like to go out of his "confort zone" tactically speaking.

Conte is not as experienced as him.... but is more willing to experiement and what he lacks in experience he compensates with top notch man management. Of course, he has his flaws.... but he is the kind of coach who is respected by players and make them do their best to impress him. Is the kind of boss you dont want to mess with when angry.
And a coach should be like this.
as opposed to other managers who do so amazingly well in injury crises?!

nobody is saying he is a world beater, but he deserves nothing less than praise for the amazing work he did at Juve.
 

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