Claudio Ranieri (31 Viewers)

icemaη

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This isn't someting about tactics or formations.This is about moral.Camoranesi can't walk on the pitch,Chiellini is making silly mistakes,Buffon is passing ball to outside of the pitch.some strange shit is happening and Ranieri must go.

Believe me, we won't be worse than this with 'no-carreer managers' like Conte and Ferrara.
 

fabriano

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Jul 14, 2007
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Rumour has it that Ciro Ferrara is next in line if Ranieri does badly this year. I'm pretty sure Ranieri will be here until January anyway if not the end of the season.

Lets give him our support until the end.

Who ever wrote Donadoni in this thread should be shot.

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Amaurisimo

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Ranieri losing numbers game at Juventus Guardian UK 6.10.2008


The Old Lady's first home defeat to Palermo for 46 years has increased the pressure on their much-maligned coach



Claudio Ranieri might have tinkered for the final time at Juventus. Photograph: Emilio Andreoli/Getty Images

The average cow passes enough wind in a week to inflate a hot air balloon, 88% of clowns never fall in love and 36% of strippers had a convent education. We all know by now that 88.2% of statistics are made up on the spot but there's nothing false or frivolous about the numbers that will be troubling the Juventus manager Claudio Ranieri this morning. Zero wins from his team's last four games. Five goals scored in the opening six league games, where last year there were 15. The Old Lady's first home defeat to Palermo since February 18 1962.

More troubling still, over 70% of Tuttosport readers want to see him sacked. Granted, the Turin-based daily may not be the most impartial – they have been campaigning for the manager to be fired for some time, and today's front-page headline is a simple but effective "Ranieri, out" – but the vote is nevertheless indicative of significant discontent. Even before yesterday's 2-1 reverse, the majority of Juventini wanted shot of the Tinkerman.

Their grievances extend beyond simple results, though it has been noted that Juventus's current haul of nine points is their lowest after six games since the league moved to three points for a win in 1994-95. Ranieri has been criticised for his tactics, team selection and even his general demeanour. His ability to smile and joke with television presenters after a disappointing result has led to accusations that he doesn't care enough about losing to ever win big trophies. A training-ground row with Alessandro Del Piero last week added fuel to reports that Ranieri has lost control of the dressing room.

Ranieri was careful to suppress said smile after yesterday's defeat, but he remained philosophical. "Sometimes you're the anvil and sometimes the hammer," he mused. "Right now we are the anvil."

Such a fatalistic approach might be forgiven in light of injuries to Nicola Legrottaglie, Giorgio Chiellini, Jorge Andrade, Cristiano Zanetti, Jonathan Zebina, David Trezeguet and Vincenzo Iaquinta. Of the six changes Ranieri made to the team that drew with BATE Borisov in the Champions League in the week, three were forced by injury. Two more – the introductions of Christian Poulsen and Claudio Marchisio – were at least partly motivated by the need to give Mauro Camoranesi and Pavel Nedved's ageing legs a rest. Only the return of Gianluigi Buffon in place of Alex Manninger in goal was entirely a matter of preference.

A thigh injury to Olof Mellberg little more than half an hour in only exacerbated the situation, as did Momo Sissoko's sending off five minutes before half-time, but Juventus were far from fluid even before then. Without Camoranesi and Nedved to link midfield and attack, Juventus were disjointed. They managed just four shots on target all game, and only one from open play. Only the 22-year-old Marchisio, who emerged from the youth team in 2006 before spending last season on loan at Empoli, consistently troubled the Palermo defence with his accurate passing.

The performance was enough for the Tuttosport editor Paolo di Paola to declare the team "in crisis" on the pitch – as well as everywhere else – but, beyond getting rid of Ranieri, nobody seems to be offering any practical solutions. Ranieri started Sebastian Giovinco, another youth-team graduate, behind Del Piero and Amauri in a 4-3-1-2 formation yesterday after fans demanded he do so. In the end Giovinco, so impressive in midfield against Catania and Borisov, was simply bullied and subdued by Palermo's Fabio Liverani.

The sad truth is that a section of fans seem to have been waiting for Ranieri to fail at Juventus from the word go. Even last season, as Juventus comfortably met the club president Giovanni Cobolli Gigli's demand to finish in the Champions League places, many fans were grumbling about the team's failure to challenge for the title, despite the fact the club had only just returned to the top flight from Serie B, having lost key players along the way. There is a perception that Ranieri has never won the biggest trophies, and therefore never will. He is not devious enough. Not hungry enough. Too nice.

At root, though, Juventus are victims of their own past success. The club expects to compete for the biggest trophies but, much like Milan, has not adequately replaced its ageing or departed stars. Last season's run to third place was achieved in great part on the back of remarkable seasons from Del Piero and Trezeguet, who scored 21 and 20 goals to finish first and second in Serie A's scoring charts respectively. But the former is 33 and the latter 30 and out until December. Nedved remains pivotal at 36.

Amauri was a shrewd signing and has done his best to pick up the slack up front, scoring three goals thus far, but he cannot do it alone. Other signings have failed to live up to billing. Sergio Almirón cost €9m and is on loan at Fiorentina. Tiago Mendes cost €13m and simply won't leave. Sissoko has improved but even now is not always convincing. Youth-team players such as Giovinco and Marchisio have impressed and among fans there is an appetite to see them come good, but none of the patience required for the inevitable dips in form that young players have.

Ranieri is not blameless for this failure to update the squad – he was given more say in the club's transfer campaign this summer – but neither should he be made to carry the can. Liverpool's Xabi Alonso was, alongside Amauri, his No1 target this summer, and there is little doubt that he would have offered the team a creativity and distribution from midfield that Christian Poulsen, the man they signed instead, simply does not possess.

For now Cobolli Gigli has been supportive of Ranieri, stating after yesterday's game that he would stick behind his manager, and that "any other reaction would be hysterical, destabilising in fact". But the international week offers plenty of time for reflection. And, as we know in football, a vote of confidence from the president is often anything but.

Round six talking points

• After the excitement of last week's derby win, Milan came crashing down to earth with a goalless draw at Cagliari, who have scored only once all season and previously hadn't picked up a single point. The Italian press explained the setback by suggesting Milan have an allergy to the colours red and blue – also worn by Bologna and Genoa, the two teams who have beaten them in the league. Owner Silvio Berlusconi had another theory. "This time I didn't choose the formation, like I usually do."
• Ranieri isn't the only leading manager coming under pressure lately – three years of sterling work by Luciano Spalletti at Roma are at risk of being undone by a miserable start that continued with a 1-0 defeat at Siena yesterday. They lie 14th and have yet to take a point away from home. Siena, for their part, are yet to concede a goal at home.
• Lazio, Inter and Udinese sit together atop Serie A with 13 points from six games. Pasquale Marino thinks his Udinese team are not getting "enough respect" for their achievements, but he would do well to remember his team were well on course for a Champions League berth last season before falling away to finish seventh.

Serie A results: Atalanta 4-2 Sampdoria, Cagliari 0-0 Milan, Chievo 0-2 Fiorentina, Genoa 3-2 Napoli, Inter 2-1 Bologna, Juventus 1-2 Palermo, Lazio 1-1 Lecce, Reggina 1-1 Catania, Siena 1-0 Roma, Udinese 2-0 Torino
 

alex'10

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Sep 17, 2008
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Ranieri is a fucking arsehole. He is not needed at the club. Thier is not a single fan who wants him to stay on as coach - fact. He is clearly an imbecile, does he not realise he is not wanted at the club? He is simply out of his depth, and is becoming an embrassment. There is no cynicism on the pitch, the team cannot be looked at.
 

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