Claudio Ranieri (32 Viewers)

[will luvs juve]

Ranieri is a good manager but i dont think he is consistent enough. He has hadmoments like the Inter game when he can make really good decisions and they will work but sometimes he makes a complete fool of himself. I think that the Juventus board should give him the rest of the season and judge then weather he should go or not. If he shows consistency then i would want him to stay. If we want to do well in the champions league next year if we get there (which we should do) then we will need to perform on big games.

 

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[.zero]

Brilliance??? So the formation he threw out was brilliant??? What did he do to make us win??? Im all for letting the players know when it is their fault and I also like to give them credit. Yeah secco is so good because he brought Sali here and he started and we won. Ranieri is far from brilliant.

sorry dude, but you're giving secco too much credit also

 

[Bozi]

I said it at the start of the year and I still strongly believe in it now . Ranieri is a coach that will get the job done for the season but he is by no means fit to be Juve's coach in the future . I think he's the right man for the job when it comes to finishing in the top 4 but he is simply not a championship coach .

Some mistakes were :

1- Playing Nocerino at the right ( It was painfully obvious that Nocerino would not fit that position )

2 - Playing Palla as a winger ( He's a striker ffs ) It took him more than half the season to realize that .

3 - Playing the same formation at times which lacked creativity and were flat out boring and predictable .

4 - Playing Grygera as a CB .

He had a few mistakes this season which could have easilly been avoided . I think that's why most of the people in this forum threw the blame on him . At times they were right and at other times they were simply uncalled for . People would blame Ranieri just for the sake of blaming someone .

Overall , I have to say I am very appreciative of how Ranieri has handled the situation he was in , he did the best he can do and even though there have been errors along the way , he has made up for them with moments of brilliance .

well surmised my friend. i have been attempting to get folk off of ranieri's back for weeks now and now i am having to get them off his cock
he is doing exactly what i hoped he would do much i am sure everyone here would appreciate, he is not teh man to lead us forward and win trophies. he is a squad builder, a man who gets the best out of some players and then gets them set-up for a real winner to come in and take the foundations layed down and mould them into a succesful team. lippi,mourinho,etc would be very appreciative of the ground-work done by caludio but i fear it will all be in vain if he is left at teh helm

 

[Tifoso]

The main thing that makes me think his days are numbered, is that Lippi hasn't ended up anywhere yet.

 

[vimo]

Brilliance??? So the formation he threw out was brilliant??? What did he do to make us win??? Im all for letting the players know when it is their fault and I also like to give them credit. Yeah secco is so good because he brought Sali here and he started and we won. Ranieri is far from brilliant.

nobody said ranieri was brilliant or did i miss something? everyone knows he's far from brilliant. What that newspaper said about being 'brilliant' was our victory over inter. well that was kind of 'brilliant' to me too. Not CR, but juventus as a whole.
Also Secco is far from good but goddamned... he brought sissoko also; now tell me that was a bad deal too and you'd rather have nocerino continuing in that position. Sali definately is not world-class. far from it, but everyone who has seen him in bayern knows that he had some VERY good performances, and he came for free ffs. So YES! Sali was a good deal! Plus, he's a worker, and although he lost a lot of balls he won a lot too, so as a sub for a transition year; YES! Sali was a good deal!
They're all far from brilliant but give some credit where credit is due.

 

[rounder]

Brilliance??? So the formation he threw out was brilliant??? What did he do to make us win??? Im all for letting the players know when it is their fault and I also like to give them credit. Yeah secco is so good because he brought Sali here and he started and we won. Ranieri is far from brilliant.

He isn't brilliant . I said he has had his moments of brilliance .

I'm not discrediting the players in anyway but even the most biased Ranieri hater will admit to him out coaching Spalleti and Mancini tactically . He played with the right formations and obviously read the game well thus he deserves some credit for that at the least .

 

[Amaurisimo]

CR done very well, and we should be very happy with team and spirit so far.
Would he do better than Mancini if he had inter?

If not for ref. mistakes and few little hick ups we would, with very limited squad be even in front.
I really wonder why CR is not winning coach, maybe cos he never had as good Juve or Valencia, or Chelsea as some others did.

Please support him and all our team 8 more games, and lets celebrate CL classification at the end of season..Then lets hope to buy 2-3 WC players and than lets aim for 1st place.

Forza Ranieri

 

[Mike-e-y]

Ranieri should be allowed to see out the rest of the season but at the end of the season he should leave. He can only take us so far, a brilliant guy to lay the foundations but someone else needs to build on the work Ranieri has done so far. Thanks but no thanks

 

[.zero]

Ranieri should be allowed to see out the rest of the season but at the end of the season he should leave. He can only take us so far, a brilliant guy to lay the foundations but someone else needs to build on the work Ranieri has done so far. Thanks but no thanks

Exactly.

Even though I was calling for his head earlier back in January, I know that nothing good would come of canning him before season's end.

With that being said I think our rebuilding process will make leaps and bounds if we get a CL bid. The sooner that happens the sooner we can expect more blue chip players to show interest in our club and big time coaches to do the same.

So basically as we used DD, the same is going for C-Ra. We are using them to get to where we need to go and then replace them with their eventual successors.

 

[Max]

CR done very well, and we should be very happy with team and spirit so far.
Would he do better than Mancini if he had inter?

If not for ref. mistakes and few little hick ups we would, with very limited squad be even in front.
I really wonder why CR is not winning coach, maybe cos he never had as good Juve or Valencia, or Chelsea as some others did.

Please support him and all our team 8 more games, and lets celebrate CL classification at the end of season..Then lets hope to buy 2-3 WC players and than lets aim for 1st place.

Forza Ranieri

If not for an officiating error, Juventus probably wouldn't have beaten Inter on Saturday either, regardless if they outplayed them.

As for team spirit, I think it has much to do with the veteran leaders in the squad (Buffon, Del Piero, Nedved), and not so much of Ranieri's words during training or in the locker room. I don't mean to undermine the importance of a coach, but I think on Saturday during half-time, the core group of players fired up the squad. I don't think Ranieri knows what the Juventus tradition is as well as some of the players in the squad, nor does he know what being humiliated in Serie B and having the opportunity to redeem yourself feels like. I think that's where the players step in and make Ranieri's job a little bit easier.

It all comes down to self-motivation...that's why this team is where they are in the table.

 

[Tifoso]

If not for an officiating error, Juventus probably wouldn't have beaten Inter on Saturday either, regardless if they outplayed them.

Don't know about that, TBH. We had many more opportunities than Inter. I'm sure another one would have gone in.

It all comes down to self-motivation...that's why this team is where they are in the table.

Without question.

 

[v1rtu4l]

As for team spirit, I think it has much to do with the veteran leaders in the squad (Buffon, Del Piero, Nedved), and not so much of Ranieri's words during training or in the locker room. I don't mean to undermine the importance of a coach, but I think on Saturday during half-time, the core group of players fired up the squad. I don't think Ranieri knows what the Juventus tradition is as well as some of the players in the squad, nor does he know what being humiliated in Serie B and having the opportunity to redeem yourself feels like. I think that's where the players step in and make Ranieri's job a little bit easier.

It all comes down to self-motivation...that's why this team is where they are in the table.

As you do NOT know what C.Ranieri said and did in the locker room, you can't just say "oh, i don't think that ranieri said anything of worth, it's all down to the players".

If Ranieri was as bad as you all want him to be, than he would not be backed by the players.

Do you really think that the players would stand behind Ranieri, if he had nothing to do with the unexpected success of juve we are wittnessing 'til now ?

i don't think now

 

[rounder]

As you do NOT know what C.Ranieri said and did in the locker room, you can't just say "oh, i don't think that ranieri said anything of worth, it's all down to the players".

If Ranieri was as bad as you all want him to be, than he would not be backed by the players.

Do you really think that the players would stand behind Ranieri, if he had nothing to do with the unexpected success of juve we are wittnessing 'til now ?

i don't think now

Then when do you think ?

 

[Max]

As you do NOT know what C.Ranieri said and did in the locker room, you can't just say "oh, i don't think that ranieri said anything of worth, it's all down to the players".

If Ranieri was as bad as you all want him to be, than he would not be backed by the players.

Do you really think that the players would stand behind Ranieri, if he had nothing to do with the unexpected success of juve we are wittnessing 'til now ?

i don't think now

Why would the players publicly denounce the coach? Why would they want to stir up more unnecessary and unneeded controversy? The players stand behind Ranieri because they're classy. This isn't Palermo or Catania, son.

And if you read my post, I said I'm not undermining the role of a coach in terms of success, but really a big part of the success we're seeing is due to the players' motivation after emerging from a year in Serie B.

 

[v1rtu4l]

Then when do you think ?

should've been "i don't think so", sry

 

[Amaurisimo]

Some of you just don't want to give a chance and your trust to CR, and i dont blame you..

He is not a winner. He talks to much, even if interviews are sometimes translated incorrectly or cut short, he never won anything, he has stupid tactics, he uses wrong substitutions, he is not for Juve.

"We are winners not losers!!!!! Get us Moggi , bring Lippi back, get rid off everyone, kill Secco"- some of you like to shout it loud.

But than again CR never had a team like R. Benitez, or Capello, or Jose.


R. Benitez has been winner 4 times in EPL so far, but this year it will be in between Ramos and Erickson.
Malo morgen.. little tomorrow as some older from ex Yu would say..


CR get todays Juve, above average team, and give's you CL spot, and you still keep bashing him.

But hey this CL place is not because of him but "players only".
"Lets put DP in charge and he will do better than CR" some of you even said..


Some of you still praise Lippi , even me, and that is positive thing, as we should never forget a history, especially great one, but than again he was first who refused us, you forgot that didn't you. But than again it was cos of his son issues, ah yes, I forgot..

But you did not forget Zlatan, or Cannavaro, Viera etc..

You can not forget that, even when Moggi was main reason why we sold them.
But we "love" our Moggi so lets not talk about that...

You want Jose, even we dont even have more that 11 solid players in squad.
"If we had Jose, we would win scudetto this year" etc...

To me all this reminds me on my 2 kids when i give them sweets - they get excited and forget about everything even if they were crying moment ago..

You love to compare Capello and CR and winning team few years back.

But your main problem is that CR is not consistent as we win against good teams but loose or draw against small teams. It's all to do with players motivation, and wrong tactic????
Right!?

How come DP plays so good against big teams, but no one put blame on him when he plays bad, and funny enough it is always against smaller teams? Or maybe he is just tired as we dont have anyone to replace him with?

You blame CR for not playing 433 even when opposition team will play formation which will in that case not be good at all....But hey, we play at home so lets do 433!!!

No one ever say, that because we have weak bench DP, Nedved, Camoranesi, Trez, cant do always great, and that is one of reasons for poor result!?
Most of goals we conceded are from individual mistakes and not because of "stupid and flat formation/tactic or substitutions"


Or you would rather always have Trez in first 11 and IQ sometimes even second one plays for NT and Pala dont have to play, as he is striker???? Or should he play for NT only and do well always?

Can CR rest sometimes certain players, so we can rotate players like everyone does and give others a chance, or do you think we have what it takes, except coach thing?

But when CR uses Paladino, Brazzo , Camo etc. to patch the holes in different position than "why"????, "he is fool, get him out of here"

Many players were written off before season, or before even signed up, now most of them upped their game but they doing better cos of Serie B to A promotion? Don't think so.


Ah yes, almost forgot, CR ruined Tiago and Almiron!!!

The same with Sheva at Chelsea, he got ruined big time. But no one says anything about Jose, OR Chelsea supporters understand better than us, that certain players cant do well in every league, and also as attack is based around Drogba, that playing system should be changed, OR is it just because Sheva speaks same language as Abramovic he should play and do well always??

CR even did not want Tiago or Almiron in Juve. Even D. Deschamps knew about them and did not want them.

We should all know who signed IQ and few others. Answer starts with letter M.

CR signed Sissoko only so far, but you don't know that either!? Oh yeah he was Shitsoko few months back, but somehow he is our Black Ninja and 3 times voted as best Juve player so far..


Only good thing Ranieri done so far is that we still dont have revolution in dressing room like Inter.
Or not???

Ref. Fxxx us but we forget about that..
Our players get injured, suspended, we forget about it..
Chiellini get rediscovered as CB , we forget ...
Legro...etc...

cant be bothered writing anymore, getting blisters soon.



Everything else is pure luck.

Milan, Fiorentina all underperforming, so we get lucky..
Inter has Mancini but best squad, still we are lucky.






I think we should be lucky that we have Ranieri in charge..

That is what i think...

 

[Nicholas]

Hmm is quite a hard argument for or against Ranieri imo........If we get champions league spot then the season is more than a success because the foundations at the start of the season were UEFA cup spot......We started off well so the media starts to bull up juve *juve will challenge for title etc* So certain people on this forum start to belive the hype....Then what most people expected the form dropped everyone who is not blinkered knew with this juventus side that the form they were in could not sustain throughout the season.....So the fans who believed the hype started calling Ranieri etc yes i understand his substitutions tactics etc were to blame but cmon this team is not Real Madrid,Barcelona.When we got demoted the financial loss on this club was astronimical,So when we got promoted what could we use to attract big players no champions league? *oh lets use the nature of juventus name* well tbh the name of juventus was disgraced throughout football throughout football fans across the globe....But oh wait the great moggi was the instrument in all that.Yes he was great i liked him but what he did to juventus for me was unforgivable,I saw no logic behind that because we had very good players we dident need to cheat to win so why the fuck he made this shit towards our club! i will never understand.So now we might get into the champions league you all want to sack Ranieri,Laughable.Secco and our board need to be sacked yes.But like moggi said it is the board not ranieri doing a bad job.If you would of asked Juventus fans where we would of been at this stage at the start of the season nobody would of said 3rd but we are because of the bond and unity between the Players and Ranieri...So you guys want Mourinho well you moan about Ranieri playing boring football Mourinho is the worst for that so for me there is no logic in him.....Lippi i dont think he wants another stint at Juventus he is always remembered here as a great so if he came back and wasent a success then thats what he would be remebered by from some fans a *failure* another name Benitez very good manager but once again doesent play attrative football one name i havent seen on this forum for a new manager is Frank Rijkaard Barcelona arguably play the best football in the world along side Arsenal(Fred) imo he is very attack minded 3 forwards etc but everyone seems to want the special one....

1.We havent got the money to fund Mourinhos silly spending habits.

2.He is not attack minded.

3.He was a success because of money nothing else.

Ok thats my rant over.

 

[Agon]

excellent post Lampard
Some members here think:
Win = Luck, Opponent played bad
Draw = Ranieri's fault
Loose = Ranieri's fault, fuck him, get out of here now

 

[Salvo]

as ive said before ranieri has proved imself against the bigger teams, well kind of proved himself. but against the little teams he hasnt. and it is said against the small teams the championship is won. for me i am waiting for next season; where he will most likely be our coach, to prove himself in CL and in serie with hopefully a much strengthened side that can compete with the likes of inter and roma for serie a and hopfully go far in the CL

 

[Max]

But hey this CL place is not because of him but "players only".
"Lets put DP in charge and he will do better than CR" some of you even said...

Why do I bother really? :stress: