Claudio Ranieri (44 Viewers)

Tifoso

Sempre e solo Juve
Aug 12, 2005
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You're kidding me right?

Looking at Claudio's first year coaching this squad COMING from Serie B unbeaten by the big sides and you're missing Capello?

I wonder how Crapello would have managed this squad looking at his prev squads he couldn't put his mark in CL simply because he plays pathetic football.


I'm not a fan of Ranieri, never was, but he's 10x the coach Fabio Capello is. He's got the balls to coach such a team returning back from Serie B while Capello would only accept 22 world class players.

I am no huge Ranieri fan, but I have to agree.

Can someone answer me the highest a team newly promoted to A has finished in their first year?
 

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Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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but guys we are not a newly promoted team, we are if you think of it literally but we have players that surpass any newly promoted team. we are not a team like livorno or chievo. we are juventus.
 

tibike

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Dec 11, 2007
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You're kidding me right?

Looking at Claudio's first year coaching this squad COMING from Serie B unbeaten by the big sides and you're missing Capello?

I wonder how Crapello would have managed this squad looking at his prev squads he couldn't put his mark in CL simply because he plays pathetic football.


I'm not a fan of Ranieri, never was, but he's 10x the coach Fabio Capello is. He's got the balls to coach such a team returning back from Serie B while Capello would only accept 22 world class players.
Come on, Capello is a great coach. I mean, yeah, his football sucks and I most definitely don't like him, but he has results and you have to give credit to the guy. Plus I'm pretty sure that he would choose better transfer targets than RUINeri did. Yeah, we probably wouldn't be unbeaten by the big sides, but I'm pretty positive we would have more points, because we would beat the likes of Empoli. And guess what, it's the points that matter in Serie A, not results against big sides.

but guys we are not a newly promoted team, we are if you think of it literally but we have players that surpass any newly promoted team. we are not a team like livorno or chievo. we are juventus.

Exactly. Even with this squad, a UEFA cup spot is the least we can go for. Not many "newly promoted" clubs can do that.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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guys chill out there is more than 1 post on here that merits a warning but i will put it down to emotions running high,we all know ranieri is not teh long-term solution but he is here till the end of the season and until we fire his ass i do not want to see this sort of thing!

@dru-quality mate
i gotcha man :tup:

i'll tone it down on ranieri for a minute... at least until we get lit up by inter this weekend ;)
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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Del Piero: The coach is doing a fantastic job. The results speak for themselves. He must stay calm, there is full support for him.
I believe that the current Bianconeri leadership are not in harmony with Ranieri, who is doing an excellent job, Moggi explained.
So both Del Piero and Moggi are praising Ranieri, saying that he's doing an excellent job.
Now i'm confused because the general opinion of this forum is that he sucks.
Who's right here ?

You're kidding me right?
Looking at Claudio's first year coaching this squad COMING from Serie B unbeaten by the big sides and you're missing Capello?
I don't really agree that Ranieri is 10 times the coach Capello is but i agree that considering everything that happened to us in last 2 years, Ranieri did a solid job.
He made few mistakes here and there (like every human does) but my rating for his job is positive !
Look at Inter and Mancini. They are comfortably winning and still they are a circus. Giving resignations and then taking them back, fighting between eachother, insulting eachother, refusing to play.
Look at Milan and Ancelotti. They won the bloody CL and still Ancelotti is clueless and can't get results with a squad by far superior to ours. Tactically Milan were being outplayed in 4 matches out of 5.
And then look at us. Our squad is by far inferior to Milan's and we have 9 points advantage over them, we aren't better than Viola and we have 5 points more than they do. Roma and Inter have much higher quality and yet they couldn't beat us.
And what's most important, look at our team atmosphere, look at they way we're celebrating the goals. That my friends, is the job of the coach. To motivate and unite the players and no-one seems more motivated and more united than us this season in Italy.
 

rvi

l'amour toujours
Apr 5, 2007
2,033
Ranieri awaits San Siro battle
Friday 21 March, 2008

Claudio Ranieri is expecting an exciting and open game when he leads his Juventus side out to face Inter at San Siro tomorrow.

There’s no love lost between the Old Lady and Inter and the Derby d’Italia is one of the season’s most heated clashes.

Ranieri’s side were held by Empoli in a disappointing 0-0 on Wednesday, but they arrive with confidence having seen the Nerazzurri’s recent struggles, even if the Juve tactician remains cautious.

“I don’t listen when people say that they are off form,” he said. “Their form will come just from playing against Juve.

“We want to shock them like we did against Roma, but we want to do it in a more positive way.”


Striking star David Trezeguet stated yesterday that he wants to beat Inter so that Roma steal the Scudetto from the reigning champions.

“Trezeguet would prefer Roma to win the Scudetto? I just want us to get a good result – I don’t care about the rest,” Ranieri stressed.

“We know that we are taking on the top of the class, but we are convinced that we can do well. It will be an open game and the result will be uncertain until the end.

“Are we more calm? It’s Inter title to lose, but this game means everything to us and is worth 1000 per cent.”


Trez also criticised Juve’s recent performances and insisted that the Turin outfit have a lot more to give.

“I agree that we need to improve on one hand, but disagree on the other,” Ranieri explained.

“It’s true that our football isn’t flowing, but we are defending very well. The truth is always in the middle.”


The former Parma Coach was reluctant to divulge any information on his team selection as he concluded the interview.

“I will weigh up my decisions and decide everything tomorrow morning,” he revealed.

“The squad is looking good physically. You could see we were the side in shape on Wednesday evening by the fact that several Empoli players were suffering from cramp.”


Juventus (probable): Buffon; Zebina, Legrottaglie, Chiellini, Grygera; Camoranesi, Sissoko, Nocerino, Nedved; Trezeguet, Del Piero


from : Channel4.com
 

Lucky Luke

Senior Member
Jul 23, 2007
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Did you really believe in squad depth as a definition?
It comes from the fact that certain players have been(or are) performing well on certain positions. Here is the part we get misunderstood...
You are saying we might cost third, but our players lack the depth of Roma (which have a lesser paid squad) or Inter and Milan. I cannot concur. Yes they perform better now - but reasons for that could be beyond our capabilities to understand (incl. personal life). Our coach is to motivate, rotate, experiment and most importantly perfect the players as overall and in specified (envisioned by him positions!!!).
Now here is the cheesy part: Ranieri does not have the confidence to explore, to change to rotate and experiment. Yes he have been brave to play a 3 forward tactical aproach but that is his only tactical experiment. Grygera was a later example.
So we have an icon like Buffon and DP and he gets 10 mil salary? Because he is 15 years with the club? No! He gets the salary because (both) I believe could get back every penny of it. DP might have bad games, but his actions are class. He does not have the support and he does the job. Actually I would rate him higher than Ibrahimovic this season even if you laugh at that. Buffon I would just skip.
Then it comes to replacements and market presence. Surely you could throw Secco in the pack of must-be-kicked-out employees. But he spend some money that is undeniable. So why this players and why two of the most expensive DM in the last 3 transfer markets are 'good enough' for Empoli? How is it this guys cannot be squeezed to 110 for just a 'couple' of games - we are playing really.
You are laughing at Greece - but actually this is the example you should be looking for. What about the 7 star Brazil Squad - they are LOOSERS? And they are close to what some of you may call them the FIFA dreamteam - but who was speaking about that ? lol
I think you underestimate the presence of the coach a lot. If you calculate the brute force of talents discovered by a single good coach - you would find that this squad-depth is actually a very fictional figure.
So sorry to sound unimpressed, and please do not try to convince me or god-forbid explain to me what that is. I got it, thanks. But think about the basic of football and how actually players stepped into the new era of game - change tactics not change players. That is what I am saying. But hey - if you want to be an irrational fella call for Ibrahimovic - he is great. Sure remember when he was playing for us? G - R - E - A - T... ROFL
Or take Maicon - he could be the next huge flop. It is only when players vision and coach tactics combine that we see the right result - which in you TV screen is a great player - but in the real world it is much more of a complicated equation.
:scarf: exactly!:bow:
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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So both Del Piero and Moggi are praising Ranieri, saying that he's doing an excellent job.
Now i'm confused because the general opinion of this forum is that he sucks.
Who's right here ?
Well ADP is a class player and class individual. He knows not to sling arrows at his "boss". Plus it would not look good on him to trash his coach being the club icon.

Moggi is in no place to comment either way so his word is just as good as mine or yours.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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Well if that’s your logic then:

- It's always better to have dumb haircut like spock than to have no hair at all.

- It's always better to have any woman you can get than to have no woman in your life at all

- It's always better to be a janitor than to have no job at all

This guy has some high aspirations for himself and his club. I feel bad for his children, they are all probably being raised to aim for second best in life. There is no sense of urgency or passion to compete and win. I understand if players don’t care about winning because the money is more important to them but a coach who doesn't burn about not winning is almost equivalent to a coach that doesn't care.
:rulz:

the best post I've read in a long while !!

+rep

F**** Ranieri, last post I said I sympathize with him. But now, f**** he just sucks. Now it is antipathy!
Bravo, that's the spirit! :tup:
couldnt agree more....

You're kidding me right?

Looking at Claudio's first year coaching this squad COMING from Serie B unbeaten by the big sides and you're missing Capello?

I wonder how Crapello would have managed this squad looking at his prev squads he couldn't put his mark in CL simply because he plays pathetic football.


I'm not a fan of Ranieri, never was, but he's 10x the coach Fabio Capello is. He's got the balls to coach such a team returning back from Serie B while Capello would only accept 22 world class players.
we dont disagree often, Rab, but this RUINeri is simply not a winner

the man is satisfied with sloppy seconds, or worse, and that just doesnt fit into the Juventus mentality

and while were on the subject, Gigli, SUCKO, and BLANK dont fit here, either

Capello is a proven winner, albeit that he alienates many people in the process, but he is always a guarantee to finish near the top (CL excluded)
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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Alen said:
So both Del Piero and Moggi are praising Ranieri, saying that he's doing an excellent job.
Now i'm confused because the general opinion of this forum is that he sucks.
Who's right here ?
DP is not one to openly criticize any coach, I mean he said nothing negative about Capello until after he left

As captain of the team, he must maintain harmony within the team (at least to the press)

Moggi is doing nothing more than stirring the shit...giving all credit to the coach, and none to the management
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Come on, Capello is a great coach. I mean, yeah, his football sucks and I most definitely don't like him, but he has results and you have to give credit to the guy. Plus I'm pretty sure that he would choose better transfer targets than RUINeri did. Yeah, we probably wouldn't be unbeaten by the big sides, but I'm pretty positive we would have more points, because we would beat the likes of Empoli. And guess what, it's the points that matter in Serie A, not results against big sides.
You don't make any sense.

Look what Capello was coaching what a squad and look what Ranieri is coaching. Of course Capello had better results with Juventus because we had one of the strongest squads in the world not only in Italy.

Capello doesn't and never accepted to coach a team with average players. So to me Ranieri is doing better job than Capello.

I don't really agree that Ranieri is 10 times the coach Capello is but i agree that considering everything that happened to us in last 2 years, Ranieri did a solid job.
He made few mistakes here and there (like every human does) but my rating for his job is positive !
Probably not 10 times the coach Capello is because he wasn't offered what Capello was offered. Not to mention coming from Serie B isn't something easy.

we dont disagree often, Rab, but this RUINeri is simply not a winner

the man is satisfied with slpooy seconds, or worse, and that just doesnt fit into the Juventus mentality

and while were on the subject, Gigli, SUCKO, and BLANK dont fit here, either

Capello is a proven winner, albeit that he alienates many people in the process, but he is always a guarantee to finish near the top (CL excluded)
I agree with you in everything except the last part.

Ranieri is not a winner? I can't disagree with you here. He's no Lippi thats for sure.

I couldn't agree more concerning the mang. Actually, no one would disagree here about this shitty mang.

As for Capello proven winner....I have said it before, give Capello an average team and he'll prove you that he's anything but a proven winner. His CL notebooks says it all....he's had the best squads with several teams in the last 12years and he never managed to hit the Semi's.... I wouldn't call that person a winner Vinny.

As for the guarantee to finish near the top, c'mon Vinn, even Zeman with Juve's squad 2years ago would have finished in top two.
 

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