Claudio Ranieri (33 Viewers)

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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Even Parma is hesitating in firing Di Carlo as they fear that may be a wrong move. I'm afraid now is too late. This really isn't a good period to change the coach when there are 2 months left in the season. The new coach would maybe bring a positive shock but I'm afraid it would obnly be a stop-gap solution.

Didn't Di Carlo inherit a bad Parma team anyway? From what I heard he did and that’s why they are hesitant to fire him because he hasn't been given a chance to build the team the way he needs to win.

Ranieri on the other hand didn't inherit a poor team at all. In fact despite the lack of judgement and direction on some of the signings, our board has proven that they are willing to throw money around for players. Although those players that we grossly overpayed for we're not worth the amount, it still shows that Ranieri's situation is not that similar to Di Carlo's.

Like I stated previously, I don’t think C-Ra should be fired until the offseason if that is the ultimate decision. But we will need to definitely start wooing big time coaches to land in Turin.
 

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Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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It's not just about the budget Cronios, this team showed the potential to beat everyone in this league, maybe except Inter, but we couldn't beat most of them, because of Ranieri's approach and his character, if it wasn't his wrong mentality, we could not lose the lead of many of the games, and win more points. The wage budget is over the most of serie A teams, even fiorentina and Roma. The transfer amount we spent on players is much more than the other serie A teams, the income of the tv rights, and many other things is much more than Roma and Fiorentina, financial wise, maybe there are two teams we can't compete with in serie A, Milan and Inter. Someone showed a statistic that day, and we were ranked 12 or something in Europe financial wise, so we really are not a poor club Cronios, if we had a manager with character and vision, he would insist to sign the right players for the right prices, instead of wasting all the cash on three defensive players..
I generally agree my friend,about the things you said for our potential,
but, when i m saying budget, you must also consider the budget destined for our coach too, it might look ridiculous, but it did matter for our managers...i know, a tragic situation, but thats how it is!
I had this in mind when i referred to "budget limitations"!
Our annual budget had to include our coaches salary too:spliff: ,
if our owners had the intention to bring anyone better, they would have looked elsewhere from the beginning. They dont want or they cant invest to a better and more expensive coach!:confused:

Now regarding the rest of your post, i think you are too optimistic,
we are certainly not the poorest club of the league and with the increased venues we might as well become the 3rd power in the league,next year, surpassing Roma and Fiorentina,
BUT so far our owners didnt show the intentions to invest enough to compete with the best on the league.
All of our transfers so far, both tactical and strategical, hint that their intentions is not to build a team able to challenge any titles.
We used to live by excuses, that big players wont accept to join us bla bla bla,
but it had been proved that we failed to sign them, only by our budget limitations.
We are not as wealthy and powerful as we used to be and even if we were, our current transfer manager is very very very inefficient and he will fail to close the good deals in our favor, other teams will get the best players, or we will end up paying overpriced players just like we did so far.
Now, if we call a big coach like Mourinho or Lippi, you guys are dreaming, he will ask for some specific long term plans, budget and the authority to build a competitive team!
They will not discuss any contract without those conditions, simply because they may find many clubs that may offer these conditions.
Why would Mourinho accept to join Juve for a halved salary and without any chances of creating a competitive team, now or in the future, that may actually win a title???
Big coaches have big ambitions, they dont waste their time to chase UEFA cups and 4th positions in domestic championships.
Our board members, have demonstrated that they dont intend to let our coach to chose our budget and transfer policy, that was the main reason they sacked DD
and that was the main reason they hired CR, it is a priority for them, for this year at least.
Great coaches work by this type of control as a standard!
We have mentioned these things many times before, dont make me repeat them...
 

Albertmare

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Mar 24, 2006
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Juve Set For Crisis Meeting

Juventus President Giovanni Cobolli Gigli is set to arrange a crisis board meeting to discuss Juventus’ disastrous recent form.

The Bianconeri have picked up just one point in their last three league games, and produced a defensive horror-show in yesterday afternoon’s 3-2 home defeat by Fiorentina.

The loss has left Juve’s Champions League qualification hopes in the balance. Although they are still in third place, the Viola are now just one point behind them, while Milan are just five points away in fifth position.

The level of Juve’s performances have been generally poor since the turn of the year, only really impressing in the wins against Livorno and Roma.

President Cobolli Gigli wants answers for this poor form, and is set to arrange a crisis meeting for talks.

The Juventus hierarchy, including general manager Jean-Claude Blanc, sporting director Alessio Secco, and Gigli himself, have come under huge criticism from club supporters, many of whom are unhappy with how they are running the club.

With 12 games left of the season, Juve need to start picking up their form, otherwise a real crisis would be on the cards should they not qualify for the Champions League.

Gianni Wilson

:tup:
 

Albertmare

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Mar 24, 2006
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Calcio Debate: Gigli, Blanc, Secco & Ranieri - All To Blame?

Juventus’ Champions League qualification hopes are in the balance following the loss to Fiorentina. Carlo Garganese would like to know if the Bianconeri supporters are happy with how the club is being run.

Yesterday afternoon’s 3-2 home defeat to Fiorentina brought a furious reaction from Goal.com’s Juventus readers.

“Sack Ranieri”, “Secco please go”, “Juventus board resign”, “Gigli you haven’t got a clue” – these were just a handful of the kind of comments left by angry tifosi.

In truth this is the feeling that most Juve supporters have had for a quite a long time now – they simply are not happy with how the club is being run.

Coach Claudio Ranieri has taken much of the flack as ultimately the buck stops with him.

‘The Tinkerman’ has been praised by those higher than him for leading Juventus to third place on their first season back in Serie A.

Frankly this is rubbish. Even though Juve lost a herd of world-class players following the Calciopoli crisis, they still retained a host of brilliant and experienced players, including the old guard of Gianluigi Buffon, David Trezeguet, Mauro Camoranesi, Alessandro Del Piero and Pavel Nedved, who would walk into any other Serie A squad. This is the core of the team, and when you add the likes of Vincenzo Iaquinta and Giorgio Chiellini to the mix, how it can possibly be considered an achievement to finish in the top four I do not know.

And even this is not a formality. Fiorentina have closed to within one point of Juve following their victory yesterday, while Milan are only five points back in fifth. Indeed only third place will guarantee qualification for next season’s Champions League. If the Rossoneri win the competition this campaign (their past record over the past five years suggests they could go close), whilst finishing out of the top four in Serie A, then the fourth placed team that could be Juve will be forced into the UEFA Cup.

This would be disastrous for Juve. Gianluigi Buffon would undoubtedly consider his future, so would Mauro Camoranesi and David Trezeguet, Pavel Nedved would retire, while the chances of recruiting top-class players in the summer transfer market would diminish.

Not that the current sporting director, Alessio Secco, would be capable of recruiting anyone good anyway.

Secco is quite possibly the worst transfer director I have ever seen in my life (if anyone knows anyone worse please tell me). His record, to put it nicely, is quite laughable.

Since replacing the king of transfer gurus Luciano Moggi in 2006, Secco has spent in the region of €40m on the following four players: Jean-Alain Boumsong, Tiago Mendes, Sergio Almiron, and Momo Sissoko. The first three all flopped massively, while many feel Sissoko will follow along this same route.

"If I’d have been in charge with the transfer budget that was made available last summer, Juventus would now be fighting for the Scudetto,” Moggi declared last week.

And he is absolutely right.

With the core of players listed above that Juve already had at their disposal, all they really needed was to spend their money on a top-class centre back and top-class creative centre midfielder and certainly they could have been challenging for the Scudetto.
However surely all of the blame cannot be directed at Secco for these disastrous transfer operations. If the sporting director is incompetent, should he not be replaced by those higher up than him?

Giovanni Cobolli Gigli and Jean-Claude Blanc have come out and supported Secco, saying he will be in charge of transfers next season.

So who will be on Juve’s shopping list for next season? Well Titus Bramble will come in at centre back, Emile Heskey will add some firepower up front, while Nicky Butt will be the answer to the Bianconeri’s desperate shortage of defensive centre midfielders.

Outsiders may laugh but the majority of Juventus supporters I have spoken to, are all bitterly opposed to how the club is being run.

There just doesn’t seem to be a decent structure in place, starting from Gigli as President, right through to Ranieri as coach.

The days of Gianni Agnelli and the brilliant Triade of Moggi, Giraudo and Bettega are long gone. The Triade were loved by the fans, first and foremost because they were brilliant at what they did.

The current management have shown few signs that they could ever live up to these high standards.

Carlo Garganese
:tup:

*sarcasm*
 

Albertmare

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Mar 24, 2006
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Juve Fans Want Ranieri Out, Gigli Says He’s Staying

Juventus supporters have voted unanimously on the Bianconeri website VecchiaSignora.com that they want Claudio Ranieri sacked. However President Giovanni Cobolli Gigli has given the Coach a vote of confidence.

Yesterday’s 3-2 defeat to Fiorentina has seen Ranieri come under heavy fire from supporters.

The website VecchiaSignora.com asked its readers whether they thought ‘The Tinkerman’ should be given his marching orders.

Of the users that had voted by early afternoon today, 73.53 % declared that Ranieri should be sacked, while 26.47 % said he should stay in charge.

On the same site, one of the most visited in the world by Juventini, fans started a petition calling for Marcello Lippi to return as Coach.

Meanwhile Juventus President Giovanni Cobolli Gigli has offered his support to Ranieri and declares that he is an excellent coach and is doing a fine job. “Ranieri is and remains an excellent Coach,” Gigli insisted.

“Until recently everyone was singing his praises and one bad moment shouldn't be enough to discredit him.

“There’s no one reason for the current problems. Reggina can be attributed to refereeing errors, as for yesterday, derbies are always tough games to win and we made some unusual errors in defence.”

Gianni Wilson

I LOVE YOU GIGLI . You are worse Than Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck Gigli , EVER :crazy:
 

Arvin

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Dec 30, 2004
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Faith in Ranieri:disagree:, but there is a doubt
 

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