Why not find coach that suits us?Roma changed like 4 coaches in 1-2 year but whatever...they`ve found someone who suits them.Why would we keep him even if we know he`s not good enough for Juve?
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But the thing is, we're talking about signing players such as Diego. If we sign Diego, we will essentially be starting from scratch as our game will be based almost completely around his genius, much like we were when Zidane was here. The latter controlled our play going forward but we were still sound defensively both at the back and in midfield.
Therefore, with a signing such as Diego, as well as others such as Sissoko (who won't play now because of retard Ranieri), Giovinco, Mellberg, possibly another striker and another defender, we will be starting from scratch anyway. Besides, with the way we have been playing, we haven't even looked like a manager has been on our touchline for months.
There is NO point in keeping Ranieri on this team.
Therefore, with a signing such as Diego, as well as others such as Sissoko (who won't play now because of retard Ranieri), Giovinco, Mellberg, possibly another striker and another defender, we will be starting from scratch anyway. Besides, with the way we have been playing, we haven't even looked like a manager has been on our touchline for months.
There is NO point in keeping Ranieri on this team.
My above post is something many don't understand, and it's like they don't even watch the matches. No cohesion, no ideas in midfield, terrible defending regardless of who is on the pitch or who we're playing, no sort of gameplan regardless of who were playing. It's like we aren't even playing with a manager.
And with new additions to the squad such as Giovinco, Sissoko, Mellberg, a VDV figure (HOPEFULLY), perhaps another striker, it will take time for those boys to settle down as it is. That's why we should not wait until they're ready to play to finally realize that Ranieri isn't the manager for us. Go back to Parma, or something.
And we better not finally realize Ranieri isn't the manager for us when he starts using Giovinco/Palladino on the right-wing and VDV on the right-wing. We know something idiotic like this is going to happen anyway.
And with new additions to the squad such as Giovinco, Sissoko, Mellberg, a VDV figure (HOPEFULLY), perhaps another striker, it will take time for those boys to settle down as it is. That's why we should not wait until they're ready to play to finally realize that Ranieri isn't the manager for us. Go back to Parma, or something.
And we better not finally realize Ranieri isn't the manager for us when he starts using Giovinco/Palladino on the right-wing and VDV on the right-wing. We know something idiotic like this is going to happen anyway.
Ultimately any coach is a gamble especially right now. Looking at the suggestions people make for who should be a coach makes me think we should stick to Ranieri and just offer him support through men like Lippi.
Roma changed coaches a bunch of times and have a Coppa Italia to show for it.
The team needs stability. I don't think Juve's coaching options right now are that superior to Ranieri.
Repeat, I wish Didi stayed.
Roma changed coaches a bunch of times and have a Coppa Italia to show for it.
The team needs stability. I don't think Juve's coaching options right now are that superior to Ranieri.
Repeat, I wish Didi stayed.
I am not speaking about the style of play as i strongly oppose this long ball crap and frankly it doesn't suit trezi as hes not that type of player.
Alex plays better when hes playing as a support striker imo.
Sadly we do not have De Ceglie and we do not know if it was the management's mistake of Ranieri's, but we work with what we got.
And i agree about Sissoko
Rome are not the best example there bro. If you are prepared to under achieve like they did before they got I am not.
Agreed here mate, and it comes back to the stability factor that was mentioned before. The ever disappointing board was behind this and it will always leave a bad taste in many juventini's mouths.
Alex plays better when hes playing as a support striker imo.
Sadly we do not have De Ceglie and we do not know if it was the management's mistake of Ranieri's, but we work with what we got.
And i agree about Sissoko
Rome are not the best example there bro. If you are prepared to under achieve like they did before they got I am not.
Agreed here mate, and it comes back to the stability factor that was mentioned before. The ever disappointing board was behind this and it will always leave a bad taste in many juventini's mouths.
I know Ranieri is not the transfer manager, or he is not controlling it, that's the problem exactly. He doesn't have the character to insist on building the squad he want to build, this is why I admired Deschamps for his decision and his action and refusal to not work with idiots like these (the board). Probably everyone knows me here how I stand with the managers until they run out of solutions, but this man doesn't have any solution, he seems everything is going just great, he will sign another defensive midfielder and that way he thinks he built his dream squad already. Come on man can't you see how he is destroying this team? We won't have Nedved next year, and maybe Del Piero won't be on fire like he is now the next season, and he still refuses to sign Van der vaart or Diego, he said Palladino is the one who will take Nedved's role, I don't mind if we rotate Palladino with someone better in that position, but do you seriously think he can fulfill Nedved's roll? Don't you think Van Der Vaart fills that role much better than him?
The problem is not firing him now or at the end of the season, my biggest concern is when we end up in top 4, the board will keep him for another year for that. And this will be huge waste of time, and we will waste loads of money for wrong players, just like we did this year. Not to forget, we will be a big joke in Europe. We should have fired him in January, so the new manager could bring the players he wanted, but sadly these things are all related to results, so firing him at that time or now would seem non-sense, while we will pay for this in the near future heavily..
I say hire one of the best managers out there (I am not talking about the likes of Mourinho who keeps demanding and demanding) that has a character to build and manage a squad he want to, If you asked me last year I wouldn't want Lippi to manage Juve again, but not anymore, I will cut my arm to see him back again, or as a general or transfer manager. WE NEED MEN THAT KNOWS A THING OR TWO ABOUT FOOTBALL..
Fire Secco, Ranieri and Blanc already..
The problem is not firing him now or at the end of the season, my biggest concern is when we end up in top 4, the board will keep him for another year for that. And this will be huge waste of time, and we will waste loads of money for wrong players, just like we did this year. Not to forget, we will be a big joke in Europe. We should have fired him in January, so the new manager could bring the players he wanted, but sadly these things are all related to results, so firing him at that time or now would seem non-sense, while we will pay for this in the near future heavily..
I say hire one of the best managers out there (I am not talking about the likes of Mourinho who keeps demanding and demanding) that has a character to build and manage a squad he want to, If you asked me last year I wouldn't want Lippi to manage Juve again, but not anymore, I will cut my arm to see him back again, or as a general or transfer manager. WE NEED MEN THAT KNOWS A THING OR TWO ABOUT FOOTBALL..
Fire Secco, Ranieri and Blanc already..
Too many people forget that our legendary Lippi had a similar season in 2003-2004. He was an unbelievable coach for us but circumstance plays a role. That year the team was plagued with injury much like this year. In the end Juvenus was not in the terrible situation they are in today and in my opinion did worse then. We got killed by Milan 3-1, Inter 4-0, Roma 4-0, etc. Injuries hurt the team. I can’t stress this enough, Ranieri is not the best option but replacing him won’t solve our issues. Not entirely anyway.
I agree that Ranieri is not the best but you can't dump everything on him.
For argument sake, can I get some suggestions as to a replacement? Who do you guys want next year?
I agree that Ranieri is not the best but you can't dump everything on him.
For argument sake, can I get some suggestions as to a replacement? Who do you guys want next year?
Ranieri's tactics are pretty horrid. Before Abramovic joined Chelsea, he was actually doing a good job. I'm not sure what happened with him at Valencia, but he doesn't seem to be the same. He was known for switching tactics and mixing things against the opposition but it seems that he doesn't. For example, we have a problem with injuries and instead of balancing the team out a bit, he sticks to the 4-4-2 and we look very uninspiring as we draw against Catania, Sampdoria and Cagliari.
Now I'm not going to say that there weren't some calls which weren't wrong, but in those games we created next to nothing and got goals out of nowhere. If he had let go of the 4-4-2 and played with a creative formation which he used to use then we would maybe had won two out of those three games at least. Iaquinta's performance against Empoli in the second half would have given me enough proof that he needs to start but he wasn't.
Honestly, bringing in a new coach now would be the best thing to do. You are too worried that we will be acting like Inter, but we aren't as long as we have the white and they have the blue.
With Lippi out of a job we obviously should be looking to him for a position in our team, but it isn't proven that he has been good at being a director. He has no experience at it, and we all know that as a manager, he is one of the best. You can see where I am going, and if he refuses and wants to quit management, then offer the directors role. He'll be a mile better than what we have even if he is rather poor at it.
A new manager is what I want though, I am uncertain of keeping this 3rd place with our recent form and with Milan on the way back again. Ranieri is not good enough to be here and we need a change. Look at those available on the market, and look at what they have already won compared to CR.
Now I'm not going to say that there weren't some calls which weren't wrong, but in those games we created next to nothing and got goals out of nowhere. If he had let go of the 4-4-2 and played with a creative formation which he used to use then we would maybe had won two out of those three games at least. Iaquinta's performance against Empoli in the second half would have given me enough proof that he needs to start but he wasn't.
Honestly, bringing in a new coach now would be the best thing to do. You are too worried that we will be acting like Inter, but we aren't as long as we have the white and they have the blue.
With Lippi out of a job we obviously should be looking to him for a position in our team, but it isn't proven that he has been good at being a director. He has no experience at it, and we all know that as a manager, he is one of the best. You can see where I am going, and if he refuses and wants to quit management, then offer the directors role. He'll be a mile better than what we have even if he is rather poor at it.
A new manager is what I want though, I am uncertain of keeping this 3rd place with our recent form and with Milan on the way back again. Ranieri is not good enough to be here and we need a change. Look at those available on the market, and look at what they have already won compared to CR.
I just don't get it, how come everyone is always ready to attack Ranieri. You dont give a man any chance at all. I was not to have him at Juve in the first place, but if he is here, than, i will support him till something really stupid happen, ie, we start loosing the ground. But at the same time i will not read media BS and try to make sense out of it. Maybe Andy is right in some things about current (no) style game, but so far it does bring results. He plays safe game for sake of his arse. To be frank with you all, i think that only way to get sacked Ranieri would be if we replace our board as well, but i dont think that will happen any time now..
Andy it is very difficult to judge serie B and A league and we all know that.
With Didi, our great Juve played average, lost some stupid games and had almost same squad as we have now. We used to hardly win even with 1:0 , when we should just fly by 2nd devision. Didi IS Juve legend and it will always stay that way, but doesn't mean he is better than whoever..
Didi might be good one day but he needs more experience for sure. Staying with Juve it would be best thing for him, maybe even for Juve but really dont know what happened and i will not try to make any guess.
Anyway our beloved Juve lost an edge by being one year down and not playing as competitive games as we play right now. So it does take bit time to make our Camo DP, Neddy sharper, and please consider their age too. They are older not younger, they can't pull as they could before.
We go in circles again and again, all the time with this subject.
I think we will not replace Ranieri now or in a summer providing we qualify for CL spot.
But, that should not worry some of you as many of you who are against him said that if we continue with the same game plan as we are playing now we shall loose even 4th spot. If you are right, than don't worry he will go for sure..But i will be not happy, not cos we lost "stupid" manager, but cos we lost CL spot.
With Didi, our great Juve played average, lost some stupid games and had almost same squad as we have now. We used to hardly win even with 1:0 , when we should just fly by 2nd devision. Didi IS Juve legend and it will always stay that way, but doesn't mean he is better than whoever..
Didi might be good one day but he needs more experience for sure. Staying with Juve it would be best thing for him, maybe even for Juve but really dont know what happened and i will not try to make any guess.
Anyway our beloved Juve lost an edge by being one year down and not playing as competitive games as we play right now. So it does take bit time to make our Camo DP, Neddy sharper, and please consider their age too. They are older not younger, they can't pull as they could before.
We go in circles again and again, all the time with this subject.
I think we will not replace Ranieri now or in a summer providing we qualify for CL spot.
But, that should not worry some of you as many of you who are against him said that if we continue with the same game plan as we are playing now we shall loose even 4th spot. If you are right, than don't worry he will go for sure..But i will be not happy, not cos we lost "stupid" manager, but cos we lost CL spot.