Claudio Ranieri (33 Viewers)

Pingo

Senior Member
Oct 31, 2007
674
Jackass coach and jackass statement. I wan't glad with his appointment but I was never against him till the last few days. First he is saying that we are want to compete for the scudetto (which was highly stupid) and he is relying on succes we had in first part of season. The most stupid thing is that if he admited that we have no chance for Scudetto why he also didn't admited that we need few new faces and that we can't always rely on Pavel, Alex & co.
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Ok my dear friend.

So your proposal about signing an petition against Ranieri its not a stupid comment right now in the middle of season, with some of best players injured true whole of big part of season.
You said this is not a game that Juventus play? Well you dont have good old Juve anymore thanks to mafia which by the look you still missing.
He doesn't have much choice in regards to players , most of creative stuff is injured and now we are lacking some defense as well.
And we are not lucky as you say..Check last few games and see how many times we failed to score ..not to mention few games we lost or draw thanks to poor decisions...

But wait, there are two games against Inter in very short space..For sure we are underdogs and most probably we shall loose..I hope not.
So why than you show us how furious you can be in regards to coach.

PS. I saw in your profile that u are PS2 lover. Why dont u go and chill out for a bit..
As long we have players and coaches like Ranieri and Tiago, i will support them. When they go..ok, there is someone else to show respect ..Until than, just take it easy please..

Yo deepSHI**...What mafia!?
Stop talking out of your ass...And stop defending RUInieri

RUNieri is bad for the club and bad manager, period...And the shit what he is saying lately is realy stupid... “We’re simply not good enough.” , "Certainly we have made mistakes but in general our purchases from the summer have been positive" , “There is real gap now and you couldn’t close it in six months or even a year” and my favourite “We are still having an amazing campaign. We had an exceptional first half and we hope to repeat it....Superb statements to lift teams morale, idiot...

Nice job for the manager right? yee sure...Hope we lose against Inter in Coppa and slip on to 5th place...Maybe and just maybe than, the board will see what we got managin our players+Secco (sack them straightaway, i mean NOW)...:inter:

He is now buying SHITSooko for 13m€+ -which can be down payment for Diego, the playmaker that we truely need- "He is a good player that could fit into the pattern of our team."-RUIneri on Shitsoko...Great statement...:crazy:

He said: "We will certainly do something but we have to find the right player for us.- SHItsooko isn't that PLAYER for US, NUMB NUTS...
 

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Pingo

Senior Member
Oct 31, 2007
674
Calcio Debate: Are Juve Fans Turning Against Ranieri & Secco?

Claudio Ranieri’s decision to substitute Alessandro Del Piero with Vincenzo Iaquinta against Sampdoria yesterday backfired terribly. Carlo Garganese believes that the Bianconeri supporters are starting to have serious doubts about the Coach, as well as sporting director Alessio Secco…

Juventus may be third in Serie A and still well on course to achieve their seasonal objective of qualifying for the Champions League, however one has the feeling that the Old Lady’s passionate supporters are not too confident that their club is in the right hands.

Following the post-Calciopoli promotion from Serie B, this season was always going to be complicated for Italy’s most successful club, and many will argue that if they were to finish the campaign in the position they currently occupy this would be a superb achievement.

Nevertheless it is self-explanatory due to their prestigious name and their glorious history that Juventus belong at the very top of Italian and European football.

With Claudio Ranieri as Coach and Alessio Secco as sporting director, do the Juve supporters trust that these two figures will, along with President Giovanni Cobolli Gigli, managing director Jean-Claude Blanc and other key hierarchical figures, place them back on their almighty throne?

The answer to this question is certainly clouded with uncertainty.

Ranieri was never going to be the most popular of choices when he took over the reigns from Didier Deschamps at the beginning of the season.

However the Tinkerman seemed to be winning over many fans as Juve surprised the critics and even suggested for a while that they may be able to challenge Inter for the Scudetto.

As the Bianconeri have drifted out of the picture recently it seems that the doubts over Ranieri’s ability have resurfaced again, and this was taken to new heights yesterday by his inexplicable decision to substitute Alessandro Del Piero with Vincenzo Iaquinta at half-time of yesterday’s goalless draw with Sampdoria.

Admittedly Del Piero did not have one of his better games for Juve, particularly given his stunning form of late, however the Golden Boy was the key link man between the midfield and attack as the Old Lady completely dominated the first half in Turin without scoring.

After Del Piero’s exit Juve were simply dreadful and did not create a single chance of note for the entire second period. For a team much maligned for a lack of creativity in midfield, particularly given Mauro Camoranesi’s injury-absence, it baffles me as to the reasoning behind Ranieri’s thinking yesterday. Indeed I am certain that Juventus would have won the game if Del Piero had stayed on the pitch.

It is this kind of 'tinkering’ and irrational thinking that has clouded Ranieri throughout his career. While at Chelsea the tactician was consistently poked fun at by the English media for some of his illogical tactical decisions. Indeed Chelsea blew their best-ever chance of winning the Champions League in 2004 because of Ranieri.

The Blues were playing Monaco in the semi-final first leg in Monte Carlo and looked strong favourites to make the final, with the scores level at 1-1 and the French side down to 10 men after the 52nd minute sending-off of Andreas Zikos.

Ranieri then curiously opted to completely unbalance his side by bringing on Jimmy Floyd-Hasselbaink for Mario Melchiot, and Robert Huth for Scott Parker. The ten men of Monaco then regained the initiative and scored twice late-on to win 3-1, and they would eventually book their place in the final, where they would lose to Jose Mourinho’s Porto.

It is bizarre decisions such as these that help explain why Ranieri has never won a league or European title throughout his entire coaching career. Yesterday’s substitution of Del Piero certainly suggests that this trend will continue here in Turin if the Tinkerman continues past the end of the current season.

And so on to the much-maligned Alessio Secco.

Secco was appointed as Juventus’ Head of Sporting Activities at the beginning of the 2006/07 season – essentially replacing Luciano Moggi, who of course left the club after the Calciopoli crisis.

It doesn’t take a rocket-scientist to work out that Secco’s work in the transfer market ever since his promotion to this position has been nothing short of disastrous.

Perhaps the signs were ominous as soon as Juventus announced the signature of Newcastle Utd’s Jean-Alain Boumsong for a fee of close to €5m in August 2006.

Anyone who follows English football will remember the quite hysterical, disaster-ridden centre-back partnership that the Frenchman shared with Titus Malachi Bramble. The duo were dubbed the 'Chuckle Brothers’, after the slapstick, error-prone British comedy duo.

Last summer’s transfer policy was even worse, as Secco pushed for the club to splash out a combined €22m on midfield pair Tiago Mendes and Sergio Almiron from Lyon and Empoli respectively. Both players have been huge flops, and are certain to leave the club either this month or in June.

Secco’s other signings from last summer have also failed to shine. The injury-prone Jorge Andrade was awful in the opening weeks of the season before he broke his kneecap, while Zdenek Grygera and Hasan Salihamidzic have hardly set the world on fire.

As I have stated in the past, the only new players who have impressed this term, Antonio Nocerino and Vincenzo Iaquinta, actually weren’t Secco’s signings. They were in fact former transfer guru Luciano Moggi’s players.

So it is agreed that Juventus’ transfer campaign was a complete disaster.

Fast forward to January 2008 and it seems that Secco and the Juventus hierarchy are still making the same mistakes. First of all they agreed to release Domenico Criscito on-loan to Genoa until the end of the season, leaving Juve dreadfully short of central defenders.

With Giorgio Chiellini ruled out for up to six weeks, Andrade sidelined for months, Zebina also injured, and Boumsong set to move to Lyon, Juve have just Nicola Legrottaglie as a natural centre back option.

What is even worse is that Secco seems ready to sanction a €13-15m move for Liverpool midfielder Momo Sissoko.

For those of you who don’t know, Sissoko translated means “can’t pass, can’t tackle, can’t shoot and can’t control a ball.”

I am a firm believer in giving people second chances, and I honestly hope that Secco can turn things around because from all accounts he is said to be a very nice person, just like Ranieri is.

However there is no time for sentiment in this business and serious question marks remain whether these two figures are the right men to take Juventus back to the top of Italian and European football.

What are your views on this topic? Are Juve Fans Turning Against Ranieri & Secco? What do non-Juve supporters think of the duo? Goal.com wants to know what YOU think.
 

HelterSkelter

Senior Member
Apr 15, 2005
20,567
I dont really have an issue with Ranieri saying that Juventus arent challengers for the Scudetto now.If anything,it brings you down to reality.But Ranieri has to go.Wether its now or in the summer is the only question as far as im concerned.One season of him is enough.
 

Gill_juve

Senior Member
May 29, 2006
5,494
what is really annoying is the way our club will run, we cant really do anything to stop the signing of sissoko, yets that are thousands if not millions opposing it. and i wish it was more like spain where we get a serious voice in what happens to OUR club.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,381
So now he declares that we are out of the title race, what will he say when we slip to 5th position? That our purpose was UEFA cup? And what then? That the objective is to avoid relegation?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,326
At this point it is finally justified to complain about Ranieri. We all knew he wasn't fit for the job, but uptil now he had been doing well.
 

Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
16,641
i dont know if media is twisting some words, but ranieri is giving laughable interviews. Sure i knew myself that trophy was too much to ask, but he shouldnt say things like "we arent good enough", ironically his looking for players like sissoko, well how on earth are we supposed to be getting better then?
 

Arvin

Juve Star
Dec 30, 2004
1,600
Calcio Debate: Are Juve Fans Turning Against Ranieri & Secco?
why arent they posting my comment, i didnt wrote anything wrong.

i just wrote that he must corect the sentence which before was

"Ranieri was never going to be the most popular of choices when he took over the sacked from Didier Deschamps at the beginning of the season.

and after he edited to

"Ranieri was never going to be the most popular of choices when he took over the reigns from Didier Deschamps at the beginning of the season."

am i wrong that DD was never been sacked he resigned himself...to resign and to sack is two different things.....IMO
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
ranieri can't cut running a club with ambitions, he has served his time and should be shown the door for the good of the club, also his ridiculous comment of "transfers are nothing to do with me, you need to ask the board" sums up his ridiculous mentality. this guy should be taking a hands on role and pushing for players rather than sitting back and accepting what he is given. we need a strong manager that will fight for us not this coach who has never even come close to winning anything in his career
 

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