Claudio Ranieri (41 Viewers)

[Bozi]

Ranieri is not a winner, he is a team builder.

completely agree on this statement, if you look at ranieri's career (parma excluded) he has come in and stabilised a team, introduced some younger players and generally started a rebuilding process. mallorca,valencia and chelsea all had a solid foundation when he left that success was built on.

i do not think ranieri is teh man to bring us the scudetto but we will be better served to challenge after he goes

The only thing I appreciate is the league position, even thou other teams are sucking. He has time until the end of the season. If he things don't go the right way, someone should show him the door. But not right now!

ranieri has done little wrong here,he has done little exceptional either and that is the problem. we are always going to struggle to compete with inters squad and for me this season is all about consolidating, getting a CL place ad buildingfrom there

What I find disturbing is that the current side(even at full strength) is only marginally superiour (if at all) to last season's side.

thats maybe a wee bit harsh, we have not had a lot of investment and of the 3 major signings, 2 have been flops and 1 has been badly injured! the old heads (nedved,zanetti,delpie) ahve performed well and helped bring the younger players through,with legro also finally beginning to play like a serie a player.

 

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[Maher]

Ranieri is not a winner , he is a survivor who can let a team survive from religation like he did with parma , but you cant win anything with him since he dont like creativity and attacking , he like to play it safe all the time.

 

[Bozi]

Ranieri is not a winner , he is a survivor who can let a team survive from religation like he did with parma , but you cant win anything with him since he dont like creativity and attacking , he like to play it safe all the time.

look at his career maher, sure he aint a winner but he aint a fighter either. ignore parma because that was teh exception to the rule.

calgiari- promoted from serie C1 to serie a

napoli-finished 4th but introduced Zola to teh team

fiorentina-promoted from serie b and wn coppa italia and italian supercoppa

valencia-qualification for CL and coppa del rey success. brought in canizarez and lopez as well as bringing through mendieta,albelda,angulo,etc.... he pretty much lay down the foundations that valencia's success was built on

at chelsea he took over a team in financial trouble and improved their point tally evry year before the abramovich takeover. he brought through john terry and signed lampard,joe cole, makelele. again the foundations were laid in place for his predecessor

back at valencia he did struggle but helped set up a squad that quique sanchez flores prospered with..



basically he may never have won the league but do not underestimate his ability to build a squad, and to class him as a relageation struggler is to show a complete lack of football knowledge

 

[jukazem]

ranieri was never a winner and i don't think he will change. and third place is not good. it's not even a champions league place, just a place in the cl qualifying phase. also why would people think juve would struggle this year? we had buffon, delpiero, trezeguet, camoranesi, nedved, iaquinta, cheillini and andrade. juve had no reason to struggle.

 

[Dominic]

:thats maybe a wee bit harsh, we have not had a lot of investment and of the 3 major signings, 2 have been flops and 1 has been badly injured! the old heads (nedved,zanetti,delpie) ahve performed well and helped bring the younger players through,with legro also finally beginning to play like a serie a player.

Yes, it's not exactly Ranieri's fault as it is the boards. I wanted to point it though.

DP and Nedved were brilliant last season, whereas Nedved has gone through bad patches this season. DP is still doing well and Zanetti is Zanetti. Last season, Camo wasnt injured as often though and Marchisio isn't inferiour to Nocerino. So i'd say last season's midfield wins it.

The central of the defence has improved(but we already had these players in the squad last season), but the fullback positions haven't.

Nocerino and Salihamidzic are worthy squad material, who add quantity but the team's quality hasn't improved much.

So basically only Iaquinta is a direct improvement.

 

[Bozi]

Yes, it's not exactly Ranieri's fault as it is the boards. I wanted to point it though.

DP and Nedved were brilliant last season, whereas Nedved has gone through bad patches this season. DP is still doing well and Zanetti is Zanetti. Last season, Camo wasnt injured as often though and Marchisio isn't inferiour to Nocerino. So i'd say last season's midfield wins it.

The central of the defence has improved(but we already had these players in the squad last season), but the fullback positions haven't. Nocerino and Salihamidzic are worthy squad material, who add quantity but the team's quality hasn't improved much.

So basically only Iaquinta is a direct improvement.

personally i cant see neddy playing on next season. serie a has been quite hard on him this year and he cant go on forever only another shot at the CL may tempt him to play on, though he may be a last 30minute player

 

[pavelnedved]

nedved will never be a supersub. he's not that kind of player

 

[Maher]

look at his career maher, sure he aint a winner but he aint a fighter either. ignore parma because that was teh exception to the rule.

calgiari- promoted from serie C1 to serie a

napoli-finished 4th but introduced Zola to teh team

fiorentina-promoted from serie b and wn coppa italia and italian supercoppa

valencia-qualification for CL and coppa del rey success. brought in canizarez and lopez as well as bringing through mendieta,albelda,angulo,etc.... he pretty much lay down the foundations that valencia's success was built on

at chelsea he took over a team in financial trouble and improved their point tally evry year before the abramovich takeover. he brought through john terry and signed lampard,joe cole, makelele. again the foundations were laid in place for his predecessor

back at valencia he did struggle but helped set up a squad that quique sanchez flores prospered with..



basically he may never have won the league but do not underestimate his ability to build a squad, and to class him as a relageation struggler is to show a complete lack of football knowledge

he maybe as you said has the ability to build a squad but as the end fans will not see that especially juve fans who want juve to be back on top ASAP.

 

[Bozi]

oh i have no doubt that he is capable of building a squad, capable of coppa success and capable of obtaining CL qualification! he is not capable of building upon this and bringing scudetto success of that there is no doubt but its unfair to class him as a battler or a relegation scrapper

 

[Bozi]

nedved will never be a supersub. he's not that kind of player

neddy is superb but, unfortunately his legs are going. he cannot keep up his standards for 90 minutes for a whole campaign, he may be better served as a sub or a starter in decisive games, sad as it is to admit, we all get old



even neddy

 

[Maher]

it will be good if he is capable of obtaining CL qualification this year but next year fans will want more than this and since he cant do that he must be changed next year with the addition of good players

 

[pavelnedved]

neddy is superb but, unfortunately his legs are going. he cannot keep up his standards for 90 minutes for a whole campaign, he may be better served as a sub or a starter in decisive games, sad as it is to admit, we all get old



even neddy

yeah sure, but he's not the kind of guy you bring in in the last quarter to decide the game


forza nedved anyway

 

[Bozi]

it will be good if he is capable of obtaining CL qualification this year but next year fans will want more than this and since he cant do that he must be changed next year with the addition of good players

i have no problem with that! i just hate to see a man get dissed when he is doing exactly as he is expected to do, also when people seem to know nothing about what he is capable of or what his history is

 

[Bozi]

yeah sure, but he's not the kind of guy you bring in in the last quarter to decide the game


forza nedved anyway

a fresh,fit nedved in the last half an hour might just be able to help sway a game. i cannot see him being a regular starter every game next year,sadly,if he is not used this way then he may decide to walk away and i would ahte to see him leave when he still ahs something to offer

 

[pavelnedved]

a fresh,fit nedved in the last half an hour might just be able to help sway a game. i cannot see him being a regular starter every game next year,sadly,if he is not used this way then he may decide to walk away and i would ahte to see him leave when he still ahs something to offer

it could be, but i don't see him that way. nedved is about hard work for the team and for sure he can outplay his direct opponent by cutting inside or delivering a cross but i don't see this is his main threat. His strength is that he makes things so much easier for his team-mates, even if it is because of hard work. He's so complete, he participates in our attacks and destroys the opponents'.

A player like camo would be an ideal supersub (although you have to be stupid not to put him in the starting line-up at juve), he has the ability to dribble past the tired legs of the opponent and create something, even more than del piero imo (anno 2008).

but i definitely agree that pavel can't perform week after week anymore. But if i would use him i would put him in from the beginning. That's what i would do.

 

[Bozi]

i know what you mean but i see his hard work, tireless running, shooting from distance,etc being mush more valuable against tired opponents where his lack of explosive pace is not so much of a problem.

 

[David01]

Ranieri's job is to get us into CL next season, we are liying in third position
I'd say he is doing his job

 

[Bozi]

Ranieri's job is to get us into CL next season, we are liying in third position
I'd say he is doing his job

 

[Amaurisimo]

and as long results are here he should be given a chance.
Of course not everybody can be happy bunny , but lets see how it goes..
So far-very good...

 

[suligodsilla]

Ranieri's job is to get us into CL next season, we are liying in third position
I'd say he is doing his job