Claudio Ranieri (10 Viewers)

[jamsieboy86]

Do you think that Coutinho and Alvarez will do anything special?

Alvarez shows glimpses of class, reminds me so much of a young Kaka. Think he could be great but needs a better environment than he is in to succeed in Italy. Coutinho will probably be a decent player but don't so him as anything special.

 

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[Byrone]

In Serie A, yeah I totally agree, cos we got two of your best players. Our success in Europe was due to Mourinho and buying Sneijder and Eto'o, was a few years after Cacliopoli, so not attributable to that. It was we got the best manager and had two of the best players.

I agree on the bolded part for sure but to totally dismiss the effect of calciopoli even if it was after a couple of years is wrong. Those scudetti instilled a new found confidence in the team, it continued for years with confidence growing. Mourinho great coach as he is, had multiple WC players at his disposal at Chelsea & still failed to deliver. There are various factors to consider besides those mentioned.

 

[jamsieboy86]

I agree on the bolded part for sure but to totally dismiss the effect of calciopoli even if it was after a couple of years is wrong. Those scudetti instilled a new found confidence in the team, it continued for years with confidence growing. Mourinho great coach as he is, had multiple WC players at his disposal at Chelsea & still failed to deliver. There are various factors to consider besides those mentioned.

Yeah very true, the foundations were laid(due to the position we were in after calciopoli) before Mourinho, Eto'o, Sneijder et al arrived at Inter. However I don't think we would've won the CL with Mancini, that's why I don't think our success was due solely to calciopoli, as you say there are various factors to consider.

 

[Trequartista]

Yeah very true, the foundations were laid(due to the position we were in after calciopoli) before Mourinho, Eto'o, Sneijder et al arrived at Inter. However I don't think we would've won the CL with Mancini, that's why I don't think our success was due solely to calciopoli, as you say there are various factors to consider.

Would have Mourinho come to coach Inter if there had been no Calciopoli, with Inter most likely nowhere near the top of Serie A?

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

jamsieboy86 is the only Inter fan I've encounter on the interwebz that doesnt sound like too much of a prick. At least it seems you can have a rational and decent convo with him.

 

[Klin]

jamsieboy86 is the only Inter fan I've encounter on the interwebz that doesnt sound like too much of a prick. At least it seems you can have a rational and decent convo with him.

Pussy.

Fuck him.

 

[Trezegol17]

Yeah very true, the foundations were laid(due to the position we were in after calciopoli) before Mourinho, Eto'o, Sneijder et al arrived at Inter. However I don't think we would've won the CL with Mancini, that's why I don't think our success was due solely to calciopoli, as you say there are various factors to consider.

Yes your succes is only thx to Calciopoli, we had the best team out there and there was no chance in hell that either Inter, Milan nor Roma could take away the Scudetto from us. Untill Calciopoli happend and our Team and club got ripped apart while Inter got 2 of our star player and the rest is history.

 

[JuventinMalti]

Yeah very true, the foundations were laid(due to the position we were in after calciopoli) before Mourinho, Eto'o, Sneijder et al arrived at Inter. However I don't think we would've won the CL with Mancini, that's why I don't think our success was due solely to calciopoli, as you say there are various factors to consider.

Pardon my frankness, but that's just stupid. Say for example there is a tsunami, a bunch of people lose their homes, and are then forced to migrate. Would you say that their migration was due to the tsunami? Or due to them not having a home? It's both, but discounting the tsunami as if it's a minor detail is just convenient argumentation that an inter fan would use in this case. Without calciopoli inter would not have managed to win the titles they won, they would not have been able to have easy leagues, they wouldn't have had the allure that they have to sign particular players, and they wouldn't have had the muscle to win.

On second thoughts, you're right. Inter did not win all they won because of calciopoli. There were other factors involved. Like for example, favourable refereeing, especially in that tainted champions league trophy.

 

[Azzurri7]

Pussy.

Fuck him.

 

[Elvin]

I actually don't mind merda winning their next match so Ruinieri stays longer :evil:

 

[Albo]

I actually don't mind merda winning their next match so Ruinieri stays longer :evil:

Yeah i hope they will win against Lille and flop against Genoa .

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I actually don't mind merda winning their next match so Ruinieri stays longer :evil:

I'd rather he gets fired and they have to look for a 3rd coach for the season--more expense, more drama, more turmoil. Because the problem isn't really Ranieri anyway, and if he can't bring a little stability to that team, who can they get that would?

 

[jamsieboy86]

Would have Mourinho come to coach Inter if there had been no Calciopoli, with Inter most likely nowhere near the top of Serie A?

Highly doubt he would've.

Pardon my frankness, but that's just stupid. Say for example there is a tsunami, a bunch of people lose their homes, and are then forced to migrate. Would you say that their migration was due to the tsunami? Or due to them not having a home? It's both, but discounting the tsunami as if it's a minor detail is just convenient argumentation that an inter fan would use in this case. Without calciopoli inter would not have managed to win the titles they won, they would not have been able to have easy leagues, they wouldn't have had the allure that they have to sign particular players, and they wouldn't have had the muscle to win.

On second thoughts, you're right. Inter did not win all they won because of calciopoli. There were other factors involved. Like for example, favourable refereeing, especially in that tainted champions league trophy.

Your example is too simplistic in fairness.

Calciopoli gave us a great platform to dominate in Italy and build upon it in Europe. Don't forget Milan won a CL post calciopoli too. So while it put us in a great position, it didn't make us best team in the country by a distance. We still won scudetti while Milan were the best team in Europe.

Juventini are always going to play up the part calciopoli had in Inter's success, while Interisti will play it down.

How is our CL tainted in any way, we overcame the refs as well as Barca in the Camp Nou to get to the final, so refereeing was def not in our favour.

 

[jamsieboy86]

jamsieboy86 is the only Inter fan I've encounter on the interwebz that doesnt sound like too much of a prick. At least it seems you can have a rational and decent convo with him.

Thanks dude. I always try to be as rational as I can and not look at things through Inter-tinted glasses. I like seeing things from a complete opposite perspective to challenge they way I see things, doesn't mean I'll always agree however.

 

[JuventinMalti]

Highly doubt he would've.



Your example is too simplistic in fairness.

Calciopoli gave us a great platform to dominate in Italy and build upon it in Europe. Don't forget Milan won a CL post calciopoli too. So while it put us in a great position, it didn't make us best team in the country by a distance. We still won scudetti while Milan were the best team in Europe.

Juventini are always going to play up the part calciopoli had in Inter's success, while Interisti will play it down.

How is our CL tainted in any way, we overcame the refs as well as Barca in the Camp Nou to get to the final, so refereeing was def not in our favour.

 

[JuveJay]

Yeah, that's bs to be honest, Inter had the refs just as every team who wins the CL needs at some stage.

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[JuventinMalti]

That's arguable. The point was jamsieboy was playing ignorant as to what I'm talking about, even suggesting that refs were against Inter in CL. There were much more examples, but I can't be arsed to look them up. The point is a basic one, Inter would have never won the CL without Calciopoli giving them a lift over the previous years.

 

[jamsieboy86]

That's arguable. The point was jamsieboy was playing ignorant as to what I'm talking about, even suggesting that refs were against Inter in CL. There were much more examples, but I can't be arsed to look them up. The point is a basic one, Inter would have never won the CL without Calciopoli giving them a lift over the previous years.

Tbh, I never noticed any of those decisions that went our way before. The only thing I noticed about the refereeing in the semi was the disgraceful red card that was given to Motta, that's why I said the refs were against Inter. On balance the decisions evened out for both sides in that semi really. I agree we never would've won the CL without calciopoli but it was not the main reason we won it. We still had to win all the trophies we did, we could've easily failed and not won anything. How many times have teams not won against 10 men, yet when they win against 10 it was because of the red card. You still have to perform and get the results when you are put in a good position, its not a given. The first 3 scudetti were directly because of calciopoli, the next 2 and the CL were influenced by it but not the main reason.

 

[Juventino★★★]

Tbh, I never noticed any of those decisions that went our way before. The only thing I noticed about the refereeing in the semi was the disgraceful red card that was given to Motta, that's why I said the refs were against Inter. On balance the decisions evened out for both sides in that semi really. I agree we never would've won the CL without calciopoli but it was not the main reason we won it. We still had to win all the trophies we did, we could've easily failed and not won anything. How many times have teams not won against 10 men, yet when they win against 10 it was because of the red card. You still have to perform and get the results when you are put in a good position, its not a given. The first 3 scudetti were directly because of calciopoli, the next 2 and the CL were influenced by it but not the main reason.

really?

the same Motta with the help of Samuel were bringing players down to make sure they don't head the balls. and don't tell me this is even arguable. CLEAR penalties + yellow or red cards.

+ Lucio clear handball.

and so many other calls

 

[Elvin]

Thread title should be renamed to Claudio Ranieri - uno di noi