Claudio Ranieri (38 Viewers)

Jun 13, 2007
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No Andy. Ranieri should play him against less physical sides where he would have room to manuever without having his liver knocked out of him. Against teams like Inter, he won't stand a chance. The kid should eat more, he should start lifting some more weights and add a little matter to that small physique of his. Only then will have a chance of playing against teams like Inter.

What worries me though, is that Ranieri prefers Nedved over Gio in the small games where Gio is obviously the better option. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens..
 

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mondo1

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May 14, 2006
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so for what do we need gio than? sell him and cash in if we don't use him or if he is too risky to play... i'd rather take a risk than seeing a legend been outplayed for 90min
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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No Andy. Ranieri should play him against less physical sides where he would have room to manuever without having his liver knocked out of him. Against teams like Inter, he won't stand a chance. The kid should eat more, he should start lifting some more weights and add a little matter to that small physique of his. Only then will have a chance of playing against teams like Inter.

What worries me though, is that Ranieri prefers Nedved over Gio in the small games where Gio is obviously the better option. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens..
If Giovinco has no chance against Inter then we should sell him and make a profit. I'm sorry, there isn't a point to keep him if we can only use him against teams with small players.

That's the reality of the situation. He's already almost 22 and he won't grow much more. Play him or sell him, that's it. Gotta be honest here.
 
Jun 13, 2007
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If Giovinco has no chance against Inter then we should sell him and make a profit. I'm sorry, there isn't a point to keep him if we can only use him against teams with small players.

That's the reality of the situation. He's already almost 22 and he won't grow much more. Play him or sell him, that's it. Gotta be honest here.
Although it would be harsh to sell him before even trying him out against teams like Inter, he hasn't gotten his chance yet and it would be a shame to see such a great talent go. However, it would probably benefit us more to sell the guy and make some cash off him before it's too late.

I remember I said this at the start of the season, Giovinco will never start a big game.

there are two obvious reasons for this.

1- His weak figure.

2- Ranieri's a coward.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Although it would be harsh to sell him before even trying him out against teams like Inter, he hasn't gotten his chance yet and it would be a shame to see such a great talent go. However, it would probably benefit us more to sell the guy and make some cash off him before it's too late.

I remember I said this at the start of the season, Giovinco will never start a big game.

there are two obvious reasons for this.

1- His weak figure.

2- Ranieri's a coward.
One plus two equals three. Sell him and be done with it.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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Then what the hell is the point of keeping Giovinco at Juve if you all think he will get crushed against teams like inter? Honestly, I have to agree with Andy. We have two gems of creativity sitting wasting on the bench. They both could have started and had terrible games but had one moment of creative brilliance that could have made the difference tonight. I would have put my money on a younger more agile Giovinco than an old tireless nedved. Gio and Camo (like DP) can draw in defenders and get the foul for FKs. We didnt get one DP FK today. What other coach in the world would start marco over Camo in the biggest game of the year if both were fit to play? What coach subs DC on for DP? What coach rarely ever uses all 3 of his subs? what other coaches wait SO DAMN LONG to use subs?

Yeah sure Inter were stronger and more physical than us, so what that had nothing to do with how they scored the winning goal was it? We have players that can hit back but we have players starting like marco who let other teams bitch slap him. What is the point of wasting Giovinco or our budget for his salary if we arent going to use him? I think its bull to not play a great player because of his size. Zola was never big and he did well, there are loads of tiny players that do wonders but their coachs had the balls to play them.
 
Jun 13, 2007
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Three minus two equals one.

I watched Gio's games with Empoli and the Italian U21 side. I think most of us here have a soft spot for the guy, I'd rather sell Ranieri than sell Gio. One obviously has more talent than the other.
 
Jun 13, 2007
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Then what the hell is the point of keeping Giovinco at Juve if you all think he will get crushed against teams like inter? Honestly, I have to agree with Andy. We have two gems of creativity sitting wasting on the bench. They both could have started and had terrible games but had one moment of creative brilliance that could have made the difference tonight. I would have put my money on a younger more agile Giovinco than an old tireless nedved. Gio and Camo (like DP) can draw in defenders and get the foul for FKs. We didnt get one DP FK today. What other coach in the world would start marco over Camo in the biggest game of the year if both were fit to play? What coach subs DC on for DP? What coach rarely ever uses all 3 of his subs? what other coaches wait SO DAMN LONG to use subs?

Yeah sure Inter were stronger and more physical than us, so what that had nothing to do with how they scored the winning goal was it? We have players that can hit back but we have players starting like marco who let other teams bitch slap him. What is the point of wasting Giovinco or our budget for his salary if we arent going to use him? I think its bull to not play a great player because of his size. Zola was never big and he did well, there are loads of tiny players that do wonders but their coachs had the balls to play them.



38 games per season. 6 of these games are considered physical encounters where Gio will not feature in. He could play in all the other 32 games. Why sell him?

Don't compare Gio to Zola, Giovinco has a very weak figure, we saw what happened to him when he played against physical teams, he got crushed. Do you really want to see the guy play against the likes of Materazzi and Muntari, have a heart FFS.

Like I said, the guy needs to get buff. Seriously, he needs to add more weight to stand a chance. Maradona was a midget too but he had some matter, he was a lot heavier than Gio and that's why he didn;t have any trouble. No one could bully Maradona off the ball like they could Gio.
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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mass is not a pre-requisite to being a great player...look at Johan Cruyff for example...the guy was a bag of bones, but was one of the best players the world has ever seen...I'm not saying Seba is at that level, but finding faults in his game when he has not even been given a proper run in the team is just crazy
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Then what the hell is the point of keeping Giovinco at Juve if you all think he will get crushed against teams like inter? Honestly, I have to agree with Andy. We have two gems of creativity sitting wasting on the bench. They both could have started and had terrible games but had one moment of creative brilliance that could have made the difference tonight. I would have put my money on a younger more agile Giovinco than an old tireless nedved. Gio and Camo (like DP) can draw in defenders and get the foul for FKs. We didnt get one DP FK today. What other coach in the world would start marco over Camo in the biggest game of the year if both were fit to play? What coach subs DC on for DP? What coach rarely ever uses all 3 of his subs? what other coaches wait SO DAMN LONG to use subs?

Yeah sure Inter were stronger and more physical than us, so what that had nothing to do with how they scored the winning goal was it? We have players that can hit back but we have players starting like marco who let other teams bitch slap him. What is the point of wasting Giovinco or our budget for his salary if we arent going to use him? I think its bull to not play a great player because of his size. Zola was never big and he did well, there are loads of tiny players that do wonders but their coachs had the balls to play them.
Yeah, Zola did fine. So lets not fool ourselves here. Lets not pussy foot around. Seba either plays for us now or he should be offloaded. This is the reality of the situation.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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to Gio's defense...he would have ran circles around an awkward materazzi. So if its true that he is the future of Juve you will only play him in 32 games minus 6 because its too physical? Doesnt sound like much of a future for a player that will miss all the big games because he is too small...

If we arent going to play him then we may as well sell him to someone that will.

i have a heart, thats why i want him to play. not sit on the bench.

Its not just about getting buff because if thats your argument then neddy, DP, marchisio all need to get buff...its not like we have a team full of Chiellinis. Its not always about size, sure it would have helped us tonight but certainly not the deciding factor. How can you say lower level teams in the league are less physical than inter? Lower level teams are the ones that are usually fighting harder to not lose. If anthing, lower level teams are more physical because thats all they have going for them, the better teams in the league can depend on technique, creativity, etc...not strength.
 
Jun 13, 2007
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mass is not a pre-requisite to being a great player...look at Johan Cruyff for example...the guy was a bag of bones, but was one of the best players the world has ever seen...I'm not saying Seba is at that level, but finding faults in his game when he has not even been given a proper run in the team is just crazy
You seem to forget that we are talking about serie A, widely known as the most physical league in the world. If Gio was offloaded to a premiership team, he would become a legend over there. In serie A, he will get stepped on with his petite figure, defenders in Italy will seriously toy with Giovinco, if not push him off the ball then they will inflict a carrer ending tackle on him. It's that simple.


He doesn't have faults in his game, he should just muscle up. That's all I'm saying.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,488
Its not only annoying Ranieri is such a hack, but its even more annoying that so many are propogandized by his cowardly thinking of Giovinco being "too weak to play in games". Seriously, I can atleast get clueless coward, but so many being suckered by his BS excuse is just too much for me.
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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Its not only annoying Ranieri is such a hack, but its even more annoying that so many are propogandized by his cowardly thinking of Giovinco being "too weak to play in games". Seriously, I can atleast get clueless coward, but so many being suckered by his BS excuse is just too much for me.
Then do something about it.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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You seem to forget that we are talking about serie A, widely known as the most physical league in the world. If Gio was offloaded to a premiership team, he would become a legend over there. In serie A, he will get stepped on with his petite figure, defenders in Italy will seriously toy with Giovinco, if not push him off the ball then they will inflict a carrer ending tackle on him. It's that simple.


He doesn't have faults in his game, he should just muscle up. That's all I'm saying.
there are plenty of hard hitting defenders and some very disturbing challenges that come out of the EPL my friend...
 

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