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Amaurisimo

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Dec 8, 2007
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if you see my original post, i mention "sometimes long ball" in CR's defense as someone has to do that job as well, and i never said lets try to copy epl or anything..I never talked about his"tactical brilliance", u r the one who putting words in other people month .....however, me , like other like to express my opinion, and there is no negative comment ever who can move my mind in other direction..

U guys were the one who said we will finish 5-6th until month ago, and that Juve doesn't have any chance with CR reaching 3rd place..
Ur the one who were praising Tiago from start and hated idea of Sissoko..
For me even Molinaro was improving , considering everything else..

Just read few posts back and u will see , just in case what u forgot.
U r bit short sighted.

I love to see how you guys contradict yourself
 

Amaurisimo

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Dec 8, 2007
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in 2003 there were also 3 Italian teams in the semis
Exactly.

It's all cyclical depending on where the money is.

There were three Spanish teams in the Semi's a few years back too.
i just mentioned this year semis as it was related to this year Juve..
Of course it's all correct what you say, but also , im correct too..
EPL is by numbers best. Also i think england for me had better team than italians, but they had wrong coach ..
Im sure many will disagree, but hey , that is what i think..
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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if you see my original post, i mention "sometimes long ball" in CR's defense as someone has to do that job as well, and i never said lets try to copy epl or anything..I never talked about his"tactical brilliance", u r the one who putting words in other people month .....however, me , like other like to express my opinion, and there is no negative comment ever who can move my mind in other direction..

U guys were the one who said we will finish 5-6th until month ago, and that Juve doesn't have any chance with CR reaching 3rd place..
Ur the one who were praising Tiago from start and hated idea of Sissoko..
For me even Molinaro was improving , considering everything else..

Just read few posts back and u will see , just in case what u forgot.
U r bit short sighted.

I love to see how you guys contradict yourself
Well done to Ranieri. When i heard about his appointment as a coach I did not expect that he would survive more than december.

Anyway, he made some of us wrong and im happy.

Oh, and if someone still complain about long balls sometimes, we know that is EPL style and they are the best and strongest in europe so why not..
Only Arsenal plays "better" but they did not win anything in 3 years so who cares about it..
Get us 3-4 new players and lets win next year..
Everyone can read what you said. The fact you include the word "sometimes" after "long balls" doesn't make your statement any more sensical. Fact is, you stated EPL style is the best and strongest in Europe, which is totally untrue because the play is primarily "English football." You failed to make the distinction that, while playing in Europe, the usual four good sides that reside in the Premiership do NOT play English football or "Premiership football." Instead, you tried to argue that long balls are a successful tactic because there are three "English sides" in the Semifinals, which is a shortsighted argument. It reeks of ignorance of the game.

But the worst part about it is that the only reason why you spouted this nonsense is because of your admiration for Ranieri. If you're going to defend him, at least give us a plausible argument, not this usual nonsense dude. Everyone can see through your rhetoric.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Surely you don't mean the National Teams. Are you one of those who hail Gerrard, Lampard, Ferdinand and Assley Cole as the world's best in their positions?
Nah, he's talking about the English National Team and McClaren. And just like everyone else, he blames McClaren for England's never ending problems.
 

Amaurisimo

Senior Member
Dec 8, 2007
4,622
Everyone can read what you said. The fact you include the word "sometimes" after "long balls" doesn't make your statement any more sensical. Fact is, you stated EPL style is the best and strongest in Europe, which is totally untrue because the play is primarily "English football." You failed to make the distinction that, while playing in Europe, the usual four good sides that reside in the Premiership do NOT play English football or "Premiership football." Instead, you tried to argue that long balls are a successful tactic because there are three "English sides" in the Semifinals, which is a shortsighted argument. It reeks of ignorance of the game.

But the worst part about it is that the only reason why you spouted this nonsense is because of your admiration for Ranieri. If you're going to defend him, at least give us a plausible argument, not this usual nonsense dude. Everyone can see through your rhetoric.
You think that we always play long balls , and i say sometimes..its difference you know..



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You can say that, and everyone knows you are wrong..but my statement was not.

Surely you don't mean the National Teams. Are you one of those who hail Gerrard, Lampard, Ferdinand and Assley Cole as the world's best in their positions?
I did not say best at their positions, but as a team they were favorites and in my opinion better than italian team.

Nah, he's talking about the English National Team and McClaren. And just like everyone else, he blames McClaren for England's never ending problems.
not only mclaren but also ur favorite sven, who will get red card at the end of season..
 

vimo

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Apr 1, 2006
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the whole misunderstanding between you all is simple: 'English football' is not EPL-Football. People understand by 'english football' some hit and run rugby stlye football but EPL is just not that. The fact that EPL is selling so good makes them very different from that. I mean, in the top-4, how many actual english players are playing? not that much... EPL is pretty attractive to me. And it's very shortsighted to say that serie-a and la liga are on whole other level (technically). they may be slightly better, but EPL is becoming better and better (because of their financial advantage).
the fact that the english nt sucks has nothing to do with EPL, just as France NT was/is pretty good (okay, let's say 'above average') and the french league just is NOT. It has NOTHING to do with it
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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the whole misunderstanding between you all is simple: 'English football' is not EPL-Football. People understand by 'english football' some hit and run rugby stlye football but EPL is just not that.
Apart from the better clubs... what exactly is "Premiership" football then? You're telling me sides such as Derby play amazing football or something? Every side from Tottenham down play "English football," consisting of nothing more than muscle and force. That's a fact. That's all those sides can do. Some people may prefer that fast paced stuff, but it doesn't mean it's the best football on the planet and certainly doesn't mean it's successful. In fact, it's highly UNSUCCESSFUL.

Do not even try to argue they don't play English football in the Premiership. What else is it then? Fairytale football?

The fact that EPL is selling so good makes them very different from that. I mean, in the top-4, how many actual english players are playing?
the fact that the english nt sucks has nothing to do with EPL, just as France NT was/is pretty good (okay, let's say 'above average') and the french league just is NOT. It has NOTHING to do with it
You sort of contradict yourself here. First you make the point there are few English players playing at the top clubs, then go on to say that the English failures on the world front have nothing to due with the fact that the top clubs have only a couple Englishmen. That's a pretty strange fashion to argue some point, main.

:shifty:
 

BIG DADDY!!!

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Mar 12, 2004
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Ranieri: There's Room For Amauri

Juventus boss Claudio Ranieri has rejected theories that prospective signing Amauri is not really needed given the Bianconeri’s array of forwards.

Juve are the highest scorers in Serie A this season, with David Trezeguet and Alessandro Del Piero hitting 37 league goals between them so far, and Vincenzo Iaquinta also chipping in with eight off the bench.

Despite this, it is almost certain that Brazilian forward Amauri will be joining from Palermo in the summer, and some people have questioned where he is going to fit in.

"What do we lack? Experience,” said Ranieri.

“We need to construct a squad that is competitive on several fronts. We need 25 players in addition to the goalkeepers. We need two players for each position.

"Inter have many attackers.

“There will be room for everyone, and there will be more competition.

“Our players out on loan [such as Sebastian Giovinco, Claudio Marchisio and Paolo De Ceglie]? Their levels are excellent and I intend to include them next year too. I want a mix of youngsters and champions."

Earlier this week Ranieri admitted just how surprised he had been by Del Piero’s form this season, but there is another player who has surprised him even more.

"I would say Zanetti, he has surprised me a lot. He has shown great quality,” the Tinkerman concluded.

Gianni Wilson
 

vimo

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Apr 1, 2006
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You sort of contradict yourself here. First you make the point there are few English players playing at the top clubs, then go on to say that the English failures on the world front have nothing to due with the fact that the top clubs have only a couple Englishmen. That's a pretty strange fashion to argue some point, main.

:shifty:
No i don't. You didn't understand what i was trying to say. I honestly don't rate English NT very much. But that doesn't change the fact that english football could be good nonetheless. What i want to say is that NT and LEAGUE are two pair of shoes. Of course Derby or sth is not the prime of today's football, but honestly, if i had to bet on ManU - Inter (the two leaders of the respective leagues we are comparing) i wouldn't bet a dime on inter. And look at the CL-Finals, they must be doing SOMETHING to be successful. I don't say that english football is the best, but you can't be so shortsighted and say that serie-a is above everything. They all have their strengths and weaknesses, there is no 'better' league. As i said, speaking of MYSELF, i must say that very often i'm much more entertained by the EPL. If it's the better football? Don't know... but the better 'entertainment' for sure (for me).
And saying EPL is just force like you said is wrong. The times when Serie-A is only defence, Liga is only dancing and EPL is only beating up each other are OVER, there's no argument about that. The huge amount of foreigners (especially in england) make it a nice-to-see mix of tactics. In EVERY league
 

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