Claudio Ranieri (32 Viewers)

[Lion]

what do you mean by dick though? He's a dick towards others yes. But he's not Capello style dick in the sense that he is a dick towards his own players. The players that Mourinho coach like him. Not alot of players like Capello as their coach though.

 

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[Osman]

We had Mr Hat, he was the grande duke of dickery, so I hardly think the club would think even a second of not hiring Mourinho just because he can be a dislikeable figure for the opposition.

 

[Bjerknes]

I'd rather get some pussy than a dick.
Don't you?

But it's not what we get, dude. It's what other sides receive.

And anyway, saying no to Mourinho because we have Ranieri is just absurb. Again, Claudio is arrogant in his own retarded way in which he thinks he's the man yet most are laughing at him either on the inside or out.

Just stop this nonsense... any sane football fan would take Jose over Claudio. Anyone who doesn't agree is just not accepting facts.

 

[Dostoevsky]

 

[rounder]

Jose is a brilliant coach , but he would never succeed in a team like Juve .

 

[Bjerknes]

Jose is a brilliant coach , but he would never succeed in a team like Juve .

Why is that? You are not making any sense. And no, do not come here and say that Mourinho wouldn't succeed at Juventus because he needs to buy all the players in the world. That's just a regular misconception by Jose haters.

 

[rounder]

Why is that? You are not making any sense. And no, do not come here and say that Mourinho wouldn't succeed at Juventus because he needs to buy all the players in the world. That's just a regular misconception by Jose haters.

If you were to ask me whether I wanted Jose before the Calciopoli , I wouldn't even hesitate for a second .


After the Calciopoli , things have drastically changed .

1-We can't afford his wages .

2-You can kiss players like Giovinco , Marchisio etc.. goodbye . Our squad will no longer consist of young Italian talents .

3- He won't want to buy every player in the world but he would want to buy the players he had in Chelsea , I wouldn't mind that but again money is the issue here .

In short , the only thing that is stoppiong Juve form getting Mourrinho is the money , we have to accept it sadly .

Btw , I'm not a Mourinho hater . I think he's fantastic , I just don't think he would coach our current team , I'm just being realistic .

 

[Osman]

Jose is a brilliant coach , but he would never succeed in a team like Juve .

I like how people constantly invent illogical nonsense just because its of someone they dont like.

Mourinho is the epitomy of the calcio style coach. He is highly tactical and savvy coach, Juve is famous of everyone in calcio to have that type of coaches.

If you mention his persona as a reason I will smack you silly (ts a frigging myth that he allways just wants his former players). Thats no reason to say no to the prime type of WINNING coaches, and Juve being one of the reknowned teams to be all about winning and success, how the heck would he NOT succeed here?

 

[rounder]

I like how people constantly invent illogical nonsense just because its of someone they dont like.

Mourinho is the epitomy of the calcio style coach. He is highly tactical and savvy coach, Juve is famous of everyone in calcio to have that type of coaches.

If you mention his persona as a reason I will smack you silly (ts a frigging myth that he allways just wants his former players). Thats no reason to say no to the prime type of WINNING coaches, and Juve being one of the reknowned teams to be all about winning and success, how the heck would he NOT succeed here?

I'm not inventing illogical nonsense at all , in fact , I'm the only person that is being logical about this .


You say it's a myth he will recall his former players from Chelsea . You classify it as a myth why you moron ? No , it's not a myth , it's reality . Any football fan in the world knows that coaches like to recall some players they coached previously . It's either you're ignorant , or you just don't want to face the facts .

Ranieri coached Momo , he wanted him back . Same goes to Capello with Emerson , Canna , Zebina . Same goes to nearly every coach , and Jose is not an exception . He will want to recall players whom he had coached during his spell at Chelsea . Next time , when you want to call something a myth , have the common decency to say why .

I didn't say anything about his winning tactics because I appreciate his work . I have said that over three times all ready yet you seem to be too arrogant and stupid to acknowledge that . I said the only thing that is stopping his arrival is money , we can't afford him , and we can't afford to spend our entire transfer budget on players he would recall from Chelsea .

 

[tibike]

I like how people constantly invent illogical nonsense just because its of someone they dont like.

Mourinho is the epitomy of the calcio style coach. He is highly tactical and savvy coach, Juve is famous of everyone in calcio to have that type of coaches.

If you mention his persona as a reason I will smack you silly (ts a frigging myth that he allways just wants his former players). Thats no reason to say no to the prime type of WINNING coaches, and Juve being one of the reknowned teams to be all about winning and success, how the heck would he NOT succeed here?

I agree, Jose looks like a perfect coach for serie A. And I naively think he could be willing to sacrifice money for the challenge of bringing us back to glory.

 

[Osman]

He has ONCE signed a couple of Porto players who would have been leaving for Top teams anyway after their CL football. He is not someone who is cronically only can function with and must buy his favourites. He didnt buy Deco from Porto, bought Ferreira and Carvalho. Its very very exaggerated to constantly say his former players must come with him. Its been so exaggerated by the media to the point of myth.

And you said firstly (I responded to you before reading your second post) that Mourinho wouldnt SUIT Juve. Nothing about money issues. We are a rich team despite not being Chelski spenders, he would get enough funds with us. If we are after him, and he wants to come, it would mean they would be able to work together with the set funds. But your initial post said in quite final way he WONT succeed in Juve. Thats bogus claim.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

Jose looks perfect to any freaking top European league.

 

[rounder]

He will get ex-Chelsea players and that's not an outrageous claim . In fact , it's very normal and typical for a coach to do so , he will probably do it in Juve too if he gets the chance . That's not the problem , I wouldn't mind having Chelsea players over here , however , any player in Chelsea earns double or even triple the wages a Juve player earns . I don't know where you have been for the past year , but we aren't a very rich club , compared to Chelsea , we're piss poor .

I said he wouldn't succeed in Juve , meaning that things wouldn't work out because of financial issues . If he were to come , it would be a huge mess . I didn't say he doesn't fit in Juve , in fact , he probably fits better than any other coach in the world but as I mentioned 55 times earlier , that's not the problem .

We can't afford Mourinho , the sooner you accept that fact , the easier you sleep at night .

He bought Ferreira and Carvalho , exactly my point . What ? You expect him to buy the entire Porto squad . Nothing is exaggerated man , you just want it to be . He's too expensive , stop dreaming , we can't afford anyone better than Ranieri ( Maybe Lippi) .

On another note , I think you saw my second post , but just thought it would be better to reply to my second one , your reply came 1:20 mins after my second post , you couldn't have missed it. Sadly , like most people in the world , you just want to blabber on and bash someone before you even know what they have to say .

 

[Red]

I like how people constantly invent illogical nonsense just because its of someone they dont like.

I wish there were a few more people capable of looking at things with a wee bit of objectivity.

Love him, loath him or be somewhere in between (like myself) you have to be able to see that he is a great coach.

 

[Ahmed]

He will get ex-Chelsea players and that's not an outrageous claim . In fact , it's very normal and typical for a coach to do so , he will probably do it in Juve too if he gets the chance . That's not the problem , I wouldn't mind having Chelsea players over here , however , any player in Chelsea earns double or even triple the wages a Juve player earns . I don't know where you have been for the past year , but we aren't a very rich club , compared to Chelsea , we're piss poor .

I said he wouldn't succeed in Juve , meaning that things wouldn't work out because of financial issues . If he were to come , it would be a huge mess . I didn't say he doesn't fit in Juve , in fact , he probably fits better than any other coach in the world but as I mentioned 55 times earlier , that's not the problem .

We can't afford Mourinho , the sooner you accept that fact , the easier you sleep at night .

He bought Ferreira and Carvalho , exactly my point . What ? You expect him to buy the entire Porto squad . Nothing is exaggerated man , you just want it to be . He's too expensive , stop dreaming , we can't afford anyone better than Ranieri ( Maybe Lippi) .

On another note , I think you saw my second post , but just thought it would be better to reply to my second one , your reply came 1:20 mins after my second post , you couldn't have missed it. Sadly , like most people in the world , you just want to blabber on and bash someone before you even know what they have to say .

Well, saying Jose is unaffordable and saying that Jose will not succeed at Juve are 2 entirely different statements...so please decide which 1 you are going for

 

[rounder]

Well, saying Jose is unaffordable and saying that Jose will not succeed at Juve are 2 entirely different statements...so please decide which 1 you are going for

He won't succeed because if he does come to Juve , he will carry too much baggage with him , we can't afford that baggage and therefore , UNSUCCESSFULNESS is created . I swear it's not that difficult to understand . That's what I meant when I said he wouldn't succeed , too many problems will be created if he ever decides to join Juve .
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In case you still don't get it - It's NOT about his coaching abilities .

 

[Amaurisimo]

I would say what most of us thinks here including Juve revolution, Andy , red etc..

We all agree that Jose is great coach and everyone would love to have him
regardless of his big mouth.

We don't have enough money even to buy decent, players and we want Jose, i would think that players should come first?

I still don't think he would do better with todays Juve as it is, but with inter where funds are almost unlimited , he would keep winning for sure.

But also we would say bye bye to our young players and some old ones including DP.

Do we want that?

 

[Osman]

Well, saying Jose is unaffordable and saying that Jose will not succeed at Juve are 2 entirely different statements...so please decide which 1 you are going for

Exactly. Its the opposite end of spectrums in what it means. You didnt specify financial reasons, but saying he wont succeed here just like that implies he wont succeed no matter what or that he doesnt fit Juve, or is not good enough (these all reasons for others disagreed, and I said its illogical nonsense). Financial reasons are a whole different ball park.

And we were arent super rich, but rich enough. We have an average squad but still our overall salary budget is 100m annually. We can afford whatever salary Mourinho would want, and offer him decent budget to buy players. And its not like he most only have big buys, he can do well enough with less, he won CL with Porto afterall. One shouldnt limit or box Mourinho under a sugar daddy cathegory simply because he was spoilt in Chelsea. Too much speculation of how he is there, limits the great tactician he is to someone who a sugar daddy coach. He would ofcourse want and adequate treasure chest to build his squad, and even if we arent the richest, we wasted 60m on crap last season. We can muster up enough for him if it was necessary, now that we are better off then a recently promoted club.

This is all is unnecessary speculation at the end, because our board doesnt want a great coach, and seem to be content with a decent one. He will go to Inter or another top team elsewhere.

 

[Bjerknes]

1-We can't afford his wages

Yes we can. If we can afford 25 million for players who sit on our bench, we can afford his wages.

2-You can kiss players like Giovinco , Marchisio etc.. goodbye . Our squad will no longer consist of young Italian talents .

Mourinho uses his youth talents. Remember Carlos Alberto at Porto? I'm not sure how you've come to this conclusion as it doesn't make sense.

3- He won't want to buy every player in the world but he would want to buy the players he had in Chelsea , I wouldn't mind that but again money is the issue here .

He wouldn't necessarily want the same players he had at Chelsea, but he would want someone such as Carvalho. What's wrong with that player?

And even if we don't have the money for a Carvalho, that doesn't mean Mourinho wouldn't want to manage Juventus. So I'm not really buying into any of your arguments.

 

[Osman]

Ofcourse he has favourites, but as I said already, its highly exaggerated that just because he left Chelsea, he will want to, and accomplish to take with him his alot of his former players (he has favourite players outside his former players, he would sign Quaresma or want to, despite never coaching him). He likes them, but doesnt mean he would only want them again. He got a reputation to only buy previous players of his, when from Porto he only took two with him. One of them for obvious reason because he was great (Carvalho), and the other is was a useful utility player (Ferreira).

And indeed, its a just empty speculation to say Mourinho would kick out our youngsters. There is no basis for that (nor is there any for him having anything against italians). In Chelsea he personally scouted and screamed for Mikel and chelsea went through all of that shady crap with Man U just because of that hot young kid.