Claudio Marchisio (77 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

28year old hernanes isnt worth the investment, as lazio would ask over 20 mil for him.

If he was 20-22 and this good, it would be diffrent

So now 28yo IS old?

Strange, when it comes to strikers 29 isn't considered old.

I think Hernanes would grant us at least 4 quality seasons, which is enough.

 

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[Klin]

 

[Dostoevsky]

Well yeah, he's simply not good enough.

I remember when people wanted Vidal benched so Claudio could play. Good old days.

 

[Salvo]

Not good enough is a load of shit, our midfield 3 works very well together, all of them play a role and are the major reason why we are where we are.

 

[Lion]

11 new pages since I last checked last night?

$#@!, this is worse than the religion thread.

in a way beleiving in marchisio is a religion.

 

[icemaη]

Not good enough is a load of shit, our midfield 3 works very well together, all of them play a role and are the major reason why we are where we are.

Get with the program. If you are not great, you are shit.

 

[Zacheryah]

So now 28yo IS old?

Strange, when it comes to strikers 29 isn't considered old.

I think Hernanes would grant us at least 4 quality seasons, which is enough.

In spain perhaps. With our system, and his physique, i doubt he'd have 2 more excellent years.

Well yeah, he's simply not good enough.

I remember when people wanted Vidal benched so Claudio could play. Good old days.

That actually happened ?

 

[Salvatore]

Well yeah, he's simply not good enough.

I remember when people wanted Vidal benched so Claudio could play. Good old days.

When?

 

[icemaη]

Why would people ask Vidal to be benched so that Marchisio can play when Marchisio was starting anyways? He did not start only three games in the 11/12 season and came off the bench in one of those. So the 'good old days' is a whole bunch of crap.

 

[Red]

Vidal is far more superior in both role he plays, but especially when it comes to defending. You can see him being aggressive and dominating while that's not even the case from Marchisio.

Vidal has certainly gone up a level or two this season, while Marchisio is much the same player he was last season.

I doubt anyone would dipute that Vidal is the better ball-winner - but, then again, there is barely a better ball-winner in the world than Vidal just now - so Vidal being great doesn't mean Marchisio isn't good.

Vidal is also the player in the midfield really capable of stepping up and pressing in order to raise the tempo of the whole team.

However, to maintain the balance of a midfield, I would probably only have one Vidal in there. I don't want all my midfielder haring around and flying into tackles, because you are likely to be left exposed with two such players both stepping forward to press and being taken out of the game now and again.

I think there is very little between the two of them with regards to attacking. Both players are very productive when given the freedom to regularly get forward. I think Vidal is perhaps slightly overrated in this regard in comparison to Marchisio because of Vidal taking penalties.

Anyway, the bottom line is that Juve's midfield is excellent.

I look forward to seeing what they can do with a higher calibre of forward playing in front of them next season, which should enable them to look even better.

 

[Zacheryah]

The best thing about the MVP midfield, is the synergy when not in possession.

Marchisio and pirlo closing the passing and running routes, whilst vidal chases down the opponents efficiently.

Its just funny how people downrate marchisio, cause he isnt attacking all the time

 

[Furino]

The best thing about the MVP midfield, is the synergy when not in possession.

Marchisio and pirlo closing the passing and running routes, whilst vidal chases down the opponents efficiently.

Its just funny how people downrate marchisio, cause he isnt attacking all the time

But no, people want Hernanes long range shoots just because they look cool.

 

[Hydde]

Its just funny how people downrate marchisio, cause he isnt attacking all the time

I dont have a problem with him not attacking to be sincere. What i ask is much more basic.
I just want him to be consistent.

 

[Fr3sh]

But no, people want Hernanes long range shoots just because they look cool.

No, I just think Marchisio in a Monaco jersey, and Juventus gaining 35million Euros looks cool.

 

[Hydde]

I don't know why, suddenly I imagined a midfield of vidal,pirlo,davids.

Would have been cool

 

[Dostoevsky]

In spain perhaps. With our system, and his physique, i doubt he'd have 2 more excellent years.

That actually happened ?

Serie A is actually slower than Spain, so that doesn't make any sense.

If Pirlo can do it, so can Hernanes.

When?

Why would people ask Vidal to be benched so that Marchisio can play when Marchisio was starting anyways? He did not start only three games in the 11/12 season and came off the bench in one of those. So the 'good old days' is a whole bunch of crap.

It's not bullshit. When we signed Vidal everyone wanted him benched when we argued about the two.

Ever since the first minutes played it was obvious he's light years ahead of Marchisio.

Vidal has certainly gone up a level or two this season, while Marchisio is much the same player he was last season.

I doubt anyone would dipute that Vidal is the better ball-winner - but, then again, there is barely a better ball-winner in the world than Vidal just now - so Vidal being great doesn't mean Marchisio isn't good.

Vidal is also the player in the midfield really capable of stepping up and pressing in order to raise the tempo of the whole team.

However, to maintain the balance of a midfield, I would probably only have one Vidal in there. I don't want all my midfielder haring around and flying into tackles, because you are likely to be left exposed with two such players both stepping forward to press and being taken out of the game now and again.

I think there is very little between the two of them with regards to attacking. Both players are very productive when given the freedom to regularly get forward. I think Vidal is perhaps slightly overrated in this regard in comparison to Marchisio because of Vidal taking penalties.

Anyway, the bottom line is that Juve's midfield is excellent.

I look forward to seeing what they can do with a higher calibre of forward playing in front of them next season, which should enable them to look even better.

I actually agree our midfield is excellent. But I'm only pointing out that Marchisio is the weakest link out there and how we can be even stronger in that department. People don't trust Pogba because he's young, but offers no less than Claudio.

I'm not even mentioning Vidal's goals at this point. It's his aggression and determination as he's capable of carrying the whole team. There's no need to have 3 bullies in midfield, but having Pogba - Pirlo - Vidal would be more beneficial. Saying stuff like 'Pogba is gonna be sold sooner or later while Marchisio is a true bianconero' makes no sense whatsoever. It's about having more quality at this very moment. We'd really be hurt if we sell Vidal, he's an instrumental player without a doubt. Replacing Marchisio would be easy, even without buying new players, so I would easily sell him if that can bring us a good striker.

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The best thing about the MVP midfield, is the synergy when not in possession.

Marchisio and pirlo closing the passing and running routes, whilst vidal chases down the opponents efficiently.

Its just funny how people downrate marchisio, cause he isnt attacking all the time

People downrate Marchisio because he tends to disappear most of the time. You don't even notice him.

It has nothing to do with him attacking.

 

[Fr3sh]

I don't know why, suddenly I imagined a midfield of vidal,yahya toure,davids.

Would have been cool

 

[Red]

I actually agree our midfield is excellent. But I'm only pointing out that Marchisio is the weakest link out there and how we can be even stronger in that department. People don't trust Pogba because he's young, but offers no less than Claudio.

I'm not even mentioning Vidal's goals at this point. It's his aggression and determination as he's capable of carrying the whole team. There's no need to have 3 bullies in midfield, but having Pogba - Pirlo - Vidal would be more beneficial. Saying stuff like 'Pogba is gonna be sold sooner or later while Marchisio is a true bianconero' makes no sense whatsoever. It's about having more quality at this very moment. We'd really be hurt if we sell Vidal, he's an instrumental player without a doubt. Replacing Marchisio would be easy, even without buying new players, so I would easily sell him if that can bring us a good striker.

I don't think I liked any of Pogba's performances when he tried to play in Marchisio's spot in the midfield. All his good games came when playing in place of Pirlo or Vidal - mostly Vidal. So I would argue that Pogba, when placed in Marchisio's role, does offer less than Marchisio. In the midst of people arguing about Marchisio leaving and Pogba taking his spot I said I'd actually be looking to Asamoah to take Marchisio's role and use the Marchisio cash to get a left wing-back and put the spare cash towards a forward.

I don't know that I would dismiss the 'Pogba will leave' argument entirely, nor would I accept it is about quality right now. I would be looking at things over a slightly longer period (2-3 years, probably) and if I didn't think Pogba would stay for at least two more seasons, I would certainly be factoring that into my decision making.

I also wouldn't dismiss the 'true biaconero' thing. It wouldn't be a decisive factor, but it is still a factor worth considering. I know that I generally have a hell of a lot more of an attachment to Aberdeen players from the city than whatever player who is just passing through during his career and is only at the club because it happened to be the best offer at the time. It's important for fans at the game to have someone on the pitch they can really identify with, and that is more likely to come from a local player.

 

[Nicholas]

Pogba is too lazy to play in Marchisio's position, his tracking of his marker and awareness leave alot to be desired

 

[Afghan_juventus]

Serie A is actually slower than Spain, so that doesn't make any sense.

If Pirlo can do it, so can Hernanes.





It's not bull$#@!. When we signed Vidal everyone wanted him benched when we argued about the two.

Ever since the first minutes played it was obvious he's light years ahead of Marchisio.



I actually agree our midfield is excellent. But I'm only pointing out that Marchisio is the weakest link out there and how we can be even stronger in that department. People don't trust Pogba because he's young, but offers no less than Claudio.

I'm not even mentioning Vidal's goals at this point. It's his aggression and determination as he's capable of carrying the whole team. There's no need to have 3 bullies in midfield, but having Pogba - Pirlo - Vidal would be more beneficial. Saying stuff like 'Pogba is gonna be sold sooner or later while Marchisio is a true bianconero' makes no sense whatsoever. It's about having more quality at this very moment. We'd really be hurt if we sell Vidal, he's an instrumental player without a doubt. Replacing Marchisio would be easy, even without buying new players, so I would easily sell him if that can bring us a good striker.

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People downrate Marchisio because he tends to disappear most of the time. You don't even notice him.

It has nothing to do with him attacking.

Last season Marchisio was better.