Even if it's true I would have accepted a bid above 65-70+ for him. Not that he might be worth that much but he IS Juve. Del Piero retiring and at the same time Marchisio is blooming...
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I know the horse is dead and all, but I think I need to respond anyway since this issue goes beyond just Marchisio. You claim that there are fans who are too biased to be totally objective about that player's performances. Absolutely true in both directions and goes for all of our players.
The critics of Marchisio were in majority, or at least most vocal. Do not turn them into victims who were hated by the Marchisio-loving mob. That's just laughable. I can only speak for myself and a few others, which will put me into the "I told you so"-category, but let me tell you the difference between blindly siding with a player and recognizing his qualities.
When I see someone failing with passes that would have been perfect, had only a team mate bothered to make the run, the passing player can still rise in my esteem.
When I see someone making intelligent runs consistently which open up space for others or are completely ignored by team mates when they shouldn't be, those runs will still affect how I will rate the player.
When a defensive player makes a brilliant tackle to recover the ball, his tackle is not necessarily what stopped the attack. The defensive team mates nearby can be just as credited for forcing the attacking player to make the decision which leads to the attack coming to a halt.
And lastly, when someone attempts dribbles and fails, loses the ball, hoofs it to the forwards, doesn't block a cross or for whatever reason doesn't seem to be doing well, there may be a reason for him doing what he does that makes it justified and therefore simply cannot be used against him.
This is the reason that an invisible Claudio Marchisio, a clumsy Simone Pepe or a ball-hogging Del Piero can receive high ratings from me or anyone else in a match where the majority believes the opposite. It's not a case of fanboyism. (I am merely superior to you at understanding football).
The critics of Marchisio were in majority, or at least most vocal. Do not turn them into victims who were hated by the Marchisio-loving mob. That's just laughable. I can only speak for myself and a few others, which will put me into the "I told you so"-category, but let me tell you the difference between blindly siding with a player and recognizing his qualities.
When I see someone failing with passes that would have been perfect, had only a team mate bothered to make the run, the passing player can still rise in my esteem.
When I see someone making intelligent runs consistently which open up space for others or are completely ignored by team mates when they shouldn't be, those runs will still affect how I will rate the player.
When a defensive player makes a brilliant tackle to recover the ball, his tackle is not necessarily what stopped the attack. The defensive team mates nearby can be just as credited for forcing the attacking player to make the decision which leads to the attack coming to a halt.
And lastly, when someone attempts dribbles and fails, loses the ball, hoofs it to the forwards, doesn't block a cross or for whatever reason doesn't seem to be doing well, there may be a reason for him doing what he does that makes it justified and therefore simply cannot be used against him.
This is the reason that an invisible Claudio Marchisio, a clumsy Simone Pepe or a ball-hogging Del Piero can receive high ratings from me or anyone else in a match where the majority believes the opposite. It's not a case of fanboyism. (I am merely superior to you at understanding football).
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don't be such an arsehole. of course I know Marchi has had his overzealous critics, and neither am I defending them, I just find it irritating some fanboys are gloating as if it was wrong for anyone to have ever criticized marchisio AT ALL. so if YOU think he didn't deserve ANY amount of reasonable criticism from some of us for the past two seasons that's your opinion, not your superiority in understanding football coz I sure as hell know I'm not alone in thinking he deserved some of them. don't be such a cocky asshole trying to parade your 'superiority' in my face, in the end we are all Juve fans who want the best for the team.
Well said.
Plus, I don't know why people have to categorize it and capsulize this whole Marchisio thing into 2 groups.
It's either you're a fanboy or a hater?
What about those who saw something in him, believed in him, but didn't go over the top with severe criticism and name-calling nor did they over praise him for the good work he's doing now.
This thread has been a place for personal wins and arguments and it's getting silly.
Plus, I don't know why people have to categorize it and capsulize this whole Marchisio thing into 2 groups.
It's either you're a fanboy or a hater?
What about those who saw something in him, believed in him, but didn't go over the top with severe criticism and name-calling nor did they over praise him for the good work he's doing now.
This thread has been a place for personal wins and arguments and it's getting silly.