denco said:
Ok first off what happened to this site? Asi could not get into it for a while.
Hmm where to start, i think the best is to start with the midfield. I am the only one who thinks there is no chemistry at all between Vieira and Emerson? I mean I have been told and its been said by Capello that they are the best midfield pairing in the world and yet I am yet to see them dominate any team that we have faced. They are meant to be great defensive mfs but Werger Bremen managed to cut thru us like knife thru butter. You do not necessarily need to have to greats , if they do not gel then they do not gel, they are nothing like the Davids-Deshamps-zz combo at all. In fact they are quite pathetic together compared to their reputations. It seems when 1 is in form the other is poor and it happens way too often. I mean one of the best patrnerships I have seen is Vieira and Petit cos they gelled. Cole and Yorke are one of the best ever partnerships in attack i have seen cos they gelled, individually they are not as good as way too many strikers but together they were up there with any combo
Now to Blasi, i was quite gobsmacked to read someone call him class and becasue of that, i cannot read that person's post anymore. I mean everytime i see him either warming up or in the starting 11 my enthusiasm just goes down and i kinda lose interest in the game cos he is far away the worst player in Juve .
I think the problem lies in midfield too, wether you call it Vieira and Emerson connection,or the system. But it is crystal clear that we don't dominate in midfield, we only use them for defensive purposes, because when we atack it starts from defense to atack directly (air/long passes), where Zlatan mostly collects the ball.
another thing to blame is the luck that back defender like Zebina Zambrotta and birindelli are not available. I think about Blasi exactly the same way, and same way for chiellini too. when I see them in the starting line up, I don't trust the defense..
Thuram takes too many chances and i blame him for the first and i think second goal, the first he and Blasi make complete fools of themselves and allow the player to backheel between them and the second he brings the ball forward, had the chance to release, delays and loses the ball , it goes to throwing and i think they win corner from there and score.
I think Thuram was better than any defenders against Bremen, but the most I was dissapointed was Balzaretti, but I think he is much better than Blasi and Chiellini overall.
Snoop I am extremely disappointed to read you say thatZlatan deserved to finish the game, you want him to completely ruin the team's chances cos of what? He was awful by his low standards this season, lack of confidence and indecisiveness.
How can you say Trez should have been subbed, the chances and half chances he got, he made great use of them unilke zlatan who was passing to people that were not there or completely missing the target with only keeper to beat.
I never said Trezeguet should be subbed,I said Zlatan should play longer, ignoring his first half performance, his second half performance was promising and like I said in my post,he could play along Trezeguet and DP against a weak defense like Bremen's.
Nedved apart from his goal was hopeless and really he is not helping anyone playing on the wings
I thought so too, maybe he was the one to be subbed by DP.
As for Capello, well, Bremen might not put us out but I cannot see us winning Cl with him in charge
Dp is slow and who knows might not be able to play 90 minutes but at this point in time he is 10 times what Zlatan is to this team, atl least he contributes positively, I mean Zlatan has scored 3 times in a row, so should be on a high.
What exactly is Zalayeta's use on the wing? This is not a Spanish team thatcan be bullied at the back so what use was he?
Camoranesi was hopeless
Thuram should be moved to right back and after the Inter game where i though Chiallini was superb, he seems to be a very good centre back if watching and observing things are your thing as he seems to know how to attack headers and make clearances in that area and the fact that his crossings are not all that good makes me know more that he is indeed a centre back
Balzaretti had a horrible game and kept getting caught out of position but unlike Blasi, he is redeemable.
We cannot do much about Emerson and Vieira, personally id drop 1 for Nedved.
Zlatan should be given a wake up call or he will cost us dear
Capello , if you dont win Cl, please go
I don't know if we can win the CL or not, but we should see our opponets first right? to say something like that
but for Bremen, we definitley need to dominate in midfield. we need to play with 5 midfielder, they are strong in counter atacks and hence the midfield. we should close them from midfield and not wait them come to our defending area and start to defend there.
so either 4-5-1 or 3-5-2
buffon
zebina - thuram - cannavaro -zambrotta
camoranesi - emerson - vieira
mutu ---------------------------------- DP/zlatan
Trezeguet
or 3-5-2
buffon
thuram - cannavaro - kovac
camoranesi ---------------------- zambrotta
Emerson Vieira
mutu/DP
Trezeguet --------------------- Zlatan
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