[CL] Juventus - Liverpool (5 Viewers)
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Anyhow, back to the game.
Capello SHOULD fvckin know that the 4-4-2 aint working FFS, am not blaming Nedved here, but he should FIND another solution and i guess 4-3-3 is the best, It's Capello's fvckin problem where to put Nedved with the 4-3-3, we shouldn't play 4-4-2 and risk our game, just because Capello can't Bench Nedved. Am not sayin he should be benched, but he should find a position for Nedved in the 4-3-3 or 3-4-3, the 4-4-2 doesn't work, this guy can't understand it. He's either Stupid or Stupid. we played many matches with this stupid Formation and we either Lost or it ended 0-0 or 1-1....
So Mr Capello if you wanna win this match, try to use your brain PLEASE.
Forza Juve!
Capello SHOULD fvckin know that the 4-4-2 aint working FFS, am not blaming Nedved here, but he should FIND another solution and i guess 4-3-3 is the best, It's Capello's fvckin problem where to put Nedved with the 4-3-3, we shouldn't play 4-4-2 and risk our game, just because Capello can't Bench Nedved. Am not sayin he should be benched, but he should find a position for Nedved in the 4-3-3 or 3-4-3, the 4-4-2 doesn't work, this guy can't understand it. He's either Stupid or Stupid. we played many matches with this stupid Formation and we either Lost or it ended 0-0 or 1-1....
So Mr Capello if you wanna win this match, try to use your brain PLEASE.
Forza Juve!
He is badly short of fitness and would be a massive selection by Rafa Benitez. Also Alonso and Gerrard has not worked this season. Ok Gerrard may play further forward but I can't see him causing problems as he admitted he doesn't relish playing there. Seeing them lose another away match in the EPL it is hard to see how Juventus had so many problems against them in the 1st leg. Le Tallec was useless in Manchester and I can't see anything other than a comprehensive Juventus win. At least a 2-goal victory and maybe done and dusted before HT.
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
In the second half of the first leg Capello made one important tactical switch: he decided to move Nedved into a central, more forward role. With Nedved playing behind the strikers it caused Liverpool problems because Gerrard had to track back and pick up Pavel in his more forward role. With Gerrard having to come back to defend Liverpool must concede their top half of the midfield, thus cutting back on their forward pressure and attack.
I think the second half of play in Liverpool should be the standard by Capello in the return leg. English sides are not used to attacks that have depth and mobile midfielders playing right behind the strikers, causing their defense to be stretched with the lateral runs of the attacking midfielder. That's why Nedved MUST be given a free role to attack, just like in the second half of play.
Buffon
Thuram - Montero - Cannavaro
Camoranesi - Emerson - Tacchinardi - Zambrotta
Nedved
Ibrahimovic - Del Piero
Don't be alarmed, I meant to play Montero. Since we imbecilicly gave away Tudor in January we lost a defender who is strong in the air, and the only defender who we have that is remotely strong in the air is Montero, unfortunately. He's stronger than Birindelli and Pessotto in this aspect, so I think we have to play him.
In the second half of the first leg Capello made one important tactical switch: he decided to move Nedved into a central, more forward role. With Nedved playing behind the strikers it caused Liverpool problems because Gerrard had to track back and pick up Pavel in his more forward role. With Gerrard having to come back to defend Liverpool must concede their top half of the midfield, thus cutting back on their forward pressure and attack.
I think the second half of play in Liverpool should be the standard by Capello in the return leg. English sides are not used to attacks that have depth and mobile midfielders playing right behind the strikers, causing their defense to be stretched with the lateral runs of the attacking midfielder. That's why Nedved MUST be given a free role to attack, just like in the second half of play.
Buffon
Thuram - Montero - Cannavaro
Camoranesi - Emerson - Tacchinardi - Zambrotta
Nedved
Ibrahimovic - Del Piero
Don't be alarmed, I meant to play Montero. Since we imbecilicly gave away Tudor in January we lost a defender who is strong in the air, and the only defender who we have that is remotely strong in the air is Montero, unfortunately. He's stronger than Birindelli and Pessotto in this aspect, so I think we have to play him.
Buffon
Birindelli Thuram Cannavaro Zambrotta
Camoranesi Emerson Pessotto
Nedved
Ibrahimovic Del Piero
I'm not being over confident. I just mentioned that even with us not being a strong team, 3 at the back would be foolish. In fact, i feel that Juve are favourites simply because Liverpool can play like they did against Man City very often away from home.
Don't get me wrong, i would surprised if we managed to get thru but i beleive it is possible.
Xabi Gerrard partnership hasn't worked when the two play in centre midfield because both always try and find the killer 30 yard balls too often but when Gerrard plays advanced as a 2nd forward, he curbs that part of his game and Alonso is the one that plays the long pass.
Just try and give us a little respect, because you can't batter us with a 3-4-3
BTW, is Zalayeta likely to feature?
Don't get me wrong, i would surprised if we managed to get thru but i beleive it is possible.
Xabi Gerrard partnership hasn't worked when the two play in centre midfield because both always try and find the killer 30 yard balls too often but when Gerrard plays advanced as a 2nd forward, he curbs that part of his game and Alonso is the one that plays the long pass.
Just try and give us a little respect, because you can't batter us with a 3-4-3
BTW, is Zalayeta likely to feature?
I saw the game against City and I tell you, Liverpool will get hammered if they play like that in Turin. However, I've seen quite a few Pool games this season so I haven't only seen them disappoint. I've seen them play some brilliant football so I agree with you, a back three would be very risky.
About Xabi, how fit is he? If he plays against us on Wednesday it'll be the first time he's stepped on the field in quite a while so his form might not be what it was prior to his injury. As a Juve fan I hope he isn't fit because he's an absolutely splendid passer of the football. He's actually one of my favourite players and on his day he can open up the best of defences as I'm sure you know.
As for Zalayeta; I doubt he'll start but he could be very useful off the bench. His power and directness is an asset IMO and he has improved a lot over the last six months. Did you happen to see his backheel to Zlatan against Fiorentina yesterday?
About Xabi, how fit is he? If he plays against us on Wednesday it'll be the first time he's stepped on the field in quite a while so his form might not be what it was prior to his injury. As a Juve fan I hope he isn't fit because he's an absolutely splendid passer of the football. He's actually one of my favourite players and on his day he can open up the best of defences as I'm sure you know.
As for Zalayeta; I doubt he'll start but he could be very useful off the bench. His power and directness is an asset IMO and he has improved a lot over the last six months. Did you happen to see his backheel to Zlatan against Fiorentina yesterday?
I was just kidding man....Am really happy for your team that they managed to make it till here, it's been long time eh?...Anyhow I fear your Gerrard and Garcia, they simply rock.
About the respect thing, it's not about Respect, it's about we have to win the game, and to win these kind of matches you need to take some risks, so if we play with 3 defenders doesn't mean we disrespect Pool. We already saw that your team is capable of alot of things.
....Am really happy for your team that they managed to make it till here, it's been long time eh?...Anyhow I fear your Gerrard and Garcia, they simply rock.About the respect thing, it's not about Respect, it's about we have to win the game, and to win these kind of matches you need to take some risks, so if we play with 3 defenders doesn't mean we disrespect Pool. We already saw that your team is capable of alot of things.
Don't worry about it, Azzurri, who am i to demand respect, most of my friends simply turn and say, "who are you to demand respect?" - they expect me to reply with 4 european cups and 18 league titles, but that's in the past i guess :frown:
BUT we will give you a game on wednesday night and i hope what's in the headlines the day after are what went on in the 90 minutes on the pitch and not OFF it!
BUT we will give you a game on wednesday night and i hope what's in the headlines the day after are what went on in the 90 minutes on the pitch and not OFF it!
Pesso and Biri aren't nearly as quick as they were a couple of years ago and they can't match Baros, Riise, Garcia or Gerrard in a foot race. I know that Zambrotta is going to go forward and he could switch positions with Pessotto every now and again, but I want him at the back. We need someone that can stay with Baros.
++ [ originally posted by LFC fan ] ++
Don't worry about it, Azzurri, who am i to demand respect, most of my friends simply turn and say, "who are you to demand respect?" - they expect me to reply with 4 european cups and 18 league titles, but that's in the past i guess :frown:
BUT we will give you a game on wednesday night and i hope what's in the headlines the day after are what went on in the 90 minutes on the pitch and not OFF it!
Don't worry about it, Azzurri, who am i to demand respect, most of my friends simply turn and say, "who are you to demand respect?" - they expect me to reply with 4 european cups and 18 league titles, but that's in the past i guess :frown:
BUT we will give you a game on wednesday night and i hope what's in the headlines the day after are what went on in the 90 minutes on the pitch and not OFF it!
Let me give you some advice, Juve Don't worry about Riise he will be defending most of the game. Won't make a difference who is at left back because Garcia will go missing from the right wing half of the game either as a centre mid or even left mid! Gerrard is the one you should worry about. Last match he played as one of 2 defensive mids but on weds "IF" Xabi starts, he will have the free role, and his pace is soemthing to worry about rather than Baros' cos Baros can go missing sometimes.
Don't worry about Riise he will be defending most of the game. Won't make a difference who is at left back because Garcia will go missing from the right wing half of the game either as a centre mid or even left mid! Gerrard is the one you should worry about. Last match he played as one of 2 defensive mids but on weds "IF" Xabi starts, he will have the free role, and his pace is soemthing to worry about rather than Baros' cos Baros can go missing sometimes.
++ [ originally posted by LFC fan ] ++
Don't worry about it, Azzurri, who am i to demand respect, most of my friends simply turn and say, "who are you to demand respect?" - they expect me to reply with 4 european cups and 18 league titles, but that's in the past i guess :frown:
BUT we will give you a game on wednesday night and i hope what's in the headlines the day after are what went on in the 90 minutes on the pitch and not OFF it!
Don't worry about it, Azzurri, who am i to demand respect, most of my friends simply turn and say, "who are you to demand respect?" - they expect me to reply with 4 european cups and 18 league titles, but that's in the past i guess :frown:
BUT we will give you a game on wednesday night and i hope what's in the headlines the day after are what went on in the 90 minutes on the pitch and not OFF it!
Hope everything is gonna be fine off the pitch, and Forza Juve
++ [ originally posted by LFC fan ] ++
Let me give you some advice, Juve Don't worry about Riise he will be defending most of the game. Won't make a difference who is at left back because Garcia will go missing from the right wing half of the game either as a centre mid or even left mid! Gerrard is the one you should worry about. Last match he played as one of 2 defensive mids but on weds "IF" Xabi starts, he will have the free role, and his pace is soemthing to worry about rather than Baros' cos Baros can go missing sometimes.
Let me give you some advice, Juve
Don't worry about Riise he will be defending most of the game. Won't make a difference who is at left back because Garcia will go missing from the right wing half of the game either as a centre mid or even left mid! Gerrard is the one you should worry about. Last match he played as one of 2 defensive mids but on weds "IF" Xabi starts, he will have the free role, and his pace is soemthing to worry about rather than Baros' cos Baros can go missing sometimes.