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Shixian

Senior Member
Sep 4, 2005
579
Juv 2-1 Bay: Trez brace brings down Bayern

David Trezeguet bagged a brace to beat Bayern Munich after another Christian Abbiati error almost proved costly again, but Zlatan Ibrahimovic saw red.

The Bianconeri found themselves under pressure for the first time this season, having lost 2-1 in Munich followed by Saturday's 3-1 Serie A defeat to Milan. Patrick Vieira returned from injury, albeit not 100 per cent fit, while Jonathan Zebina, Gigi Buffon and Alessandro Birindelli remained sidelined.

Christian Abbiati was back in goal after a bout of tonsillitis and his howler in the first leg in Germany, but Fabio Capello gambled with an all-new tactical set-up. A three-man defence allowed Alessandro Del Piero to play behind front two Zlatan Ibrahimovic and David Trezeguet. Robert Kovac faced the club he left in the summer.

Juve nearly scored an own goal after four minutes, as Abbiati had to fly in order to tip Trezeguet's wayward backward header out from under the crossbar.

He almost netted at the other end moments later, a fierce strike stunging the palms of Oliver Kahn, but the Frenchman probably should've passed to the unmarked Del Piero in a better scoring position.

Bayern really should've taken the lead when Emerson mis-timed his challenge and let Roy Makaay free just inside the area, but he drilled his angled drive inches past the upright with Abbiati left motionless.

Juve made possibly an even worse miss on 15 minutes. Gianluca Zambrotta out-sprinted two defenders down the right flank and managed to put in a perfect cross for the totally unmarked Trezeguet, but he somehow blazed well wide of the near post from seven yards.

Claudio Pizarro had timid penalty appeals waved away for a nudge from Lilian Thuram, then at the other end Zambrotta wanted a spot-kick for a scuffle with Ze Roberto.

Kahn smothered an Ibrahimovic attempt from close range after a corner kick came to the back post, but the Swede was visibly on poor form and was booked for a petulant kick at Ismael after the ball had already gone.

Surprisingly, Capello chose to take off Del Piero for Pavel Nedved at half-time. Bayern had a great chance to take the lead immediately after the restart, but Michael Ballack missed his volley and Makaay's follow-up was charged down by Abbiati and a defender.

Kahn smothered a timid Ibrahimovic angled drive from the edge of the box, then Nedved had penalty appeals when his header was charged down by Ismael's arm, then Willy Sagnol blocked an Ibrahimovic follow-up.

Mauro German Camoranesi replaced ex-Bayern Munich man Kovac, moving Giorgio Chiellini and Zambrotta back for a 4-4-2 system.

Juventus eventually broke the deadlock through sheer persistence. Nedved appeared to be brought down just inside the area as he ran on to Ibrahimovic's pass, but before the referee could even consider a penalty appeal, Trezeguet had slammed in the loose ball from 10 yards.

However, Bayern drew level soon after with another mistake from Abbiati, who had given away the first goal in Munich. Sebastian Deisler's free kick from 30 metres went past everyone and bounced just in front of Abbiati.

Capello's third substitution was a curious one, as Adrian Mutu replaced Camoranesi, whose match lasted for just 18 minutes. The Italian international did not appear to be injured and tellingly went off the field from the opposite end, walking all the way around the pitch.

Patrick Vieira nodded a free kick off target, but it was Trezeguet who restored the Bianconeri's lead five minutes from time with a wonderful finish. The Frenchman chested down Vieira's chipped pass and struck a low volley into the far corner of the net for his 106th goal in a Juve jersey - beating the tally of 105 set by John Charles.

It still wasn't over, as Bastian Schweinsteiger's screamer from the edge of the box shaved the near post.

Ibrahimovic had already been booked for kicking out at an opponent earlier on and in the final minute received his second yellow card for a similar incident.

There was a scuffle in stoppages when Chiellini went down on the edge of the box and Bayern carried on playing, but the final whistle was blown and Juve took the victory.


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Juventus: Abbiati; Thuram, Kovac (Camoranesi 58) (Mutu 76), Cannavaro; Zambrotta, Emerson, Vieira, Chiellini; Del Piero; Ibrahimovic, Trezeguet

Bayern Munich: Kahn; Sagnol, Lucio, Ismael, Schweinsteiger; Deisler, Demichelis (Scholl 86), Zè Roberto, Ballack; Makaay (Guerrero 88), Pizarro

Ref: Michel (Slk)

Sent off: Ibrahimovic 89 (J)



Did Abbiati commit so many errors? Did not have the chance to see the game..
 

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Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
Trez showed today why he is getting paid the big bucks......I think this game is the best we've seen of him in awhile. His finishing was perfect !!

Zlatan showed today why I've been saying he's a liability since he got here. A useless second yellow for retaliation, after the ref had already called the foul against the Bayern player....Zlatan is too much of a hot-head, and it will cost us in an important game, eventually

I didnt think he played badly today...he has great ball control, and thats about it

As for CRAP, I was pleasantly surprised he change formation (think he reads our forum ???:D), but once we got the lead, he reverts back to the 4-4-2...and then get scored on.

The substitutions were also puzzling, what was CRAP thinking ?? Take off DP, when an out of form Zlatan has done little.....put Camo in for 18 minutes, then take him out (he wasnt injured).

Chellini still worries me, but hopefully he will get better

Abbiati was purely to blame for the goal...lets hope Gigi gets back real soon

Nedved had his wakeup call after finally being benched...and did good in the second half

It also seemed to me that Bayern came into this game to play for the 0-0 draw, which would have suited them fine. Then, after we scored, Bayern did turn it up a few notches, and make a good game of it

My question is....

what plan will CRAP have for next game ????:confused:
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
so the ratings dance:

Abbiati 5 he wasnt really tested,he conceded one of the few goals on target

Zambro 7 brilliant game,he was the man we all know and love

Kovac 6.5 solid and helped a few times our play's development

Canna 6.5 a little bit nervous,did some fould normally doesnt but good overall

Thuram 6 a fighter at times but not all the time

Chiellini 6.5 one of his best game ever with Juve

Emo 5.5 poor game for his standards IMO,a reason we didnt dominate the game completely,maybe he was tired

Vieira 6 still fighting to come back,he was too calm after the yeloow

DP 5 poor game,he wasnt in his favourite position,he was impressive controling and passing the ball with ease in low speed conditions but the game was too fast for him today

Ibra 6 tried a lot,but again he was very nervous and anxius to proove him self,this time he didnt destroy more than he created,
but his finishing on shoots and passes still needs improovement

trezegoal 7.5 he TrezeGOAL us twice,he was there when needed

neddy 7.5 the man who changed the game IMO,remind me Nedved from the past,he was fast, strong,creative always ready to create,set players or finish a fase

Mutu N/A he showed he could offer more than cap let him

camo N/A he was ok for the quarter he played,that was a bizarre sub
 

Loppan

Senior Member
Jul 13, 2002
2,528
I saw that Buffon was at the stadium, eating snacks and talking to a brunette. Or she tried to flirt with him leaning against a wall :cool: So now we know what he does when Juve is playing :D


About the game: Idiotic of Zlatan to get a red card. Juve did what they had to do and now we're on top of the group again.
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++
The substitutions were also puzzling, what was CRAP thinking ?? Take off DP, when an out of form Zlatan has done little.....put Camo in for 18 minutes, then take him out (he wasnt injured).
I think he likes to see the shock effect on the fans faces after his strange substitutions during the matches...

I won't be surprised if he substituted the goalkeeper by a striker in one of the next matches:confused:

God save Juve from his heroic brilliance!!!
 

ZAF3000

Senior Member
Feb 14, 2005
5,348
Ok guys good match. Expected better.. Never the less good over all..

My points of the game:
1- Starting 11: Good choices. Good starting 11. (4-3-1-2)
2- During the match, Del Piero was trying in the centre of the field since he was playing as an Offensive midfielder. The problem was Trezeguet and mainly ibrahimovic were not moving to open up spaces for him to assist them. Most of his tries ended up in a tackle..
3- Vieira and Emerson also did not helpout in creating the offense by spreading out well.
4- Zambrotta (MOM) he was everything for Juve, offense and deffence. He had few sprints highlighted mostly by the missed chance for trezeguet.
5- Defense were playing well.. All of them.
6- Chiellini has held himself a starting 11 position in my opinion. Very good match for our youngster.
7- Our 1st half formation was very good but the players did not move accordingly.
8- Nedved to replace Del Piero in the 2nd half was not a good call. I would have replaced Ibrahimovic. He seemed not concentrated. He kicked a player without a ball in the first hlaf and was lucky to get away with a yellow. Plus it should've been Mutu. Formation changed to regular 4-4-2
9- Abbiati again was not up to the task and failed to save a simple ball.
10- Mutu was left on the bench for a long time.
11- Trezeguet proved that he is the best finisher in the world got 4 chances scored 2.
12- We still are lacking speed and creativity ...
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
Capello decided to start with a new formation that seems promising however, he put the wrong players in the respective positions.

We started out energetic and fast and soon our habit haunted us and we slowed down the game. For a period in the first half we managed not to make a single pass correct and in addition to that we gave away freekicks, our lethal weak point.

The first half was even and some changes were have to be done in order to get more than one point in the game.

Removing Del Piero from the position he was playing in was probably a wise solution, but removing him totally of the pitch sounded a bit weird. Nedved is the player to play in that role and as soon as he came in, a different team appeared on the pitch, at least for a while. Soon after the energy came, slugginesh came back and Kovac was removed to give way to an off-form, half-injured Camoranesi who added to losing balls and giving away fouls.

Vieira being one of the players that gave away lots of balls in the first half looked sharper in the second and his passes became more effective.

In general, Abiatti is shaky. At every freekick for Bayern, I felt they can put the ball in the net.

The defence was good, in the first half they fouled a bit more than they should have and I rely this to the first time they play as a 3-man defence. It looked a bit crouded back there.

The midfield was good, Vieira as said was not that good and he just improved. Our sides were amazing both Zambrotta and Chiellini did good runs and their crosses were the best passes we did all night. Nedved added a spark to the middle and Mutu later on was a good choice, I would like to see more of him.

The forwards, one cannot but praise Trezeguet, he is big. He is simply the best natural finisher in the world, no doubt about that. Zlatan was good, was frustrated in the first half and just got better and better in the second; however, he is provoked os easily and he reacts to the fouls he recieves in an unprofessional manner. He might have deserved the red card for his behaviour, but he will surely be missed. He does a good job up there.
 

3pac

Alex Del Mexico
May 7, 2004
7,206
++ [ originally posted by RochemBeck ] ++


Nah man I subscribe to the UEFA Action Pass on their website...full match reruns just hours after the match.
how much does that cost? i might look into getting it if its any good
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
first of all,I have to say this again,you guys (Offensive material removed - Mikhail),i think you deserve that name,are really pathetic to celebrate the red card for Zlatan. that proves me once again how gays you are ,and not Juve fans..


Just like I expected,I knew Juventus will come back and win,at least not lose this one.
altough the game was another bad performance again,but we were much better than Bayern, that goal of Bayern wasn't fair for us,very lucky..
Abbiati did the job today,I don't know if we can blame him or the defence for Bayern's goal,it's not important anyway.
Deffense wasn't very solid,as we gave them many oportunities to atack from our right side,but indivdually they did their job..
Midfield was the problem,like usual we played those long balls untill Camoranesi came in and at 60th minute and the midfield was more creative then,it could be better if Bayern never scored that lucky goal.
Atack,Trezeguet showed his worth again,how he is great at finishing.

The bad part:
Chiellini: I am not a fan of this guy,he gave away the ball many time,with stupid long shots,and very harsh fouls,lucky he didn't get the red.we need Zebina back,urgent.I prefer pessotto too instead of Chiellini.
Zambrotta: needs to be carefull with those tackles,like chiellini he could get the red card.I miss the left back Zambrotta.
Emerson:bad performance,he wasn't around much,Vieira did most of the job.
Del piero: bad performance,he lost the ball,bad passes etc..
Zlatan:I like this guy as a player,he has the skills and everything,but he has the worst personality maybe.he could get the red card earlier,when he kicked the opponet's foot when the ball was away, he was lucky with yellow. same for the second yellow,that wasn't nececarry.thanx God that the red was at the end,otherwise we could suffer because of his stupid act.
as a performance,he wasn't that bad,made some nice moves,and wasn't "selfish".

Capello:he should use Mutu from the begining,I don't know if he has personal probs with him.and I didn't understand why he took Camoranesi out? was he injured?:confused: but afterall,we won it,so I won't criticize him much,since we won the 3 points,altough we played slow and boring..
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
++ [ originally posted by RochemBeck ] ++


Hmm plenty of strikers...okay lets see here. One forward who is always fielded by Capello no matter what was sent off tonight...one forward played behind the strikers out of position and was in good form before the match...and one striker is considered our last resort option. There is no reason why Mutu should not be given a role up top...that's where he has always excelled FFS.

I'm not arguing with the logic, however fact is that we are better covered in attack than midfield, especially with wide players.

And even if he does excell up front, what when Zlatan returns from suspension? I dont think Capello will keep both him and Del Piero on the bench. One perhaps, but both no, IMO.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
++ [ originally posted by edpiero ] ++
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played really bad playing i guess..
he wasn't that bad,afterall he just play less than 20 minutes.and he did some nice moves in the center,that was the time when the game warmed up,and came the goal later.

and I don't think he was injured,I mean he didn't show any signs :undecide:
 

ZAF3000

Senior Member
Feb 14, 2005
5,348
My rating:

Abbiati: 4: Not upto the task. Failed to save an easy FK.
Kovac: 6: Good game. Not the best, but good game
Thuram: 6 same as Kovac.
Cannavaro: 7: Fabio.. enough said
Chielini: 7 very good game. looked focused and did alot of work. Needs to improve his corses though.
Zambrotta: 8.5 .. Man of the Match. Did everything right. If the team was playing as Zambrotta was we would've won 6-0.
Vieira: 6: Didn't look sharp, his only highlight was the fantastic assist to trezeguet. Otherwise he would've got less
Emerson: 6.5 : Very strong in the midfield.
Del Piero: 6: An average game, not fantastic. Only played for 45 min, tried to move the midfield but his team mates did not want to spread well.
Ibrahimovic: 4.5. Still out of focus. Delays the ball. Foolish Red card. Was lucky not to get sent off early in the match.
Trezeguet: 7.5: Very good match. Showed his worth.
Nedved: 6: Started in Del Piero's position, Capello then drifted him to the left where his work was limited. Caused some problems.
Camoranesi: 5: was obvious that he was not on the right mentality. It was right to sub him in less than 20 min but I think it was wrong for him to enter in the first place.
Mutu: 5.5: Not his fault that he got this rate. He only played for a little while. I am 100% sure that he would've got atleast 6.5 if he started from the beginning of the 2nd half.

Capello: 6: Started well with a good formation. Substitutions were not very good. Taking off Del Piero was wrong. Keeping Zlatan was wrong. Not playing Mutu earlier wrong. My opinion in HT Zlatan out mutu in. Mutu plays DP's role and DP move's forward to Zlatan's place. Nevertheless we won. He dservse 6.
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
++ [ originally posted by Cronios ] ++
be fair Zlatan was ok today comparing with the standards he created this year and when Neddy entered the game,
he got even better,the ref gave up many yellow cards too easy,
thats valid for Zlatan too

TBH, I'm not sure the second yellow card waas intentional, altho it did look so.

However, he should have been sent off a few minutes before for that start on... cant remember who it was.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
I didtn saw the game but i just read he whole thread...

abou the Zlatan issue, one thing is for sure.. he needs to be benched sometimes. IMO, Capello have some fault about Zlatan´s sluggish form, as even when he is not playing wel, Cap continue fielding him, when players needs from time to time to be benched to realize that they need to focus/train more.

But for sure, he will be missed because when he is on form, he can be one of our most deadly players... so i hope that xlatan will think about his behaviour and about what is going wrong!.

About the game, of course im very happy for the win.. but above all, im just amazed about trezeguets form!

If this continues like this, he will have the best season ever in juventus!... definitely he is the man in this last games!

forza Trez!
 

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