[CL] JUVENTUS 2-2 Tottenham Hotspur [February 13th 2018] (11 Viewers)

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Monty

Tuz Royalty
May 2, 2017
2,592
Although Spurs have the advantage, some pundits and fans are already looking ahead to the next round.

Juve players and fans should be pissed heading into Wembley. Instead of putting Spurs to the sword by going up 3-0 or 3-1 at HT, now it feels like the overconfidence has swung toward Spurs.

If Juve are men then they better show up and take notice otherwise they deserve to be out.

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Hopefully Costa, Dybala, Higuain start. Should Juve need a goal, Mandzukic or Bernardeschi can come in for whoever Allegri starts at CM with Pjanic and Matuidi.
You aren't a Juve fan, you keep referring to it as 'Juve' and never in terms of 'us' or 'we'. And thats in quite a few of your posts.

Which club are you a fan of?
 

soccerr9

Junior Member
Oct 5, 2015
51
You aren't a Juve fan, you keep referring to it as 'Juve' and never in terms of 'us' or 'we'. And thats in quite a few of your posts.

Which club are you a fan of?
Let me give you a hint. I purposely created an account in order to vent about how Juve threw away a two f$@$^& lead. Here is another one, for the next 20 days my life will be full of Juve related anxiety.

@ Lazio
@ Spurs
Back-to-back to possibly define the season...

PS. I almost never address a team as "we" unless I'm referring to my wife, dog, and cat. My wife refuses to acknowledge Juve-related anxiety as a valid reason to ignore family duties.
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,932
It doesn't work as simple as this, not all players are required to have skills the way you interpret it. Have a look at Real's midfield with Kroos, Modric and Casemiro; one wouldn't say Casemiro has 'skills' although he has for the purpose he has and he brings balance.

One can have quality but not be technically talented as well, some types of players have different purposes.

Having grinta and being tough also can't be learned by everyone.
Casemiro is a defensive midfielder, he doesn't need much technical ability on the ball. Mandzukic is being played on the wing despite lacking a winger's most important characteristics (agility, dibbling, pace, etc).

Our grinta is being placed on the wrong positions.
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
It doesn't work as simple as this, not all players are required to have skills the way you interpret it. Have a look at Real's midfield with Kroos, Modric and Casemiro; one wouldn't say Casemiro has 'skills' although he has for the purpose he has and he brings balance.
Yeah, Casemiro does a good job balancing the Real Madrid midfield. He’s a stereotypical destroyer like Kante or Gattuso. A lot of stamina and good tackling but limited on the ball. We have Matuidi who plays that role.

The problem is that we are literally the only big team in Europe who plays a destroyer on the wing. Wingers are supposed to be the creative force of a team, and we’re playing a target man out wide.

The good thing is that we will probably play Costa and Dybala in the return leg. We will need to put in a 10/10 performance at Wembley. Anything less will see us eliminated.
 

Monty

Tuz Royalty
May 2, 2017
2,592
Let me give you a hint. I purposely created an account in order to vent about how Juve threw away a two f$@$^& lead. Here is another one, for the next 20 days my life will be full of Juve related anxiety.

@ Lazio
@ Spurs
Back-to-back to possibly define the season...

PS. I almost never address a team as "we" unless I'm referring to my wife, dog, and cat. My wife refuses to acknowledge Juve-related anxiety as a valid reason to ignore family duties.
There have been some strange people on this forum, forgive me for being skeptical
 

soccerr9

Junior Member
Oct 5, 2015
51
Casemiro is a defensive midfielder, he doesn't need much technical ability on the ball. Mandzukic is being played on the wing despite lacking a winger's most important characteristics (agility, dibbling, pace, etc).

Our grinta is being placed on the wrong positions.
Mandzukic is really only a winger in the defensive phase or when Juve try to play the ball long. In possession Sandro takes up that position while Mandzu becomes a second CF.

Mandzukic is a great versatile player. His problem is more that he has been run into the ground over the last 2 seasons. He plays every minute. It shows physically especially lately.

That's the troubling thing. Juve have 4 matches in the space of two week and a half before Tottenham. Who knows what condition some of these guys will be in.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,813
This was an uncharacteristic mistake. We don't usually do mistakes like this. If he have a good game we should be able to overcome spurs.
Let me be clear before anything, I 100% agree that we can absolutely beat them if we have a good game. We certainly have enough quality in the side for it.

However, I don't see this as a completely uncharacteristic performance from us these days. Look at the Atalanta game from earlier in the season, look at the first Barcelona game (multiple injuries I know, but we were dominated all the same), and if you go back into previous CL seasons you can easily find similar games where we just seemed to break down, retreat into our shell and give up. I don't think it's that much of an overreaction to perceive us as having some serious issues and being upset over that.
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
Mandzukic is really only a winger in the defensive phase or when Juve try to play the ball long. In possession Sandro takes up that position while Mandzu becomes a second CF.
We don’t need two center forwards though, especially with Dybala on the pitch who is almost a striker himself. We need more bodies in the wide areas so we can stretch and tear teams apart.

Imagine if Sandro was in the form he was in last season, combining with Douglas Costa on that left hand side. Together they would end the career of right backs.

When Real had Marcelo and Asensio on the pitch together yesterday, they tore PSG to shreds on that side.
 
Mar 10, 2009
8,695
May 23, 2013
4,312
You aren't a Juve fan, you keep referring to it as 'Juve' and never in terms of 'us' or 'we'. And thats in quite a few of your posts.

Which club are you a fan of?
Soccerr9 is a Juve fan! I have seen him post on Bigsoccer forum for years. Very good poster actually.

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http://www.skysports.com/football/n...the-dominant-force-in-europe-says-paul-merson

And here we have it, ladies and gentlemen. Former Arsenal Legend :howler: Paul the Terminal Alcoholic Premface English $#@!$#@! sucking off Tottenham's payers one by one. Disgusting and uber biased. This is why we must smash any EPL opposition, and stop embarrassing ourselves.
Honestly out of all the teams we could have choked against it had to be a fucking prem team. I would rather go out against Shakhtar or Basel than a Prem team.
 

SpursBoy

New Member
Dec 12, 2017
25
He's a $#@!sucker like that other $#@! Michael Owen. They love to exaggerate. Barca, Bayern, and Real to fear City? :howler: R u $#@!ing kidding me? Hyperbole at its finest. The first round of knockout games aren't even over yet.
Think they are for Basel and Porto, Spurs had the hardest draw along with Chelsea of all the English teams yet we were the better team on your ground and controlled the game after a suicide first 8 minutes. Think Chelsea may struggle depending if Player power is still going on there as they want their manager out like they did with JM. Think Man U will overcome Seville so that could mean 4 PL teams in last 8, with Possible 1 French team, 1 Italian, 1 German & 1 Spanish.

Now I'd say that shows a power change in Europe. City v Barca will probably be the final if they avoid each other and hate to say it but City will win it. Their crooked money will win and it will be UEFA that need to look at themselves as FFP is a joke for the likes of City, Chelsea, PSG, and even Barca and Real Madrid.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,082
We don’t need two center forwards though, especially with Dybala on the pitch who is almost a striker himself. We need more bodies in the wide areas so we can stretch and tear teams apart.

Imagine if Sandro was in the form he was in last season, combining with Douglas Costa on that left hand side. Together they would end the career of right backs.

When Real had Marcelo and Asensio on the pitch together yesterday, they tore PSG to shreds on that side.
:tup:
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
Think they are for Basel and Porto, Spurs had the hardest draw along with Chelsea of all the English teams yet we were the better team on your ground and controlled the game after a suicide first 8 minutes. Think Chelsea may struggle depending if Player power is still going on there as they want their manager out like they did with JM. Think Man U will overcome Seville so that could mean 4 PL teams in last 8, with Possible 1 French team, 1 Italian, 1 German & 1 Spanish.

Now I'd say that shows a power change in Europe. City v Barca will probably be the final if they avoid each other and hate to say it but City will win it. Their crooked money will win and it will be UEFA that need to look at themselves as FFP is a joke for the likes of City, Chelsea, PSG, and even Barca and Real Madrid.
Again, hyperbole sir. It's not over yet. I actually like Spurs; they're a likable team with decent fans, unlike the plastic clubs and the disgusting red cunts of Manchester.
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
We don’t need two center forwards though, especially with Dybala on the pitch who is almost a striker himself. We need more bodies in the wide areas so we can stretch and tear teams apart.

Imagine if Sandro was in the form he was in last season, combining with Douglas Costa on that left hand side. Together they would end the career of right backs.

When Real had Marcelo and Asensio on the pitch together yesterday, they tore PSG to shreds on that side.
Costa isn't really the combining type though, I don't think he'll ever be really compatible with Sandro, I'm pretty sure a fit and inform Mandžukič gets a lot more out of Sandro than Costa does.
 

BayernFan

Senior Member
Feb 17, 2016
7,123
He's a $#@!sucker like that other $#@! Michael Owen. They love to exaggerate. Barca, Bayern, and Real to fear City? :howler: R u $#@!ing kidding me? Hyperbole at its finest. The first round of knockout games aren't even over yet.
Honestly, dont take that guy serious. I still remember how he talked the Bayern Munich job down, when klopp was linked with a move away from Liverpool for Bayern.

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...gen-klopp-to-swap-liverpool-for-bayern-munich

Since then I just hated this guy. “Do you think Its an appealing job at the moment, Bayern Munich?” :howler:

Like managing one of the giants in European football from day to day lose Its appeal
 

SpursBoy

New Member
Dec 12, 2017
25
Again, hyperbole sir. It's not over yet. I actually like Spurs; they're a likable team with decent fans, unlike the plastic clubs and the disgusting red $#@!s of Manchester.
If you read my other posts you will have seen I said that our tie isn't over, but we will be stronger at home in front of 80,000 of our fans and luckily no Aurier but Trippier who is quicker and doesn't get out of position as much also Alderweireld will be back for Sanchez.

There was a lot of hype in our shit press at the start of the season saying Wembley will cost Spurs a top 4 place this season as it wasn't White Hart Lane where we went unbeaten last season, well after losing to Chelsea there first game we haven't lost since, thrashing or totally outplaying the likes of Liverpool, Real Madrid, Dortmund, Man U, Arsenal.

I am not saying its over but it will be extremely difficult for you there in front of our crowd.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,828
Although Spurs have the advantage, some pundits and fans are already looking ahead to the next round.

Juve players and fans should be pissed heading into Wembley. Instead of putting Spurs to the sword by going up 3-0 or 3-1 at HT, now it feels like the overconfidence has swung toward Spurs.

If Juve are men then they better show up and take notice otherwise they deserve to be out.

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Hopefully Costa, Dybala, Higuain start. Should Juve need a goal, Mandzukic or Bernardeschi can come in for whoever Allegri starts at CM with Pjanic and Matuidi.
Who cares about British pundits, they like to think sucking each other’s cocks makes them longer
 

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