[CL] JUVENTUS 2-2 Bayern [23rd February, 2016] (60 Viewers)

JuveE46

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Dec 6, 2015
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Look at both of the tables and come back here afterwards, OK?
I see the point you are TRYING to make but here is a FACT, your team plays a pressing game which means one thing in BL and a completely different thing in serie A...had Bayern been facing these teams I can assure you lewandowski would NEVER score 5 goals in any match not even against our midtable teams..there is simply no way you can get away with winning by attack-only...there is a reason even nowadays serie A is called school of football, hell even tevez learned a thing or two as have others..more tactics, more organized defences and defineatly more physical league. Be thankful Dortmund is your "rival" and not Napoli or Roma of couple of years ago.
 

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bastos80

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Feb 21, 2016
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I honestly apologize for representing a different opinion which I also explained. Sadly this went into the wrong direction. I suggest we continue discussin the matchup Juve-FCB :)
Guardiola just said that every player travelling to Turin can play and that we'll try something new tomorrow.
 

Knowah

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Jan 28, 2013
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"Argument" is a pretty unfitting word since you've got absolutly nothing to back your "argument" up.
Really?

Messi/Barcelona, 2015. Porto, 2015. Man City, 2014. That's three mind blowing errors by a top 3 cb against non-Bundesliga opponents in the last two iterations of CL, friend.
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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Im not taking anything away from the fact, that Messi fucked him in the ass in that game. But seriously, any centerback would be fucked by Messi when you play that highline stupidity as Pep chosed in that game. It makes every defence looks like shit against players like Messi, Suarez, Neymar and so on if you chose that highline against them.
what does it tell you about the coach if he does it over and over agin?

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The last time we trolled the Turkish kebabs we were left with egg on our faces.
they try to troll us. so it's a good thing right?
 

bastos80

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Feb 21, 2016
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what does it tell you about the coach if he does it over and over agin?

I thought we were discussing about defenders and not about the coach? Why is Boateng to blame for Pep's risky tactics?
I'm not a big fan of Pep myself. Boateng's performance in the WC final against Messi was a pretty good example for what he's able to bring on the pitch in a system that's not so attacking orientated.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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I see the point you are TRYING to make but here is a FACT, your team plays a pressing game which means one thing in BL and a completely different thing in serie A...had Bayern been facing these teams I can assure you lewandowski would NEVER score 5 goals in any match not even against our midtable teams..there is simply no way you can get away with winning by attack-only...there is a reason even nowadays serie A is called school of football, hell even tevez learned a thing or two as have others..more tactics, more organized defences and defineatly more physical league. Be thankful Dortmund is your "rival" and not Napoli or Roma of couple of years ago.
You took me for a Bayern fan? Seriously? :D
 

JuveE46

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Dec 6, 2015
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The weakness of likes of Intermerda and Garcia's Roma don't mean anything in here. Every season (last season being the only exception) we have a strong challenger for the title, while Bayern not winning the BL is never on anybody's mind.
Again, if you guys fail to recognize this then I don't know what to tell you
+1 on that, pride is blinding them though...serie A> BL in all aspects except maybe stadiums and money.
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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what does it tell you about the coach if he does it over and over agin?

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they try to troll us. so it's a good thing right?
I never been a big Guardiola fan. Actually i can´t wait until he´s gone and gone to Manchester Shitty. Yeah he had some games where we played brilliant, but never in the big games in ChL where it counts. I think Carlo´s style is better for Bayern players.
 

gg89

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Dec 15, 2015
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The weakness of likes of Intermerda and Garcia's Roma don't mean anything in here. Every season (last season being the only exception) we have a strong challenger for the title, while Bayern not winning the BL is never on anybody's mind.
Again, if you guys fail to recognize this then I don't know what to tell you
I didn't really come to engage in dumb discussions. I have a lot of respect for your team and was just pointing out that 1. Boateng's role in Bayern is completely diferent than your CBs in Juve / a guy like Godin's in Atletico (and thus you have to be more careful when comparing) and 2. It's very blindsided to claim the Bundesliga is sh!t while Serie A is amazing when you have equivalent supremacy over it (I think the other BuLi teams are better across the board than the other Serie A teams, but not here to discuss that ;)

Really, no disrespect to Juve, I like your team a lot and think many of your players are bonafide legends.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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I didn't really come to engage in dumb discussions. I have a lot of respect for your team and was just pointing out that 1. Boateng's role in Bayern is completely diferent than your CBs in Juve / a guy like Godin's in Atletico (and thus you have to be more careful when comparing) and 2. It's very blindsided to claim the Bundesliga is sh!t while Serie A is amazing when you have equivalent supremacy over it (I think the other BuLi teams are better across the board than the other Serie A teams, but not here to discuss that ;)

Really, no disrespect to Juve, I like your team a lot and think many of your players are bonafide legends.
:tup:

We don't all hate Bayern here, we just hate Pep :D
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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I didn't really come to engage in dumb discussions. I have a lot of respect for your team and was just pointing out that 1. Boateng's role in Bayern is completely diferent than your CBs in Juve / a guy like Godin's in Atletico (and thus you have to be more careful when comparing) and 2. It's very blindsided to claim the Bundesliga is sh!t while Serie A is amazing when you have equivalent supremacy over it (I think the other BuLi teams are better across the board than the other Serie A teams, but not here to discuss that ;)

Really, no disrespect to Juve, I like your team a lot and think many of your players are bonafide legends.
There are simply fewer good teams in Bundesliga than in Serie A, currently and historically. Less consistency at the top besides Bayern.
 

bastos80

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Feb 21, 2016
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JuveE46

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Dec 6, 2015
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Pep style does not fit BM style period, dumb move to bring him there..just like LVG style is veryyyy different from man U style...got to wonder who makes these stupid decisions at that level

No BM hater here BTW, if we go out id rather Bayern win it than those homos in spain
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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I didn't really come to engage in dumb discussions. I have a lot of respect for your team and was just pointing out that 1. Boateng's role in Bayern is completely diferent than your CBs in Juve / a guy like Godin's in Atletico (and thus you have to be more careful when comparing) and 2. It's very blindsided to claim the Bundesliga is sh!t while Serie A is amazing when you have equivalent supremacy over it (I think the other BuLi teams are better across the board than the other Serie A teams, but not here to discuss that ;)

Really, no disrespect to Juve, I like your team a lot and think many of your players are bonafide legends.
:tup:
I did not claim any of those. I just pointed that the gap is bigger in BL than in Serie A, so directly comparing the stats is meaningless. Having said that, it's worth noting that Juve conceded only one goal in 2016.
 

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